I'm honestly baffled that Sennecke somehow became an acceptable top 5 pick in the last 2 weeks because some people on this board kept hammering his name and a cuckoo like McGagg loves him.
All the serious rankings right now have him outside of the top 10, with the majority having him at #14 or #15.
He's literally closer to a #20 pick than a #5 pick.
Yet, here we are...
Players rise in the eyes of scouts far before they rise in the public view. This has always been the case. Moritz Seider was never seen publically as an option at 5, yet he was for NHL teams and that turned out to be right. No one on this board or anywhere else likes Grant McCagg, bro, come on. We clowned him out of this board a few years ago.
Pronman just had him at 7. Bob's list had 3 NHL TEAMS with him in the top 10 with one in the top 5. He's closer to 5 than a 20th pick.
Sennecke simply is not a top 5 pick and would be one very bad case of "drafting for needs" that everyone used to hate so much.
Shameful.
No, he's the case of when players are on an insane development curve, teams take notice. It's acceptable to take Tij Iginla but it's not for Sennecke, why?
The only answer you would have is that you heard Iginla's name EARLIER so you're not socialized to the idea enough to be comfortable with it. Yet no NHL teams had Iginla in their top 5, but one had Sennecke there, they were split by one spot on Bob's list.
We ALL know that if Lindstrom and/or Demidov are there, they are taking one of them. We also all know that there isn't even a consensus at 2 in this draft, and that there are many names with rankings in and outside of the top 10. This isn't a consensus draft, it will come down to the individual beliefs, qualities, needs and scouting principles of the teams selecting as to who goes where.
If you want a homerun pick go Eiserman. If he hits you get a 55-60 goal guy.
Sennecke is 100% drafting for needs because the team don't want a defenseman or another small guy.
Eiserman is falling.. picking Eiserman at 5 would be an insane pick at this point, and would be for 'needs' the same way because the team don't want a defenseman or another small perimeter shooter.
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It reminds me of the Lekkerimaki story mainly cause there's was a whole lot of hype based on a story about Habs taking him out to dinner but he was not really an option as 1st overall, he was just not the best player available but some put him there none the less because of the noises. Then came the rumors about the Habs calling every teams in the top 10 to get another pick to draft him.....Habs ended up with the 13th with Lekkerimaki available and they traded it for Dach.
I think Sennecke is the same thing. Whole lot of noises based on a story/rumor about Habs liking him and some wants to push him a little bit higher than he should be. Most has him top 10-15. Sure if we look at forward only maybe, but as BPA....there will just be better option at 5.
He was 14th on the last McKenzie report from scouts......
No the Sennecke thing is that he was 5'10 and hit a growth spurt this summer and into training camp where he is now somewhere around 6'3" and has small man skills in a large man's frame. It's on the fact that as he got used to that insane growth spurt, his offensive tools started to take off and his production took off to the point he was the best player in the OHL playoffs until his injury happened.
There will be a better option at 5 because Lindstrom or Demidov should be there, in the chance they are not, then he is the best forward option at that slot. He has the most top 5 votes on Bobs list of any forward not named Celebrini, Lindstrom and Demidov.
Tcchhhhht. The great sages will say you should be ok with this pick and that if you have a problem with it you should have a problem picking Demidov too.
Cope harder, bud.
But apparently, the Habs want Demidov unlike Michkov, but that means he won't be available...
I wouldn't be so sure.
Have to think if they land Guentzel their priority will be to select a defenseman.
It is, the winds are blowing to Levshunov.
Blake Wheeler was also ranked 17th by Central Scouting (NA skaters) before the 2004 NHL Draft and was picked 5th overall.....He has almost 1000 points in his career and is 3rd in scoring for that draft only behind Ovechkin and Malkin.
I'm not saying that this will be the case with Sennecke, but rankings are just rankings and if you like a player and his tools and you think he will be the best players eventually (with what's available), you just go for it.
Having said all that, I still prefer Lindstrom and Demidov.
The team would prefer those two too unless Lindstrom's medicals are a mess.
Wheeler and Scheifele are two great examples.