Confirmed with Link: New York Rangers Hire John Davidson as President

[SA16]

You don’t think JD was brought in here because he signed off on the plan that’s already in place?

I think JD was brought in here because Sather retired, he's a former Ranger, a former Rangers commentator, has a great reputation, has a good relationship with Dolan, and has 12 years of experience running an organization. As far as we know they didn't even interview anyone else for the job. It's like Edmonton when they just hired Ken Holland saying basically he was the only man for the job.

 

[Ghost of jas]

He also said for when it makes sense and fits a need. Panarin also fits those.

You can make an argument that he is also for big free agents, it just needs to be looked at a bit.



It was definitely not an anti-big UFA signing statement. But I'm just seeing people quoting the first sentence and calling it a day.

I listened to the whole clip. Again, maybe this is just my interpretation, but not taking shortcuts, to me, is a very specific reference to big ticket free agent signings.

 

[Leetch3]

@1:30

"I want to continue whats been started here and that's to build the rangers to be perennial stanley cup contenders. they're doing it the right way. Jim is a man that wants to win, he wants to do it right and we're on the same page"

not sure how that can be taken as JD doesn't have a plan...he does have a plan and that plan is to be on board with the current plan

he says that the work over the last 2 years 'puts as in a great position to be aggressive as we continue to improve' meaning when the time is right, he did not say he wants to be aggressive now

 

[Ghost of jas]

I think JD was brought in here because Sather retired, he's a former Ranger, a former Rangers commentator, has a great reputation, has a good relationship with Dolan, and has 12 years of experience running an organization. As far as we know they didn't even interview anyone else for the job. It's like Edmonton when they just hired Ken Holland saying basically he was the only man for the job.

I think JD was brought in to 1) replace Sather as the buffer between Dolan and the everyday hockey operations, and 2) to put a trusted face in the public eye while this rebuild takes place. All I keep hearing from the people that matter is that this process is going to take time, patience is needed and there’s going to be a lot of hard work. I’m not twisting myself into knots. Until I see evidence that contradicts what Gorton has been saying, I’m going to continue to take what he and management say at face value.

 

[Tawnos]

I listened to the whole clip. Again, maybe this is just my interpretation, but not taking shortcuts, to me, is a very specific reference to big ticket free agent signings.

Or it’s a very specific reference to not signing UFAs to fill a hole just because you have one. JD was here when they signed Skrudland, after all.

 

[Irishguy42]

he says that the work over the last 2 years 'puts as in a great position to be aggressive as we continue to improve' meaning when the time is right, he did not say he wants to be aggressive now

That quote literally reads as being aggressive "as they're improving", meaning "while they're improving", not aggressive "after improving some more."

So yeah...you can definitely read that as wanting to be aggressive now.



Again, just doesn't seem like this is as definitive as people are making it seem.

 

[haohmaru]

As long as it's not Karlsson aggressive. That would be a hell of a mistake.

 

[Tawnos]

As long as it's not Karlsson aggressive. That would be a hell of a mistake.

98% of us agree.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

That quote literally reads as being aggressive "as they're improving", meaning "while they're improving", not aggressive "after improving some more."

So yeah...you can definitely read that as wanting to be aggressive now.



Again, just doesn't seem like this is as definitive as people are making it seem.

No that quote itself is ambiguous.

But I don't know, reading the tea leaves from whats been thrown out there, I don't think a big UFA splurge is coming as much as some may want it to. Part of it is because I'm pretty sure Panarin is signing in Florida, the other part of it is that I think their big moves are coming via trade.

 

[Ghost of jas]

No that quote itself is ambiguous.

But I don't know, reading the tea leaves from whats been thrown out there, I don't think a big UFA splurge is coming as much as some may want it to. Part of it is because I'm pretty sure Panarin is signing in Florida, the other part of it is that I think their big moves are coming via trade.

My first reaction to when JD mentioned being aggressive, was what we’ve already discussed here, and that’s making an aggressive move up in the first round of the upcoming draft.

 

[Leetch3]

That quote literally reads as being aggressive "as they're improving", meaning "while they're improving", not aggressive "after improving some more."

So yeah...you can definitely read that as wanting to be aggressive now.



Again, just doesn't seem like this is as definitive as people are making it seem.

i never said after improving...he said as they are improving which means there has been improvement. when and where do you think the kids will improve and show that they are ready between now and july 1st when panarin needs to be signed? if we are ready to be aggressive on july 1st than we'd be ready to be aggressive today and thats not what he said

 

[Tawnos]

No that quote itself is ambiguous.

But I don't know, reading the tea leaves from whats been thrown out there, I don't think a big UFA splurge is coming as much as some may want it to. Part of it is because I'm pretty sure Panarin is signing in Florida, the other part of it is that I think their big moves are coming via trade.

And that’s fine if that’s how it turns out. Honestly, I just want them to have better reasons to do or not do big things than ideology.

 

[iamitter]

Must have missed that through all the times he said the word “Patience” today...

Exactly. Now the question is, are they being aggressively patient or patiently aggressive?

 

[NernieBichols]

"It has to make sense. Giving a big contract to a FA when your team isn't ready for it isn't good for him or for you"

Should we post that at the top of the Panarin poll thread AND the Roster Building thread????

