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doublechili said:
Do we know for certain whether Wilde is absent from camp because the Isles didn't invite him or because he opted against coming? My assumption is that the Isles didn't invite him because they still have the mandatory vaccine policy in effect....
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I think it was already at the draft that Lou was questioned about the policy and he verified that it continues to be the policy and that Wilde is, as such, still in no-man's land.

That was already the statement then.

And weren't there just tweets like over the past few days where Lou was pointing out that Wilde would not attend camp and that they'll be looking for a situation for him for the upcoming season?

doublechili said:
I hope they find a good situation for him and he has a great year and gets back on track. I'd love to have another RHD prospect in the mix. I assume we can all agree that would be a good thing?
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My hope is that if he continues to be in this organization, they get him to another AHL team on loan. I want to see what this guy does in a full season of AHL hockey.
 
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Chapin Landvogt said:
Maybe it's just my surprise that is unwarranted, but yes, definitely, lawyer up.

Of course, that would be fully dependent on how much Wilde feels that his remaining with this organization is inhibiting his options of one day reaching the NHL.

Maybe he doesn't see it that way? Maybe something else is going on within the NHLPA as we speak? After all, the dropping of certain Covid vaccination regulations or recommendations is fairly recent, but Wilde not being part of camp is like two days old.

So, it could be in the works.

Important here is that the vaccination policy was placed in effect after he signed his contract. That policy, which immediately pushes anyone who is morally/medically conflicted by it outside of participation within the organization, now prevents him from going on the career path he signed with this team to go on. And I seriously doubt there is or was a clause in the ELC stating that the player will be required to inject himself with a foreign substance if the team would decide in the course of the contract that he is to do so in order to continue to work within the organization.

Again, maybe he just doesn't care and would like to continue to get paid, wait for the ELC to run out, and then seek out new options. Sure, might be the easiest route to take.

But if you implement such a policy after a contract is signed, then I'm pretty certain your average lawyer can clearly argue that it is grounds for the discontinuation of the contract.

This path of ostracization certainly isn't anything helping Wilde get closer to the NHL or the team foster itself a solid prospect who could come into question for the NHL team one day.

My greatest surprise is that they haven't just severed ways.

The NYI stop paying him and free up a contract slot. Wilde gets to seek out a new spot with another organization that doesn't enforce such a policy.
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I doubt Wilde has any kind of a court case. He hasn't been subject to restraint of trade, harassment, defamation, or even a dirty look from Lou. The COVID policy was negotiated by the NHL and NHLPA. I haven't seen where it's been violated. This situation is along the lines of a teacher being removed from the classroom and assigned to a "rubber room" until his/her case has been disposed of.

I'm certain that if Bode Wilde thought he'd be better off in another organization he could ask the Islanders to buy out his contract.

For the record, I think the Islanders should release Wilde from his contract and move on.
 
MJF said:
I doubt Wilde has any kind of a court case. He hasn't been subject to restraint of trade, harassment, defamation, or even a dirty look from Lou.
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Oh, I bet he got a dirty look from Lou. :sarcasm:

Godfather style.

MJF said:
The COVID policy was negotiated by the NHL and NHLPA. I haven't seen where it's been violated.
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The stance the Islanders took certainly wasn't taken by all teams. The Detroit Red Wings come to mind.

So, the policy Lou made public - and the Isles were the first team in the NHL to make it public; rather emphatically, I felt - couldn't have been one enforced or negotiated by the league and player's association.

I remember the NHL highly recommending such a course of action, possibly even having the same policy for league administration workers, and there was of course Canada's nationwide ruling on the subject of someone who wasn't vaccinated not being allowed to enter the country.

But there were 5 or 6 unvaccinated players dressing up for NHL games last season, so it couldn't have been purely a stance negotiated by the league and NHLPA.

MJF said:
This situation is along the lines of a teacher being removed from the classroom and assigned to a "rubber room" until his/her case has been disposed of.
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At this juncture, that sounds about right.

