Next Projected contracts for Nylander and Matthews after 2024

[Leaf Lander]

Nylander 9.2 mil mathews 10 mil

 

[Buds17]

Matthews-up to 14M
Nylander-~9M

 

[as Pure as Evil]

If the front office has any incling that hes not interested in extending july first my hope would be...

Arizona wins bedard

Arizona trades bedard plus for mathews who gets re-signed by the team which includes partial ownership bonus's One last ditch effort to save a,franchise from doom

same goes for nylander but i think he would agree to 8.8 he likes being a rockstar cant be much better then playing hockey in t.o

Marner you never know

 

[Menzinger]

Nylander is easier to look at. There's a fair level of close comparable of wingers. He should be getting around 10-11% of the cap over 8 years. Basically about 8.6-9.5ish mil of the current cap in terms of aav. 1 90+ point season out of 8 NHL years, as amazing as it is doesn't turn a winger into 11 mil territory or even 10+ mil for that matter.

Matthews will likely start with an aav that becomes the highest for a season or so. The harder thing for him to predict will be term. It'll either be 3-4 seasons or for 8. Folks are also letting their imaginations get the best of them when it comes to throwing out numbers like 14-15 mil. There's really nothing to base that on

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Ummmm tkachuk? Jones? LindholmLiterally every player who extends?

The idea is that you can extend the player. 2 years out you can’t.

You can also have him for 750 k for a year. I don’t see coyotes paying him in full SB but a team that wants him could save like 15 million on the first year of his service

Exactly. What did those players bring back? Jones and Lindholm returns were simply bags full of magic beans. The Tkchuk trade turned into a 16 million dollar deal for Calgary. How is that working out for them?
Are you telling me you would prefer to Deal Matthews for one of those deals instead of extending him for 15/16 million? Again what do you really think you are getting from Arizona? Magic beans for a top 10 forward in he league.
lol how do you figure you can pay him 750k for a year? I love the fantasy land that some people live in. He is signing a 8 year deal with as much as possible front loaded.

If the front office has any incling that hes not interested in extending july first my hope would be...

Arizona wins bedard

Arizona trades bedard plus for mathews who gets re-signed by the team which includes partial ownership bonus's One last ditch effort to save a,franchise from doom

same goes for nylander but i think he would agree to 8.8 he likes being a rockstar cant be much better then playing hockey in t.o

Marner you never know

IF Arizona wins Bedard they will not trade him. Just not going to happen.

 

[BobClarkesfrontteeth]

Nylander is easier to look at. There's a fair level of close comparable of wingers. He should be getting around 10-11% of the cap over 8 years. Basically about 8.6-9.5ish mil of the current cap in terms of aav. 1 90+ point season out of 8 NHL years, as amazing as it is doesn't turn a winger into 11 mil territory or even 10+ mil for that matter.

Matthews will likely start with an aav that becomes the highest for a season or so. The harder thing for him to predict will be term. It'll either be 3-4 seasons or for 8. Folks are also letting their imaginations get the best of them when it comes to throwing out numbers like 14-15 mil. There's really nothing to base that on

I agree 10 to 11% of the cap but when they negotiate the contract it will not be this years cap. Cap is going up approx. 10 to 12 % the next three years. that is what his agent will be using as his negotiation point. That is 9.9 million. If Nylander drops a second 90+ point season then 10.5 to 11 million is a possibility.

If the same rules apply to Matthews looking at the percentage he signed a 5 year deal and the cap if he signs another 5 year deal its around 13.5 million with the cap around 90 million. For an 8 year deal he will be looking at 14-15 million to lock in that long.

 

[Throw More Waffles]

I agree 10 to 11% of the cap but when they negotiate the contract it will not be this years cap. Cap is going up approx. 10 to 12 % the next three years. that is what his agent will be using as his negotiation point. That is 9.9 million. If Nylander drops a second 90+ point season then 10.5 to 11 million is a possibility.

If the same rules apply to Matthews looking at the percentage he signed a 5 year deal and the cap if he signs another 5 year deal its around 13.5 million with the cap around 90 million. For an 8 year deal he will be looking at 14-15 million to lock in that long.

