NHL.com Trophy Tracker - Hart Trophy

[Edgelord]

Matthews would sure look good in an Oilers uniform with that greasy moustache taking dishes from the homeless looking McDavid....

McDavid sometimes gives me a Canadian version of Deeks from NCIS LA vibe lol

 

[McFlash97]

Lindsay is awarded to the best player this year. I think fellow players will pick Matthews and it won’t even be close

But who knows..We shall see

The best player this season is Connor McDavid.

Best goal scorer is matthews

Notice how I said Goal scorer.

There's an award for that. Rocket Richard.

But he isn't on McDavid league at controlling the game.

Go look at points, assists, percentage of teams offense, 5 on 5 difference

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Right - in this case, Matthews lead the Leafs to their best ever season. Very different narrative.



I mean a goal is definitely worth more in most people's minds than an assist. Not sure 2:1 is the right ratio though.

It's going to be a close vote for sure. Either choice is good - two fantastic seasons.

Best season ever is not really accurate though. Best season since the season became 82 games long and the tiebreaker was introduced is more accurate. Some people are acting like this season points record eclipsed all the great Leaf seasons of the past which is clearly wrong.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Matthews is a lot better defensively.

LMAO

 

[The Grim Reaper]

McDavid likely ends up with 20 more points than Matthews.

I think the race is over.

I wonder how much voters will weigh the difference in games played?

 

[McFlash97]

Matthews is a lot better defensively.

Hence why his terrible 5 on 5 metrics compared to McDavid .... get real. This is a leafs homer narrative

 

[93LEAFS]

That's a good point.

The writers do vote in dumb ways like that.

That's another reason why I think they go Matthews. The narrative rules the day.

This isn't a Leafs factor (which people think might tip the scales), but if there is anything media-bias related he gets way more American coverage. I often have my VPN as showing the United States and you often see headlines on ESPN about him (showing that it isn't showing some biased algorithm I'm getting Canadian tilted headlines).

Either way, the best individual seasons by a Leafs player where I've watched 90% of the games.

 

[Pucklington]

I wonder how much voters will weigh the difference in games played?

Missing games isn't a positive.

 

[kevsh]

McDavid is the best all-around player in the game

That's disputable.

At the very least it will be a close race for the Hart. I say Matthews wins it with McDavid not far behind (#34 gets something like 2/3rds of the first place votes).

 

[Melrose Munch]

Tonight?

next game

 

[Subbanned]

Matthews AINEC

 

[snag]

McDavid sometimes gives me a Canadian version of Deeks from NCIS LA vibe lol

I can see that lol

 

[LastOne2100]

Best season ever is not really accurate though. Best season since the season became 82 games long and the tiebreaker was introduced is more accurate. Some people are acting like this season points record eclipsed all the great Leaf seasons of the past which is clearly wrong.

Fair - their best season since like 1950. Point still holds.

Bottom line is, the same way there is a trophy for the best goal scorer, there is a trophy for the best point getter in the NHL.

I think this season for the Leafs has been markedly more remarkable than the Oilers' season - and for the Hart, I think that matters.

Is that enough to close the point gap? Not sure. Like I said before, either choice is a good choice. Two amazing seasons.

 

[Bank Shot]

Not sure about most but many would i guess. I think secondary assists have way too much impact on Hart Trophy especially when you're a forward. There's Art Ross for the assist hoarders already.

I don't think secondary assists played a big part in Mcdavid's season this year.

Mcdavid has 47 first assists and 28 second assists.

Matthews has 26 first assists and 20 second assists.

The gap between first assists is 21 and the gap between second is 8.

 

[PuckG]

Matthews is a lot better defensively.

The gap defensively is overstated for the purposes of putting Matthews on a pedestal. While he's very good defensively, McDavid is also solid defensively and the gap is not as large as Leaf fans want everyone to believe. McDavid should take the Hart this year, but voters fatigue seems to be very real and the field has done a good job this one season by staying within striking distance of McDavid.

 

[PromisedLand]

Lol. Good one

McDavid is at 122 and will hit 45 goals. Go check out how many players in the last 20 years hit these numbers in the same year. I wouldn't put it past him to hit 125 plus

And I am not even including tonight's game for Matthews

Even stregnth production Matthews has more than a ppg compared to McDavid

 

[Spawn]

Matthews is a lot better defensively.

Yet has some of the worst GA numbers in the league for centerman. That's in spite of having missed 8 games.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Fair - their best season since like 1950. Point still holds.

Bottom line is, the same way there is a trophy for the best goal scorer, there is a trophy for the best point getter in the NHL.

I think this season for the Leafs has been markedly more remarkable than the Oilers' season - and for the Hart, I think that matters.

The NHL season became 82 games in 1995-96.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

And I am not even including tonight's game for Matthews

Even stregnth production Matthews has more than a ppg compared to McDavid

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Damn, I guess gaudreau should win the hart.

Thanks for coming out

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Missing games isn't a positive.

I don't disagree, but let's not pretend that voters use a lot of logic. The 12-13 season, Ovechkin and Crosby both end the season with 56 points. Ovechkin wins the Hart, despite Crosby playing 12 less games. I could see voters wondering whether Matthews could have got to 65 or 70, had he played the same number of games (not that I agree with that line of thought).

Edit: I will note however, that in the 12-13 season, Ovechkin did have a lot more goals than Crosby, so maybe that was a factor, but Matthews also has a lot more goals than McDavid this season.

 

[LastOne2100]

The NHL season became 82 games in 1995-96.

I think you are missing the point? Look at the Leafs records and winning percentage over that time span?

If this season ended in 80 games it would still be their best ever season of an 80 game season.

You have to go very far back to find a season with this high of a winning percentage.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Fair - their best season since like 1950. Point still holds.

Bottom line is, the same way there is a trophy for the best goal scorer, there is a trophy for the best point getter in the NHL.

I think this season for the Leafs has been markedly more remarkable than the Oilers' season - and for the Hart, I think that matters.

Is that enough to close the point gap? Not sure. Like I said before, either choice is a good choice. Two amazing seasons.

The NHL season became 82 games in 1995-1996 and the shootout was introduced in 2005-2006. So I’d say best season since 2004-2005.

 

[McFlash97]

And I am not even including tonight's game for Matthews

Even stregnth production Matthews has more than a ppg compared to McDavid

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Connor McDavid is literally almost 20 points clear of Matthews.

in no world will he win the Hart over McGoat, unless the Leaf media and homers push an agenda to do so.

The rest of the league knows who the MVP is.

 

[Bank Shot]

I don't disagree, but let's not pretend that voters use a lot of logic. The 12-13 season, Ovechkin and Crosby both end the season with 56 points. Ovechkin wins the Hart, despite Crosby playing 12 less games. I could see voters wondering whether Matthews could have got to 65 or 70, had he played the same number of games (not that I agree with that line of thought).

Edit: I will note however, that in the 12-13 season, Ovechkin did have a lot more goals than Crosby, so maybe that was a factor, but Matthews also has a lot more goals than McDavid this season.

Ovechkin had a lot more goals than Sedin in 09/10 and was 3 points behind in the scoring race despite 10 fewer games.

Sedin won the Hart.

The Hart trophy is such a crapshoot.

 

[LastOne2100]

The NHL season became 82 games in 1995-1996 and the shootout was introduced in 2004-2005. So I’d say best season since 2004.

What is this mental gymnastics? Even if you took away the Leaf's 3 shootout wins, and their OT wins and turned them all into ties - this would still be a better season than anything in anywhere close to recent history.