NHL: Around the League 52

[bwanajamba]

That's not the point.

Don't act like Reilly hit Greig for no reason.

Greig brought that upon himself.

Bitch moves like that make me wish there was no instigator rule.



I bet all the players in the league will notice it.

You're missing the point too. Cross checking a guy who isn't even looking at you in the face is a much bigger bitch move than shooting the puck really hard into the empty net. What Greig did was a mild punk move that probably would have gotten him a talking-to from vets in the locker room after the game anyway. Rielly's response is both cowardly and entirely out of proportion.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Yes, they’ll notice that it is really easy to trigger Reilly into getting suspended and to be prepared for cheapshots from the snot.

When was the last time you saw someone take a slap shot into an empty net?

I honestly don't think I've ever seen it before.

Kovalchuk during the wjc comes close.

Rielly isn't that type of player. He was just the 1st leaf to get close enough to give that little rat a slap.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

I can’t say when the last time I saw a slap shot into an empty net, because why on earth would anyone retain any memories of non-goalie empty net shots in their heads? They’re just the finishing touch on the end of a game immediately forgotten otherwise except for adding to a player‘s goals scored total.

Edit: Oh wait, I remember Bedard’s first NHL preseason goal being an empty netter was kind of funny. So that’s one empty netter that I remember, which admittedly wasn’t a slap shot.

 

[Wally1112pac]

I can’t say when the last time I saw a slap shot into an empty net, because why on earth would anyone retain any memories of non-goalie empty net shots their heads? They’re just the finishing touch on the end of a game immediately forgotten otherwise except for adding to a player‘s goals scored total.

Edit: Oh wait, I remember Bedard’s first NHL preseason goal being an empty netter was kind of funny. So that’s one.

You know exactly what I'm talking about...

Of course no one retains memories of empty net goals.

People do retain memories of an empty net goal being scored the way Greig did.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

You know exactly what I'm talking about...

Of course no one retains memories of empty net goals.

People do retain memories of an empty net goal being scored the way Greig did.

Real talk, I absolutely guarantee you that most people don’t. But apparently some people do, and that’s honestly worrying over such a nothingburger thing.

 

[Wally1112pac]

You're missing the point too. Cross checking a guy who isn't even looking at you in the face is a much bigger bitch move than shooting the puck really hard into the empty net. What Greig did was a mild punk move that probably would have gotten him a talking-to from vets in the locker room after the game anyway. Rielly's response is both cowardly and entirely out of proportion.

Watch it again...

Greig was looking at Rielly. He knew he was coming. He knew what a slap shot into an open net would do. He was just too much of a coward to put his hands up and defend his actions.

Real talk, I absolutely guarantee you that most people don’t. But apparently some people do, and that’s honestly worrying over such a nothingburger thing.

I've never seen an empty net slap shot goal in the NHL. Not in 32 years of watching.

I've always known what the consequences would be if anyone ever did one though. And unfortunately it came true tonight.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Watch it again...

Greig was looking at Rielly. He knew he was coming. He knew what a slap shot into an open net would do. He was just too much of a coward to put his hands up and defend his actions.

what?



He scored, turned around to skate down the ice, and saw Rielly coming a third of a second before getting cross checked in the face.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

And wait, so you mean to tell me that you’ve never seen something happen ever, but you know you’d remember if you saw it if there had been no reaction?

Riiiight….

If there had been no reaction, nobody would be talking about it.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Watch it again...

Greig was looking at Rielly. He knew he was coming. He knew what a slap shot into an open net would do. He was just too much of a coward to put his hands up and defend his actions.



I've never seen an empty net slap shot goal in the NHL. Not in 32 years of watching.

I've always known what the consequences would be if anyone ever did one though. And unfortunately it came true tonight.

Go up and give him a facewash or a little jab in the back of the leg with your stick or some shit. Cross checking a guy in the face and/or neck is an appropriate response? Gimme a f***ing break with this boomer 1970s NHL bullshit. Rielly is a f***ing coward and a rat for doing what he did for something so inconsequential. Less happens to guys who fire a shot on a goalie after the whistle is blown. It was a ridiculous response to a harmless act, and he should deservedly get suspended. And he should also be prepared to answer the bell the next time they play each other, because what he did was nothing short of bush league bullshit, and as dirty as it gets.