The last round of negotiations were based on "the caps going up". It was projected to go up like crazy. And then it didn't.

If I were Dubas I'd slap the shit out of those agents if they try using that argument again.

 

[Racer88]

Nylander is easier to look at. There's a fair level of close comparable of wingers. He should be getting around 10-11% of the cap over 8 years. Basically about 8.6-9.5ish mil of the current cap in terms of aav. 1 90+ point season out of 8 NHL years, as amazing as it is doesn't turn a winger into 11 mil territory or even 10+ mil for that matter.

Matthews will likely start with an aav that becomes the highest for a season or so. The harder thing for him to predict will be term. It'll either be 3-4 seasons or for 8. Folks are also letting their imaginations get the best of them when it comes to throwing out numbers like 14-15 mil. There's really nothing to base that on

The basis would be greed is my guess

 

[Throw More Waffles]

Nylander is easier to look at. There's a fair level of close comparable of wingers. He should be getting around 10-11% of the cap over 8 years. Basically about 8.6-9.5ish mil of the current cap in terms of aav. 1 90+ point season out of 8 NHL years, as amazing as it is doesn't turn a winger into 11 mil territory or even 10+ mil for that matter.

Matthews will likely start with an aav that becomes the highest for a season or so. The harder thing for him to predict will be term. It'll either be 3-4 seasons or for 8. Folks are also letting their imaginations get the best of them when it comes to throwing out numbers like 14-15 mil. There's really nothing to base that on

I don't know....

Winning back to back Richards as well as a Hart trophy put him at McDavid tier. McDavid signed for 12.5 million SIX years ago... and that was him taking less money than he was offered. So I mean... come on. Matthews will be demanding 14-15 million. Full stop.

Matthews being lousy this season may bring his numbers down a bit. But I'm sure the team knows what's going on. If they determine that it won't affect his numbers long term, we're definitely looking at 14-15 million.

 

[CapspaceKiller]

Willy will get 10.5m/per after seeing the Pastrnak contract

Matthews maybe 14m/per

Matthews is a scarier contract given his injury concerns, much better player though

 

[Racer88]

Willy will get 10.5m/per after seeing the Pastrnak contract

Matthews maybe 14m/per

Matthews is a scarier contract given his injury concerns, much better player though

If they don’t go to the conference final they need to trade him before the draft

I don't know....

Winning back to back Richards as well as a Hart trophy put him at McDavid tier. McDavid signed for 12.5 million SIX years ago... and that was him taking less money than he was offered. So I mean... come on. Matthews will be demanding 14-15 million. Full stop.

Matthews being lousy this season may bring his numbers down a bit. But I'm sure the team knows what's going on. If they determine that it won't affect his numbers long term, we're definitely looking at 14-15 million.

That will absolutely kill the ability to build a winner going forward. If he wants that then trade him

 

[CapspaceKiller]

If they don’t go to the conference final they need to trade him before the draft

I'm in agreement with this. If they fail again in the playoffs, a decision needs to be made before the draft. Only 1 of Nylander and Matthews

 

[ToneDog]

McDavid 122 points. Matthews 61 points.

I'm in agreement with this. If they fail again in the playoffs, a decision needs to be made before the draft. Only 1 of Nylander and Matthews

Or both if you can find a GM drooling to overpay.

 

[WillyC]

Matthews is trending for 8.34 x 8

 

[ToneDog]

$12,34m x2 or 3 and revist after JT comes off the books. 8.88x8 for Willie. Final offer.

 

[thewave]

If the front office has any incling that hes not interested in extending july first my hope would be...

Arizona wins bedard

Arizona trades bedard plus for mathews who gets re-signed by the team which includes partial ownership bonus's One last ditch effort to save a,franchise from doom

same goes for nylander but i think he would agree to 8.8 he likes being a rockstar cant be much better then playing hockey in t.o

Marner you never know

Why would Arizona trade Bedard for Matthews? Matthews is paid like a top 2 player in the league right now and he plays like he is top 5-10. He can score goals but his work ethic is already going down the hill.

