**NHL 15 thread** Part III

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Jaysfanatic*

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People need to relax the game hasn't been released yet, the game play they showed us probably was maid long ago who knows, we don't know maybe on release day it will be decent.

Typical talk from the EA crowd.
 

Bcap88

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EASHL isn't anywhere near "actual hockey". It's the most unrealistic game mode I've ever seen in a hockey game. Hell, playing against bots on easiest difficulty is closer to real hockey.

You know, I'm hoping that EASHL isn't in the game. All the kids can stay spamming glitch goals on PS3 and 360 while we, adults, play realistic stylish online versus.

Dude online versus is just as bad, Lets not try and fool anyone here
 

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You going to back that up in any way, or just make a blanket statement because you know you don't have a case? EASHL rewards teamwork, rewards cycling, rewards positional defense(you know, things that actually happen in hockey). Versus is all about abusing the terrible AI. You can score nearly every time by skating up the wing, cutting to the middle, and shooting back across the goalie. You know what happens when you try that against a decent Club(or an NHL team)? You get clobbered. EASHL removes the series' biggest weakness, the AI. The defensive AI literally just skates backwards until you get right next to them. You're free to attack. You can only control one player in versus, meaning the 83% of the game is being controlled by EA's super realistic AI. Sooo realistic.

If you're a good player, glitch goals are ridiculously easy to defend in versus. In EASHL unless you play 5v5 (or 6v6) games you can't do anything about it. Also, when you play 5v5 or 6v6 the game is a complete mess. It's like watching a hockey game where all the players are on crack. There's 10x more glitch goals in EASHL than in versus and yes, I've played both modes hell of a lot more than I should have.
 

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It's an upgrade in pretty much every department in regards to it's predecessors so i don't know how it can truly be a disaster lol

Is that so? How many games do you think you will play before you start skipping the very nice introductions that have no bearing on game play, and likely will be extremely repetitive over time?
 

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Also, I don't get why anyone is really bothered about the commentary. Most people probably mute it after a while anyway.
 

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I couldnt give a shiz about the game modes, but I am kind of dissapointed that board play and corner battles still arent in video games.

Its one of the biggest and most important parts of hockey, and still nothing close to realistic or prevalent in this game. Hell, when you use to press 'Y' and pin people and kick at the puck, it was at least a step in the right direction.

Players need to slow down when approaching the boards, not just skate right into them while not hitting them. If two guys are going in at the same time they need to lock up or at least acknowledge each other, and other players need to support and dig with their sticks. It would really help the flow of the game and slow it down to realistic levels.

Maybe then you could play a 20 minute period with a realistic 15 shots or so a team vs. 40 or whatever the hell it is now. Maybe they think it would make the game too boring..idk.

I should also add that while passing looks decent, why is every pass perfect tape to tape? Not even the legendary Red Wings teams could pass like that. Passes need to go into skates, go to the wrong hand, bounce over sticks, players whiff shots, etc. Its so simple but would go a long ways. It would also cut down on cross crease passes and stuff.

Regardless, im trading in Second Son and watch Dogs tomorrrow to get '15. So even if im dissapointed, it was free haha.
 
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Super Cake

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If EASHL is truly not in nhl 15, i really wouldn't be surprised. There is a reason why EA won the worst company of America or something like that.

If it wasn't for EA either making or publishing the games that i do in fact like, i would have stopped buying any games that had to do with EA. If there was a list of all the companies that truly did not give a crap about its fans, EA would surely be #1 on that list.
 

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If you're a good player, glitch goals are ridiculously easy to defend in versus. In EASHL unless you play 5v5 (or 6v6) games you can't do anything about it. Also, when you play 5v5 or 6v6 the game is a complete mess. It's like watching a hockey game where all the players are on crack. There's 10x more glitch goals in EASHL than in versus and yes, I've played both modes hell of a lot more than I should have.

That's simply not true, but there's no sense in arguing with you because you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't do anything about glitch goals in EASHL? :laugh: You serious? You mean, other than have the player(you know, the player that's actually controlled by a human, and not EA's logic) stop it, right? Versus is fun to bad players because it's easy to exploit the AI and score. People that actually want to play something that looks like hockey will actually get a competent club together and play EASHL.
 

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I looked at the features for NHL15 on Wiki, they had links to official sites.

NHL Collision Physics is EA's revamped player physics and allows for secondary collisions, player pileups, and net scrambles. In the next generation, this applies to all 12 players on the ice, meaning that all players are affected by physics. This allows for pileups involving all 12 players. In the previous generation, not all 12 players are affected by physics, and pileups do not involve all of them.[2]

Revamped puck physics leads to authentic and unpredictable puck bounces, rolls and goals in the next generation versions. Everything on the ice controls puck physics.[2] According to NHL 15 producer Sean Ramjagsingh, EA hired a software engineer who worked on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to help make the puck physics as realistic as possible.[3]

New modeling system for players and equipment allows for dynamic cloth technology in the next generation, with the players' clothes moving and affecting physics.[2]

Authentic NHL arenas: For the next generation versions, EA is re-creating all 30 NHL arenas in extensive detail, making each arena unique and enabling larger crowds at NHL games.[2]