But I felt the policy itself was more akin to demanding all employees to consume animal meat products and Bode Wilde just happens to be vegan. You would have no grounds to fire that person on that basis, but your policy is your policy, so that employee would be assigned/loaned elsewhere in the field and placed under the guidance of another organization instead.

MJF said:
I'm certain that if Bode Wilde thought he'd be better off in another organization he could ask the Islanders to buy out his contract.

For the record, I think the Islanders should release Wilde from his contract and move on.
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I'd be really curious to find this out one day. We really haven't heard much from him or any representatives one way or another. And I don't think Lou is the type to mention to the press that he offered to buy out the contract - or didn't - but Wilde reneged of his own accord.

As I mentioned in my last post, maybe Wilde's perfectly fine with the situation as is and is just playing out his ELC to see how things are once he's a UFA.

But I'm also thinking the Covid situation is different now than it was last summer, when the policy was much more understandable. So, I'd also be surprised if Wilde is of the same opinion now about his status with the club as he was at this time last summer as well.

After all, it's clearly detrimental to his odds of one day making the NHL.
 
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MJF said:
I doubt Wilde has any kind of a court case. He hasn't been subject to restraint of trade, harassment, defamation, or even a dirty look from Lou. The COVID policy was negotiated by the NHL and NHLPA. I haven't seen where it's been violated. This situation is along the lines of a teacher being removed from the classroom and assigned to a "rubber room" until his/her case has been disposed of.

I'm certain that if Bode Wilde thought he'd be better off in another organization he could ask the Islanders to buy out his contract.

For the record, I think the Islanders should release Wilde from his contract and move on.
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Or the MTA worker who is taken off the job but kept on the books in that rubber room/ closet office
 
JKP said:
Sure, it looks bad now, but they’ll have about $600 to work with by the trade deadline. Not sure what you’re concerned about... ;)
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I hope Ken Holland has the number of a good Zamboni driver/goalie in his contacts. You never know.
 
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leeroggy said:
The secret is to have ten total letters in your full name
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12 letters. Dammit.

SI90 said:
Palms with a big win for pro athletes. Had no idea about this.


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I guess the city of Pittsburgh can just raise the amusement tax or add a facilities fee to ticket prices. If they can't get the money one way they'll get it another way.
 
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SI90 said:
Palms with a big win for pro athletes. Had no idea about this.


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MJF said:
12 letters. Dammit.


I guess the city of Pittsburgh can just raise the amusement tax or add a facilities fee to ticket prices. If they can't get the money one way they'll get it another way.
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Pittsburgh probably should have known better than to build a beautiful ball park, in PNC Park, for "Bottom-Line Bob" Nutting, arguably one of, if not the worst, owner in sports.

I guess the Post-Gazette recently published a report where the team's player payroll was strictly tied to ticket sales and concession stand revenue. The newspaper’s investigation found that all TV revenue, MLB revenue sharing, and profits from concession sales after payroll was kept as net profits for Nutting.

That is a tremendous payout for Nutting, with Fangraphs estimating that the Pirates local TV revenue was ~$44 million in 2020 (maybe a little more now if it escalates - but by keeping it around $40 million, I think that caps the revenue Nutting needs to share with other owners) and MLB revenue sharing is ~$100-110 million per team (I believe 3.3% per team).

Maybe they should try a Jerk Tax instead of a Jock Tax next time.
 
SI90 said:
Already? LoL. He’s getting fired this year

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What a tool. Just stop the practice and review how to high five, cross low, two handed clasp, and end it with the traditional losers lineup at center ice for the going away shake of congratulatory hands.

Get this shit right from the get go and it will all come together in the season and beyond!
 
This is a marriage of convenience. Carey Price is done and Jake Allen is already there. But man oh man I don’t know what the Habs see in Allen.
 
is the game on tonight? I see NBCSN, but I don’t see it list3d when I use their app
 
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