Nylander who knows.

Marner is another way overpaid player on the roster.

The only decent contract we have as of today is the Nylander one.

 

[ToneDog]

Why would Arizona trade Bedard for Matthews? Matthews is paid like a top 2 player in the league right now and he plays like he is top 5-10. He can score goals but his work ethic is already going down the hill.

Nylander who knows.

Marner is another way overpaid player on the roster.

The only decent contract we have as of today is the Nylander one.

I can see Chicago, Anaheim, SJ, Philly, CBJ trading a Canadian kid for the best American hockey player in the world.

 

[thewave]

I can see Chicago, Anaheim, SJ, Philly, CBJ trading a Canadian kid for the best American hockey player in the world.

Robertson probably tracking to take that distinction. The way Matthews is it's really up in the air.

 

[ToneDog]

Robertson probably tracking to take that distinction. The way Matthews is it's really up in the air.

Matty is a celebrity which you can sell in the US. I would take Tage ahead of Roberton, but Matty is #1 IMO.

 

[hullsy47]

regardless of the speculation, they have to know exactly what the 3 amigos are thinking before the draft ... IF the 2 have not agreed to deals to be signed July 1 this year then they need to be dealt at the draft.
marner needs to be part of the conversation as well, even though he is 2 years out.
neither matthews or nylander can be kept next year without a deal, both have ntc kicking in july 1 as does marner...
if willie and auston buy in to decent deals mitch has to be told this is the ceiling, no one is going higher ... if he balks, he is the one to go.
I want to keep them all, but if they wanna be greedy then i can say buh bye ...
(all this is semi moot if jt were to move on from his last year)
best case scenario would be to win a cup and jt retires before his last year, wont cost him much after his signing bonus is paid july 1 2024, only 900,000 in salary left.

Absolutely

Matthews will get 15+ over 8 years.
Nylander 11 over 8 years.

The cap is expected to go up by 10 million over the next 3 years. Either 1mil 2023, 4.5 mil 2024 4.5 mil 2025. There is talk the NHL may change it to 3mil, 3 mil, and 4mil. look at the percentage of the salary cap each of them signed their last contracts at. the cap is expected to go up 12% the next 3 years. Their agents also know this.
At the end of the day the Leafs timed several contracts to end the same year as Matthews and Willy. They also acquired Murray's contract to have that 4.6 mil to end at the same time as well. They will have lots of cap space to sign both.
Better question is who will the Leafs sign after this season. O'Reilly or Bunting? They have the money for one not both.

Not from the leafs .lol .the next gm already knows the numbers
Has to be some winning going on before u roll up the brinks truck

 

[hullsy47]

Matthews-up to 14M
Nylander-~9M

Lol maybe in arizona

 

[LeafsandSharksfan]

Matty: 13
Nylander: 9.2

Both 7/8 terms deals.

 

[hullsy47]

Why would Arizona trade Bedard for Matthews? Matthews is paid like a top 2 player in the league right now and he plays like he is top 5-10. He can score goals but his work ethic is already going down the hill.

Nylander who knows.

Marner is another way overpaid player on the roster.

The only decent contract we have as of today is the Nylander one.

The new gm knows already trust me there is no reason the leafs don't know if mathews or nylander won't sign an extension
Just like if McDavid wants to come home .
It doesn't change overnight
These kids have agents and parents
These two are not married yet so they may want to sign where they want to raise kids .
I'm assuming only a Stanley cup run this year will save this core

 

[Americanadian]

Assuming all are 8 year contracts:

Nylander 9M (Forsberg is his closest comparable, same cap hit % on a projected 87.5M cap).

Matthews 13M (let him carry over his previous cap hit % on a projected 87.5M cap).

Marner 12M (Pastrnak is his closest comparable, same cap hit% on projected 90M cap)

That's 34M to 3 players. A lot to stomach considering the players will gradually decline on these contracts and by the time the cap goes up enough to add another core piece to the mix these 3 may not be worth their contracts.

 

[666]

Pasta just got $11.25M, Nylander is 7/8 as good so $9.8M.