GDT: NEW YORK RANGERS WIN NHL DRAFT LOTTERY

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Bern.. We really do love you bud.. But we’re not trading out of the 1st OA pick.

Keep your proposals realistic. Have fun, but No 1st OA, Lord Enron garbage.

Where did you get me saying trade 1OA? The topic was Nieves.

I am already on record is it would have to be significantly profitable for us AND we would have to get a Dahlin or other franchise guy back.

I have affirmatively said barring that we should keep the pick and use it on LaF as we need scoring/finishers.

so wtf?
who da ef is "Lord Enron"?
 
I think Laf on the team next year is also going to do wonders for Kakko ,as it's going to take a lot of pressure off of him and allow him to fly under the radar a little more-so to speak
Absolutely. Just imagine the excitement over the prospect of Lafreniere, Kakko and Kravtsov all being full-time contributors next season. Wow, the Rangers are going to be fun to watch.
 
Absolutely. Just imagine the excitement over the prospect of Lafreniere, Kakko and Kravtsov all being full-time contributors next season. Wow, the Rangers are going to be fun to watch.
If Gorton can sure up the 2c spot and our left defense,we are going to be a force for many years to come
 
Maybe Lias Andersson decides he DOES want to be part of this up-and-coming NY Rangers franchise... Panarin, Kakko, Kravtsov, Shestyorkin, Chytil, Fox, K. Miller, Barron, a few others I'm forgetting at this moment and all the gems waiting and developing in Europe (Lundkvist, Pajuniemi and co.) ... ok, and Howden too :naughty:.
 
I think a trade is possible, but not probable. I'd put the odds at 20 percent or less.

Lafreniere is number one on the Rangers list. The only way they consider a move is if they two guys in their top 5 and an another prime asset. And even then, I think they face the same challenge New Jersey did last year. If the top guy busts, you have some cover for being wrong. But you can't not take that guy and be wrong.
While I personally would be absolutely in favor of a deal for 3OA, 5OA, plus more, I think this is why it ultimately doesn’t get done.
 
Great day of posting hockey with all. Strange birds come out after midnight.
Yeahp keep taking your pot shots. You dont know when to quit. You have a compulsive disorder with having to go after people here for making suggestions on a message board. Someone send help...


Hey everyone, no one suggest potential roster moves unless you have provided a full breakdown of every single move AND the cap calculations and implications of all moves. Otherwise your ideas could never happen...just like how Panarin was NEVER signing with the Rangers... also this is the same guy who wanted to discredit Igor Eronko when he broke the news about the 24 team playoff format very early on because we (again on a message board) shouldnt have been discussing any scenarios until the words officially left Gary Bettman’s mouth.

What a strange bird.
 
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That said--consider this--

WORST CASE:
(3) Stutzle
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

BEST CASE:
(3) Byfield
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

Let's be honest... say Lafreniere pans out exactly as expected and is a prime 85-100 point scoring winger (think Huberdeau or Pastrnak with less goals)... that would be amazing. But is that really better than a 75-85 offensive dynamo (Stutzle) PLUS another 70-80 wizard (Raymond) OR a 65-70 point, 35 goal sniper (Rossi) OR 50-60 point offensive D (Drysdale)?

AND that's worst case. Say--for whatever reason--Byfield drops to #3...

The Rangers are gifted a future Aleksander Barkov (Byfield) and whichever other high-end toy they choose. My goodness. Let's just say the Rangers were to leave the draft floor with the best cornerstone C and sniper in the draft. Their core would be...

Panarin
Zibanejad
Byfield
Kakko
Rossi
Kravtsov
Chytil
Buchnevich
Kreider

DeAngelo
Fox
Trouba
Miller
Lundkvist
Jones

Shesterkin
Georgiev

That would be absolutely insane. Could you imagine rolling out...

Zibanejad
Byfield
Chytil

... up the middle. Within 2 years that center ice would rival any other in the East and that includes PIT, PHI, TOR.

Then on the wings you roll out...

Panarin
Kakko
Kreider
Rossi
Kravtsov
Buchnevich

You're talking a likely 80-90 point winger in Panarin plus two future 35-goal scorers in Kakko and Rossi. Talk about a well-rounded machine. If the best case scenario were to happen... the Rangers would address two key areas of need (a big, franchise centerman and a high-end, pure, sharpshooter). One thing is for sure--if the Rangers are passing on THAT opportunity--Lafreniere better end up Bobby Hull lol.
 
