on first glance, bedard is too high, Hischier too low, and switch the Canuck players.
So Caufield and Slafkovksy are worse then Palat, Meier, Mercer, and Bratt?
I'll listen to the people who voted overwhelming for Hischier over Suzuki instead of You
Better two way player?
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It's the only one available and it supports my argument. If you think that it's outdated and wrong then feel free to make a new one.You talking about 2022 poll in 2024?
Then dont use it for your argument. You realize its been 2 seasons and a half since? Thats more than half of these guys' career. And are you comparing a center playing on a number 2 line when all the attention is on Hughe's line to a center whos 2nd is so bad that other teams just plain ignore it, allowing them to concentrate their best defensive pair against him?It's the only one available and it supports my argument. If you think that it's outdated and wrong then feel free to make a new one.
Strange way to spell bobrovskyOf course he did McDavid did shit against Barkov, especially when it counted most. Barkov did what we all expected him to do, which was to be McDavid's cryptonite.
Zibanejad and Bedard I agree. Suzuki IMO is pretty on par with Hischier.Sweet lawd has Bedard gotten overrated. The media need to chill on the hype campaign, the guy who was demoted to 13th forward at the world championships is not the 13th best center in the world. Maybe he's a top 15 offensive center, but he's easily the worst defensive center in the league. And I'm using the term center generously, as he doesn't even really play the position. He constantly cheats for offense and is usually the last man back. He played as a winger last year for all intents and purposes.
Also, Hischier behind Zibanejad, Suzuki, and Bedard is hilarious.
Last 3 yearsZibanejad and Bedard I agree. Suzuki IMO is pretty on par with Hischier.
Have they even found Petey yet?
Again very similar. Suzuki also is on a bottom 5 team. I really don’t think there’s much that separate the two other than quality of support. I do slightly prefer Hischier myself but I don’t think it’s ridiculous if someone thinks Suzuki is better.Last 3 years
Hischier
222gp 79g 207p +27
58 ES goals
152 ES points
54.4% faceoffs
68 penalties drawn vs 18 taken (+50)
Suzuki
246gp 80g 204p -54
49 ES goals
130 ES points
49.8% faceoffs
73 penalties drawn vs 42 taken (+31)
Hischier is a fair amount better offensively (especially at ES) while being an elite shutdown center.
Hischier is exactly where he belongs. NHL.com actually got this one right.Sweet lawd has Bedard gotten overrated. The media need to chill on the hype campaign, the guy who was demoted to 13th forward at the world championships is not the 13th best center in the world. Maybe he's a top 15 offensive center, but he's easily the worst defensive center in the league. And I'm using the term center generously, as he doesn't even really play the position. He constantly cheats for offense and is usually the last man back. He played as a winger last year for all intents and purposes.
Also, Hischier behind Zibanejad, Suzuki, and Bedard is hilarious.
He's not behind those guys lol.Hischier is exactly where he belongs. NHL.com actually got this one right.
You can make a case for Bedard as i think he was overrated in this valuation. But the rest are absolutely ahead of Hischier based on the past year.He's not behind those guys lol.
Dude missed 11 games and was still t-17th in ES scoring among centers while being an elite defensive player. Hard to argue he's any worse than 15th.
How on earth is Zibanejad ahead of Hischier based on last year?You can make a case for Bedard as i think he was overrated in this valuation. But the rest are absolutely ahead of Hischier based on the past year.
Because of his performance in the playoffs. You can't deny how dangerous he was every time he was on the ice. He was a difference maker when it mattered.How on earth is Zibanejad ahead of Hischier based on last year?
Zibanejad had 35 ES points to Hischier's 49, despite playing 9 more games.
Suzuki is better than Hischier. Bedard will be easily.Sweet lawd has Bedard gotten overrated. The media need to chill on the hype campaign, the guy who was demoted to 13th forward at the world championships is not the 13th best center in the world. Maybe he's a top 15 offensive center, but he's easily the worst defensive center in the league. And I'm using the term center generously, as he doesn't even really play the position. He constantly cheats for offense and is usually the last man back. He played as a winger last year for all intents and purposes.
Also, Hischier behind Zibanejad, Suzuki, and Bedard is hilarious.
Like when he went goalless in his last 11 games? Or when he went scoreless in 5 of 6 games in route to being eliminated by the Panthers? Finished the series with 0 goals 2 assists.Because of his performance in the playoffs. You can't deny how dangerous he was every time he was on the ice. He was a difference maker when it mattered.
No he's not lolSuzuki is better than Hischier.
But not yetBedard will be easily.
Yet every Ranger fan in this thread seems to be confused about his inclusion. Perhaps you know better then them.Because of his performance in the playoffs. You can't deny how dangerous he was every time he was on the ice. He was a difference maker when it mattered.
I think you need to get over it. lolLike when he went goalless in his last 11 games? Or when he went scoreless in 5 of 6 games in route to being eliminated by the Panthers? Finished the series with 0 goals 2 assists.
No he's not lol
But not yet
Of course i do.Yet every Ranger fan in this thread seems to be confused about his inclusion. Perhaps you know better then them.
If Suzuki is obviously better, why does Hischier consistently out-produce him with while being the better defensive center?I think you need to get over it. lol
Suzuki obviously ahead of Hischer. I like Zib better than Hischier based on offensive potential but i ca see if you like Hischier better.
But he list is a pretty good one. (except Bedard)