 

[Pertti]

Slap shot to the empty net, what is the disrespecting in it. I don't remember anybody doing it but might be because players don't want risk missing the net. I consider more disrespecting to waste time as much as possible.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Go up and give him a facewash or a little jab in the back of the leg with your stick or some shit. Cross checking a guy in the face and/or neck is an appropriate response? Gimme a f***ing break with this boomer 1970s NHL bullshit. Rielly is a f***ing coward and a rat for doing what he did for something so inconsequential. Less happens to guys who fire a shot on a goalie after the whistle is blown. It was a ridiculous response to a harmless act, and he should deservedly get suspended. And he should also be prepared to answer the bell the next time they play each other, because what he did was nothing short of bush league bullshit, and as dirty as it gets.

Bush league play gets a bush league response.

Don't want to get mugged? Don't act like a f***in' clown.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Bush league play gets a bush league response.

Don't want to get mugged? Don't act like a f***in' clown.

A facewash would be getting mugged. A crosscheck to the face/neck is f***ing bush league and has no place in the game. Especially as a response to what happened.

Hossa used to rip a slapshot from the hashmarks on breakaways and shootouts. Literally like 10 feet from the goalie. Should he have gotten crosschecked in the neck and face for it? Thinking that what Rielly did is justified for a slapshot into an empty net is idiotic.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Again, how is shooting hard at any point when the puck is legally in play being a clown? Even if this was the literal first time this has ever happened in the history of the NHL, being upset over it is wholly irrational and comes off as someone just looking for a reason to be upset. And if it was the first time it ever happened, then how is there an unwritten rule against it whereby it’s justified to cross check someone in the face or claim that it is an intrinsically memorable thing?

I mean hell, this is a sport where it is totally acceptable for a pissed off defender to show his disdain for an allowed goal by clumsily slapshotting it out of the net back down ice. That’s okay and this isn’t? C’mon…

 

[Wally1112pac]

Hossa used to rip a slapshot from the hashmarks on breakaways and shootouts. Literally like 10 feet from the goalie. Should he have gotten crosschecked in the neck and face for it? Thinking that what Rielly did is justified for a slapshot into an empty net is idiotic.

That's fine. There's a goalie in the net. Hossa was just using a different technique to score a goal.

A slap shot into an empty net is taking disrespect to a whole new level.

If you don't understand what happens when a team gets blatantly disrespected in pro sports, that's on you. This is nothing new in pro sports. You just haven't figured it out yet.

 

[Wally1112pac]

Again, how is shooting hard at any point when the puck is legally in play being a clown? Even if this was the literal first time this has ever happened in the history of the NHL, being upset over it is wholly irrational and comes off as someone just looking for a reason to be upset. And if it was the first time it ever happened, then how is there an unwritten rule against it whereby it’s justified to cross check someone in the face or claim that it is an intrinsically memorable thing?

I mean hell, this is a sport where it is totally acceptable for a pissed off defender to show his disdain for an allowed goal by clumsily slapshotting it out of the net back down ice. That’s okay and this isn’t? C’mon…

I don't know if you can watch this video, but I'll post it just in case.

Morgan Rielly ejected for levelling Ridly Greig after empty-netter | TSN

Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman Morgan Rielly was ejected in the dying seconds of their 5-3 loss to the Ottawa Senators on Saturday.

www.tsn.ca

Some quotes from the article...

“I thought it was appropriate,” Keefe said, later adding “Our players have the right to react.”

“That was a stupid thing to do there by their guy at the end,” Leafs goalie Martin Jones said of Greig's slapshot."

"You never really know what [Greig] is going to do. I loved it but I’m sure if we were on the other side of that we wouldn’t have liked it either. But I didn’t like the retaliation but I understand their frustration. It’s over with and I guess it was entertaining," Senators forward Josh Norris said."

In the video, Martin Biron said "this is a big no-no". And, "I think Morgan Rielly did what pretty much 99% of what NHL players would do in that situation."

 

[clydesdale line]

Real talk, I absolutely guarantee you that most people don’t. But apparently some people do, and that’s honestly worrying over such a nothingburger thing.