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I might be wrong, but I think it’d have to be something unrealistic like Tkachuk + 3 which the Sens could never do. You take 3 and 5 and one of those picks are underwhelming ... Lafreniere becomes the next Kane or Matthews and you might be on the unemployment line. It’s much easier/safer to just walk up to the podium and call the name.
They have the late 1st as well in a deep forward draft. They have a lot of assets to move around after they make the 1st selection to get a center. It just reinforced that you take Laf and figure everything else out
 
It's funny because you hear names like Messier, Forsberg, and it's not quite so much a straight style comparison, as much as its a mindset.

Lefreniere has a bulldog mindset. He doesn't want to have a nice run, he wants to complete the run with a championship. He wants to win and he's doing to do what it takes to be the alpha. And if you're another alpha, with the opposing team, he has no problem challenging you for that title on the ice.
My kind of player. This is what we need.
 
I was thinking about what Ottawa might give up and Brady Tkachuk + 3OA. Is that fair?
Such a tough call. But I think I say no to it.

Youve never been gifted a #1 overall. At least not since 1965 when there were way less teams. Knowing how things go in Rangers land, if we trade back out of the #1 things will not go well for us.

Like I said, you take Laf and then try to find a way into the 7-10 range and draft Lundell. Theres your center
 
That said--consider this--

WORST CASE:
(3) Stutzle
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

BEST CASE:
(3) Byfield
(5) Raymond/Rossi/Drysdale

Let's be honest... say Lafreniere pans out exactly as expected and is a prime 85-100 point scoring winger (think Huberdeau or Pastrnak with less goals)... that would be amazing. But is that really better than a 75-85 offensive dynamo (Stutzle) PLUS another 70-80 wizard (Raymond) OR a 65-70 point, 35 goal sniper (Rossi) OR 50-60 point offensive D (Drysdale)?

AND that's worst case. Say--for whatever reason--Byfield drops to #3...

The Rangers are gifted a future Aleksander Barkov (Byfield) and whichever other high-end toy they choose. My goodness. Let's just say the Rangers were to leave the draft floor with the best cornerstone C and sniper in the draft. Their core would be...

Panarin
Zibanejad
Byfield
Kakko
Rossi
Kravtsov
Chytil
Buchnevich
Kreider

DeAngelo
Fox
Trouba
Miller
Lundkvist
Jones

Shesterkin
Georgiev

That would be absolutely insane. Could you imagine rolling out...

Zibanejad
Byfield
Chytil

... up the middle. Within 2 years that center ice would rival any other in the East and that includes PIT, PHI, TOR.

Then on the wings you roll out...

Panarin
Kakko
Kreider
Rossi
Kravtsov
Buchnevich

You're talking a likely 80-90 point winger in Panarin plus two future 35-goal scorers in Kakko and Rossi. Talk about a well-rounded machine. If the best case scenario were to happen... the Rangers would address two key areas of need (a big, franchise centerman and a high-end, pure, sharpshooter). One thing is for sure--if the Rangers are passing on THAT opportunity--Lafreniere better end up Bobby Hull lol.

If I had the #5 and Sanderson was still on board I'd take him over Drysdale. He automatically become the best LD in our organization.
 
Such a tough call. But I think I say no to it.

Youve never been gifted a #1 overall. At least not since 1965 when there were way less teams. Knowing how things go in Rangers land, if we trade back out of the #1 things will not go well for us.

Like I said, you take Laf and then try to find a way into the 7-10 range and draft Lundell. Theres your center

I get it---I might as well say that I would love Brady Tkachuk. He's like a bigger and much better version of Sean Avery.

Byfield is about 9/10 months younger than Lafreniere--a center and a better overall skater. Stutzle is going to be great too. Tkachuk and either of those two would be quite a haul.
 
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You like him better than Miller? I think Miller is going to be a monster and surprise at the NHL level. I truly think he ends up Seth Jones lite... I think he's THAT good.

Yeah I do and I like K'Andre a lot---but K'Andre is not coming off a great year and is still working on learning his position. Sanderson is the best skating defenseman in the draft and a shutdown monster with a bit of an edge. I could easily see him turning into the next Slavin only more physical and really we don't need what Drysdale brings that much--another smallish offensive oriented RD--even if we move DeAngelo--we still have Fox and Lundkvist had a fantastic year in the SHL last year. Sanderson would bring way more of what the team really needs.
 
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