Post-Game Talk: New York Rangers at Montreal Canadiens |Game 5| 5/27/14

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I have to say I am having a bit of trouble understanding the logic.
The issue is not the lateness.
Stop the 'admiring the pass' BS. That's what the people we call idiots were saying about Stepan.

Like I said, it was definitely a dirty head shot. Just on the broadcast they said it was late like the Prust hit, but I didn't see it like that.
 
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So over this series.
 
The first game of the series convinced us that the Rangers are much better than Montreal.

They're not.

Two evenly matched teams.

Rangers are in a good spot.

A lot of you can never accept a loss at any time. If the Rangers win a game in overtime, the posts are filled with how great they are. A loss in overtime generates endless posts saying they are all pure ****. That's nuts.

So many people forget there is another team on the ice that helps determine the outcome. It's not as simple as Rangers play well, they win. Play bad and they lose.
 
The first game of the series convinced us that the Rangers are much better than Montreal.

They're not.

Two evenly matched teams.

Rangers are in a good spot.

A lot of you can never accept a loss at any time. If the Rangers win a game in overtime, the posts are filled with how great they are. A loss in overtime generates endless posts saying they are all pure ****. That's nuts.

So many people forget there is another team on the ice that helps determine the outcome. It's not as simple as Rangers play well, they win. Play bad and they lose.


Agreed as this is pretty much the theory I espouse to as well. Way to many ledge jumpers in here after a loss and way too many "Cup is ours" types after a W.

I said this before series, both teams are kind of mirror images of one another but if I had to choose between Habs or Boston, this was the opponent I wanted seeing I thought we had a better chance to emerge victorious. It is proving out that way as even with Rangers solid play for most part throughout playoffs, I have severed doubts we could have dealt with the Bruins physicality combined with that skill level of theirs.

Bottom line for me and to your point. We are in a good spot. A very good spot. Any right minded Ranger fan BEFORE series started would have absolutely signed up for a 3-2 lead heading home to what should be a raucous MSG Thursday to close out the series. If anyone thinks we were going to sweep series or even win in 5 was kidding themselves. This is a good hockey team we are facing one with alot of pride. Winning in 6 is no shame and is what I thought in first place. I'm thinking tomorrow there will be some finger nails chewed off but with Hank being Hank again as I anticipate him to be, we should eek out a 2-1 type win and move on the Finals. Can't *** wait. And than we'll get the "pleasure" of reading the Negative Nancy's in the crowd here tell us all how the Kings are going to sweep us which of course would be BS. Anyways, good post and we are on same page.
 
One thing I couldn't stand about last nights game was all the soft plays off the boards and through the middle of the ice. The weak backhanded flips up the boards and through the middle lead to turnover after turnover. Back to basics high and hard off the glass and get more pucks to the net.

Tokarski is aggressive but that doesn't mean every single time we have to wait for that last second pass to tap in an empty netter because he's 4 feet out of the net :sarcasm:

But like everyone else is saying we're still in the driver's seat here and need to take care of business tomorow
 
The first game of the series convinced us that the Rangers are much better than Montreal.

They're not.

Two evenly matched teams.

Rangers are in a good spot.

A lot of you can never accept a loss at any time. If the Rangers win a game in overtime, the posts are filled with how great they are. A loss in overtime generates endless posts saying they are all pure ****. That's nuts.

So many people forget there is another team on the ice that helps determine the outcome. It's not as simple as Rangers play well, they win. Play bad and they lose.

Ya this board is pretty bad. Lot of negativity here. I'm upset about last night but after the come back the Rangers made against the Pens there is no way you can not be positive. The boys definitely have it in them. I'm expecting game 6 to be a really good one for us.
 
Ya this board is pretty bad. Lot of negativity here. I'm upset about last night but after the come back the Rangers made against the Pens there is no way you can not be positive. The boys definitely have it in them. I'm expecting game 6 to be a really good one for us.

I expect game 6 to be the end of this series as well. I can't imagine them laying another egg too much pride in guys like Hank and MSL to let that happen. The unknown is what Montreal gained from that win, but honestly that was expected. I didn't expect them to score so many goals, but I expected them to come out like it was life or death. If they can't match that in game 6 then I think we'll be in full control. If they do match it it may be harder but still doable.
 
I expect game 6 to be the end of this series as well. I can't imagine them laying another egg too much pride in guys like Hank and MSL to let that happen. The unknown is what Montreal gained from that win, but honestly that was expected. I didn't expect them to score so many goals, but I expected them to come out like it was life or death. If they can't match that in game 6 then I think we'll be in full control. If they do match it it may be harder but still doable.