NBC Sports Game Day Presentation: As part of a new partnership with NBC Sports, the next generation versions will feature a broadcast package that closely resembles The NHL on NBC broadcasts.[2]

New commentary: Play-by-play announcer Gary Thorne and color commentator Bill Clement have been replaced by NBC Sports commentators Mike "Doc" Emrick and Ed "Eddie" Olczyk, respectively. Additionally, in the next generation versions, TSN analyst Ray Ferraro will give game insights at ice level.[2] Ferraro's proximity to EA's development studios in Vancouver allows EA to call him midseason to update the game with new insights as the 2014–15 season progresses. Emrick and Olczyk were recorded in front of a green screen and have been directly put into the virtual studio in the next generation versions, which eliminates lip syncing.[4][2]

Living crowds: On the next generation, the crowd is more alive with individuals holding up player signs, wearing costumes, and reacting authentically to plays. Over 9,000 new crowd models produces various different types of fans.[2]

In the next generation, Vision AI makes non-human-controlled players more aware of what is happening on the ice, including potential plays.[2]

Group celebration returns to the NHL series for the first time since NHL 11, allowing goalscorers to celebrate with teammates in the next generation versions. New individual player celebrations have also been added.[5]

Ultimate Edition: On June 30, 2014, EA confirmed that buyers can purchase an "Ultimate Edition" of the game for 10 extra dollars than the normal version would cost. Buyers of this exclusive edition will receive special content for the games "Ultimate Team" mode, which is a popular game mode across all of EA's sports games, and will be playable in NHL 15.


What do you notice that keeps popping up?
 

FlaPanthers11

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If you're a good player, glitch goals are ridiculously easy to defend in versus. In EASHL unless you play 5v5 (or 6v6) games you can't do anything about it. Also, when you play 5v5 or 6v6 the game is a complete mess. It's like watching a hockey game where all the players are on crack. There's 10x more glitch goals in EASHL than in versus and yes, I've played both modes hell of a lot more than I should have.

Ah, ********.
 

RW8

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As someone who enjoyed both EASHL and HUT it's disappointing if EASHL won't be in the game but I can live with it.

Has me hoping if they couldn't put the time into EASHL then they really should have made some good improvements to HUT. I skipped playing Madden last year but this years MUT looks interesting, so I'll be looking forward to hearing more about HUT.
 

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The new presentation looks good and I don't think the commentary is that awful, but it does lack enthusiasm. The only compliment I can give the commentary so far, if you can call it that, is that it's refreshing. Yet refreshing is not much of a positive for EA Sports.

The fact that it took a new generation of consoles for new presentation and commentary is embarrassing. Thorne and Clement weren't the problem, it was EA. You can go back to NHL 2K5 to listen to Thorne and Clement, and it's different - the lines aren't as recycled as in EA. It stays fresh for the most part.

I'd like to see 2K Hockey make a comeback. 2K5 and 2K8 were great, and 2K10 (aside from the player models and odd animations) was good - a rebuild that was seeming to go in the right direction.
 

Shrimper

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As someone who enjoyed both EASHL and HUT it's disappointing if EASHL won't be in the game but I can live with it.

Has me hoping if they couldn't put the time into EASHL then they really should have made some good improvements to HUT. I skipped playing Madden last year but this years MUT looks interesting, so I'll be looking forward to hearing more about HUT.

If they had made changes or improvements to HUT they would have said something by now. Or, made it available to play in the demo so that people can discover the new features for themselves.
 

Mynameismark*

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That's simply not true, but there's no sense in arguing with you because you have no idea what you're talking about. You can't do anything about glitch goals in EASHL? :laugh: You serious? You mean, other than have the player(you know, the player that's actually controlled by a human, and not EA's logic) stop it, right? Versus is fun to bad players because it's easy to exploit the AI and score. People that actually want to play something that looks like hockey will actually get a competent club together and play EASHL.

Bad player? I mainly play vs and I;m pretty sure I would stomp you.
 

Swervin81

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Bad player? I mainly play vs and I;m pretty sure I would stomp you.

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Bardown warrior

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Is that so? How many games do you think you will play before you start skipping the very nice introductions that have no bearing on game play, and likely will be extremely repetitive over time?

You're just gonna dodge what was really being debated about and bring up something completely irrelevant? :laugh:

The fact that they've got a new presentation package in the game makes it better then NHL 14 regardless if you choose to enjoy them or not. You've also brought up gameplay, which noticeably looks better, and how can adding new features like puck physics, and more dekes take away anything from the gameplay that was previously played? It makes no sense, and there's no debating whether or not it's an upgrade in the literal sense or not, but rather whether it is marginal and worth the money, which is your opinion.
 

getyourselfsomerest

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Well, aside from that, it is the fact that half of the stuff they've been pushing so much isn't even in PS3/XBOX 360.

Yup. So people will have to pick between having EASHL, or missing 3/4 of the features.

edit; although you did quote wikipedia. maybe whoever edited it is just going by what's on the EA website. and it's definitely not clear on the EA website.
 
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