NHL.com Trophy Tracker - Hart Trophy

[The Grim Reaper]

McDavid would have more than 150 points if he played the whole season with a linemate as good as Marner. In fact he would score that much with just a typical oish%.

Lemieux made Rob Brown a 50 goal scorer, why can't McDavid do something similar?

 

[BusQuets]

Giving matthews the hart over mcdavid would be like giving cheechoo the trophy over thornton lol.

Think mcjesus is a lock

Some weird comparisons for Matthews here. Cheechoo, Hull, Bure...
Are Oilers and McDavid fans forgetting that Matthews plays center and is the play driver on his line? Also plays much much better two-way game than McDavid.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Lemieux made Rob Brown a 50 goal scorer, why can't McDavid do something similar?

he made Pat Maroon a 27-goal scorer

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Lemieux made Rob Brown a 50 goal scorer, why can't McDavid do something similar?

Draisaitl has 2 50 goal seasons.

You were saying?

 

[Nathaniel Skywalker]

60 goals and leads the league in takeaways? Mvpapi

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Some weird comparisons for Matthews here. Cheechoo, Hull, Bure...
Are Oilers and McDavid fans forgetting that Matthews plays center and is the play driver on his line? Also plays much much better two-way game than McDavid.

You would think this much better two way play would translate to actual results

 

[Rengorlex]

Some weird comparisons for Matthews here. Cheechoo, Hull, Bure...
Are Oilers and McDavid fans forgetting that Matthews plays center and is the play driver on his line? Also plays much much better two-way game than McDavid.

McDavid is fantastic defensively.

 

[McFlash97]

With no missed games, Matthews is sniffing around 120 right now and at 65 goals+ and the Hart would be his unanimously. But nah, too many missed games. McDavid at 122 now.

Lol. Good one

McDavid is at 122 and will hit 45 goals. Go check out how many players in the last 20 years hit these numbers in the same year. I wouldn't put it past him to hit 125 plus

 

[Apotheosis]

You would think this much better two way play would translate to actual results

You mean like top four in the entire NHL? Nice.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

Draisaitl has 2 50 goal seasons.

You were saying?

I thought McDavid didn't play with talent?

 

[v00d00daddy]

Who cares. Give it to McD.

Matthews is gonna win the Lindsay by a landslide

 

[Apotheosis]

Lol. Good one

McDavid is at 122 and will hit 45 goals. Go check out how many players in the last 20 years hit these numbers in the same year. I wouldn't put it past him to hit 125 plus

It's just basic math homie. McDavid is an absolutely insane player and I agree he wins the Hart this season. He would have lost if Matthews didn't miss so many games in my opinion.

 

[BusQuets]

McDavid is fantastic defensively.

He could be but he isn't. The effort is not there and he cheats too much.

 

[BurnabyJoe7]

I put some extra points for McDavid too. The point still stands. ~15 more goals are worth way more than extra 30 assists. Mostly because of secondaries but even primary assists are worth way less than goals.

You say that likes its a fact. Most would probably disagree.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Who cares. Give it to McD.

Matthews is gonna win the Lindsay by a landslide

nah, players know who the best player is

 

[The Grim Reaper]

McDavid is fantastic defensively.

Source?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

He could be but he isn't. The effort is not there and he cheats too much.

Tell me you don’t watch McDavid without telling me.

It’s 2022, not 2018

 

[Bank Shot]

Tampa never made the playoffs that season. Automatic disqualification for Stamkos based on how they vote.

That's a good point.

The writers do vote in dumb ways like that.

That's another reason why I think they go Matthews. The narrative rules the day.

 

[Rengorlex]

Source?

He has developed a really solid two way game. Not saying that Matthews necessarily can't be better, but it's not by much in any case.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

He has developed a really solid two way game. Not saying that Matthews necessarily can't be better, but it's not by much in any case.

I'm not being confrontational, I'd just like to see the stats that support this claim. Last I heard he was terrible defensively.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

A great night for hockey!
Two entirely deserving Hart winners but in the end I think McDavids huge lead in the Hart is just too big to be ignored.

 

[v00d00daddy]

nah, players know who the best player is

Lindsay is awarded to the best player this year. I think fellow players will pick Matthews and it won’t even be close

But who knows..We shall see

 

[Advanced stats]

In terms of voting, this is really turning into a close close 2 man race I think.

 

[BusQuets]

In terms of voting, this is really turning into a close close 2 man race I think.

I wouldn't mind giving it to Josi.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

We shall see

Matthews is a great scorer

McDavid is the best all-around player in the game