I knew people were gonna reach and pin that answer into panarin. Within the context of the answer was still referring to an older free agent with worse and tear and bad ‘knees’ and your quoted part most definitely was speaking towards karlsson. Definitely got a read on his stance via karlsson. Panarin fits more witg the second half of RB’s bolded above

 

[NernieBichols]

“Ithink it has to make sense, it does, if you are going to bring in an older free agent and give him a long-term contract when your team isn’t ready for it it’s not good for him or you. If you can find a way to look at players that are not that old and fit the needs you have and have the character you are looking for, that are not beat up physically, some are, some have been around the block and come in with a bad knee or bad back, you have to do a lot of that research and do something that makes a lot of sense and not get ahead of yourself”
JD

 

[TheBloodyNine]

“Ithink it has to make sense, it does, if you are going to bring in an older free agent and give him a long-term contract when your team isn’t ready for it it’s not good for him or you. If you can find a way to look at players that are not that old and fit the needs you have and have the character you are looking for, that are not beat up physically, some are, some have been around the block and come in with a bad knee or bad back, you have to do a lot of that research and do something that makes a lot of sense and not get ahead of yourself”
JD

Bolded an additional, important part of that quote at the end there.

 

[mas0764]

So we are signing Panarin and not Karlsson. Got it.

 

[LORDE]

The Rangers hired JD five days ago. Do you seriously think in these five days he has come up with a full plan for the future of the organization and announced it at his introductory press conference?

A plan is already in place... he said the build was already taking place. He wasn’t brought here to lay out a plan... he was brought here to assist in the execution of the plan.

He has a philosophy of how to build and it obviously lines up what with Gorton has already started. When he spoke today I heard his philosophy... which I am sure made the flight with him from Columbus.

 

[bobbop]

I’m sure he will review the plan that was discussed at the organizational meetings, ask a lot of questions and offer some insight. He will certainly have a perspective.

And you really don’t know what they are going to tell him.

 

[Stasis]

This is going to be one intense summer. Seeing what happens... so many options, so many questions, so many variables.

 

[Hire Sather]

Karlsson is about as obvious albatross contract waiting to happen as can be.

Don't do it.

I can see the posts in the GDT right now of him being a burden in his own zone. That's next season. 6 years from now? imagine how bad it will be.

 

[trunkslamchest]

move the wolfpack to yonkers! f*** it, move them to white plains or mamaroneck even! if that doesnt work, move em up to Bear Mountain! They got a rink!

seriously though, the biggest take away I got from the JD presser is that JD is not complacent about coming back to the rangers.

yea he is happy about coming home, but he's not f***ing around either.

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

JD is here to win--he helped the Rangers to the finals in 1979, he called the only Stanley Cup season the team has had in 79 years and now he has a chance to be one of the architects of winning another Stanley Cup.

He obviously agrees with the big picture, but he brings a different perspective to the organization. JD is not window dressing for the organization, he will be an active participant in the process, as well as its' public voice.

Welcome back Big Guy!

 

[Ola]

JD mentioned that Gorton has worked really hard rebuilding the team. And he has. The result has been great, he has done a great job. Given how slow the market is -- it has also surely taken an enormous amount of calls and what not to get done.

The problem is that nobody has done anything else, in terms of developing the organization. When we see how mishandled the HFD organization is -- we know its just the tip of the ice-berg. We have no insight whatsoever into how modern other areas of the organization is. But if Gorton haven't taken what Slats has done and improved it and forced it in the right direction -- it will also be mishandled. And while Gorton has done a great job in many areas, he has also had his hands in some odd decisions. It does seem like we rushed some kids, didn't make sure they got the preparation needed before seasons etc. Just for example.

Slats, Schoney, Barnett and co has been asleep at the wheel for ages. Gorton has had his hands full with all the things that are obvious to us, trades, player acquisitions etc. He has received his support from two very green rookies in Ortmayer and Drury. Greely left. Bobrovsky is only on the amature side.

If JD is the man for the job or not remains to be seen. But without any doubt, his job description should include a wider range of responsibilities than just serving as a puppet in front of Dolan.

 

[Stasis]

Karlsson is about as obvious albatross contract waiting to happen as can be.

Don't do it.

I can see the posts in the GDT right now of him being a burden in his own zone. That's next season. 6 years from now? imagine how bad it will be.

His surname doesn't start with S but it contains two of them. That's like a doubleshot warning IMO.

JD mentioned that Gorton has worked really hard rebuilding the team. And he has. The result has been great, he has done a great job. Given how slow the market is -- it has also surely taken an enormous amount of calls and what not to get done...

...If JD is the man for the job or not remains to be seen. But without any doubt, his job description should include a wider range of responsibilities than just serving as a puppet in front of Dolan.

I've been hearing there's a lot of happiness and excitement around this, almost like drafting 2nd and JD coming "home" is like a done deal to greatness. I'm all for that positive attitude but I really hope they're all quickly on the same page and stay the course with some small adjustments due to that 2nd pick. Nothing insane. Dolan is busy with Knicks toys. He'd have been busier with Zion but he still has a lot he can do/wants to do. From what I understand he respects Gorts and JD in the same way he did/does Slats. He'll stay out of it other than wanting us back in the playoffs quickly, particularly if the Knicks aren't doing well.

Tbh I have a bit of concern atm with regards to their plan and the rebuild. I posted some of it but was rebuffed quick enough and shamed for my response. So I'll just say if you think crazy things aren't being discussed and debated right now, things that would make you very upset (most fans), think again. They are. All we can do is HOPE none of them happen. That said, we're much better off with rookies and prospects than ever before so it's not as bad if something does. And being handicapped by G's buyout and the other Def we want to move make it a bit trickier to do too much.

I'll be happy if we draft well (including potential move up) and stay the course. We have a lot coming in and a lot adjusting/growing in year 2. Fix that massive 1/2C hole somehow in the next 2 years and we're looking good, more than likely. Chasing UFAs.... I'm hearing it. Panarin more but still. Hearing things I dislike. Whoever it was who said 0%. I hope so, cause those tires are being kicked. Hope the Habs go all out there.