"Hockey culture" is still a thing just like "the unwritten rules" for baseball is still a thing. Whether we like it or not. Now there's things the new guard here is starting to change from the old guard in both sports (celebrations/bat flips after goals/homeruns for example being a big one) but there's still things that are still prevalent in today's game for both sports. You can definitely argue it's stupid but to say it's "nothing to the players" is asinine.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Norris said a sensible take. If you're frustrated by something, fine. Sure. Okay. And of course a Leafs player and coach is going to meathead it up for a teammate. But Biron saying that 99% of NHL players would've done that either a) is admitting that he's mentally fragile hothead or b) saying that 99% of NHLers are mentally fragile hotheads, and if it's the latter than it's even more evidence that a lengthy suspension is needed to get that boneheadedness out of the play.

Again, he shot hard into an empty net. Whoop-de-doo.

And I'm aware of hockey culture, but again baseball unwritten rules are widely mocked and ultimately nothing more than cover for stuff made up on the spot to handwaive away personal pet peeves. The Sox lost a good prospect because their senile manager took offense at a player trying to score. Every year there are brain dead pitchers that think headhunting for an accidental bean is acceptable or for admiring a home run.

Hell, if you are so affronted by that, hockey has a caveman workaround anyway, drop the gloves. Don't crosscheck someone in the face like a gutless puke.

But the DPS is probably only going to give him two games.

 

[DisgruntledHawkFan]

It's a move that warrants a reaction. That reaction isn't a cross check to the head. You want to be a tough guy be a tough guy. Reilly proved he isn't.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

It was a chickenshit thing Reilly did and its an embarrassment to game of hockey to see a player act like that

 

[Wally1112pac]

But Biron saying that 99% of NHL players would've done that either a) is admitting that he's mentally fragile hothead or b) saying that 99% of NHLers are mentally fragile hotheads,

That's your opinion being passed along as fact to the rest of us.

That's not reality.

The whole hockey world knows it was a dick move by Greig and a response was warranted.

Since the "unwritten rules" of baseball have been brought up...

What Greig did is on the same level as a player hitting a home run in the top of the 1st and straddling the 3rd base line all the way to home plate. The next pitch is going into the next batters ribs.

Players know not to straddle the 3rd base line and what will happen if they do. It's just pure disrespect.

 

[BobbyJet]

Hilarious to hear the usual do-gooders come out of the woodwork.

And BTW .... The Sens player should have received an unsportsmanlike penalty. Bush league play that every player in the NHL will hear about. This Greig character will get no respect from peers ... book it.

 

[ChiHawks10]

That's fine. There's a goalie in the net. Hossa was just using a different technique to score a goal.

A slap shot into an empty net is taking disrespect to a whole new level.

If you don't understand what happens when a team gets blatantly disrespected in pro sports, that's on you. This is nothing new in pro sports. You just haven't figured it out yet.

I've played the game for 30+ years at various different high levels. I'm well-aware of hockey culture. What Rielly did was not an acceptable or justified response to what happened. Period.

 

[ChiHawks10]

Hilarious to hear the usual do-gooders come out of the woodwork.

And BTW .... The Sens player should have received an unsportsmanlike penalty. Bush league play that every player in the NHL will hear about. This Greig character will get no respect from peers ... book it.

A do-gooder for thinking that a crosscheck to the face/neck is not an acceptable response to what happened? No. I don't disagree that it was disrespectful. I just can't agree that a crosscheck to someone's neck/face is an acceptable response to that. You could potentially end a guys career and alter his life forever... because... of a slapshot into an empty net.

Like I said... grab him and give him a face wash. Give him a little jab to the back of the leg with your stick. Or even a sly butt-end to the stomach or ribs or something. Hell, see if he'll drop the gloves. I'd be fine with all of that. I'm not ok with a blind-side crosscheck to a guy's neck and face.

I'll even go so far as agree with you that it should have been called as an unsportsmanlike penalty. But the punishment did not fit the crime. It's like saying you should be sentenced to death for speeding in your car. Or have your hands cut off for stealing an apple.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Three people saying something is not the whole world. Admittedly, I overstated when I said nobody cared, but I will caveat that by saying that nobody in their right mind should care.

And yes, I'm a do-gooder because I think *checks notes* cross-checking someone in the face after the play because they took a shot on an empty net is bad...?

Man...

 

[Wally1112pac]

I've played the game for 30+ years at various different high levels. I'm well-aware of hockey culture. What Rielly did was not an acceptable or justified response to what happened. Period.

After hearing your Hossa comparison I honestly don't think you understand what happened last night.