I don't expect this either. However, that doesn't mean we still can't lose the game 2-1 and play very well.

That is what I am most afraid of. It's still one hockey game, and lots of things have to go right in order to get a win.

The other team gets paid too. One lucky bounce and its Game 7 in Montreal.

I am not negative by nature, but this is the reality. It doesn't have to be an extreme stinker of a game to be a loss.

I do think they will get it done tomorrow night. The stage is set, and the Prince of Wales trophy, and Eastern Conference Champions hats/tshirts are ready to be celebrated/worn on ice in front of the home crowd.

Get it done boys. You have to believe.

:rangers
 
I recall very vividly Rangers 0 Flyers 4 Game 6 during opening round and the world was going to end. Anyone remember that? Anyone recall we were going against a goalie Steve Mason who we somehow made look like Dominik Hasek in his prime? Anyone recall how all the doomsdayers said there was no way we were going to win Game 7 even though we were at home? Yeah I thought some of y'all might recall that as well.

Well folks and doomsdayers, we are pretty much in same position except for a couple of key things:

1. This goalie Tokarski is NOT playing as well as Dom Hasek...oops I mean Steve Mason as we kind of have figured him out now.

2. This is not an elimination game for us as god forbid we lost Game 6 which we won't but for chits and giggles say we do, we still would have a Game 7 to play which last I checked, we are pretty good in.

Funny maybe I'm the one who should get a reality check and you Negative Nancy's are the one's who are right but I've never and I do mean never have been more confident in a Ranger team other than the '94 one, than his particular one we are seeing during this playoff run. They have proven to me on too many occasions that you shouldn't doubt them as they have too much pride and are a resilient bunch of guys we got. IMO, this team can beat anyone left in the playoffs including the teams out West.

Anyways, I'll keep drinking the kool-aid and you guys who think we are done, get ready to eat some crow once we advance to the finals.
 
I don't expect this either. However, that doesn't mean we still can't lose the game 2-1 and play very well.

That is what I am most afraid of. It's still one hockey game, and lots of things have to go right in order to get a win.

The other team gets paid too. One lucky bounce and its Game 7 in Montreal.

I am not negative by nature, but this is the reality. It doesn't have to be an extreme stinker of a game to be a loss.

I do think they will get it done tomorrow night. The stage is set, and the Prince of Wales trophy, and Eastern Conference Champions hats/tshirts are ready to be celebrated/worn on ice in front of the home crowd.

Get it done boys. You have to believe.

:rangers

I agree that's my main concern, so far in those types of games we've had the edge. Will it continue? No idea. I hope we can get the bounces and play a solid team game. Our defense was atrocious and the team looked like they lost their composure early on and never regained it. Bobbling passes and losing pucks at their feet etc...
 
good post, chosen...

but that's just how things are these days. We analyze the series down to each minute. Don't think any other fan base is much different. But as you pointed out, I rather be in the Rangers position than Montreal's at this point.
 
I recall very vividly Rangers 0 Flyers 4 Game 6 during opening round and the world was going to end. Anyone remember that? Anyone recall we were going against a goalie Steve Mason who we somehow made look like Dominik Hasek in his prime? Anyone recall how all the doomsdayers said there was no way we were going to win Game 7 even though we were at home? Yeah I thought some of y'all might recall that as well.

Well folks and doomsdayers, we are pretty much in same position except for a couple of key things:

1. This goalie Tokarski is NOT playing as well as Dom Hasek...oops I mean Steve Mason as we kind of have figured him out now.

2. This is not an elimination game for us as god forbid we lost Game 6 which we won't but for chits and giggles say we do, we still would have a Game 7 to play which last I checked, we are pretty good in.

Funny maybe I'm the one who should get a reality check and you Negative Nancy's are the one's who are right but I've never and I do mean never have been more confident in a Ranger team other than the '94 one, than his particular one we are seeing during this playoff run. They have proven to me on too many occasions that you shouldn't doubt them as they have too much pride and are a resilient bunch of guys we got. IMO, this team can beat anyone left in the playoffs including the teams out West.

Anyways, I'll keep drinking the kool-aid and you guys who think we are done, get ready to eat some crow once we advance to the finals.

Tokarski looked ****ing awful for the majority of the game last night. He looked good at the end but the rest was a disaster. 3 goals on 4 shots in the 2nd and he misplayed the Kreider goal so bad he looked like an ECHL goaltender. You know Henrik will bounce back Thursday too.

I'm not concerned at all.
 
I wish this board was around in 1994 when the Rangers lost Games 5 and 6 to Vancouver 6-3 and 4-1.

Let's not turn into pre-2004 Red Sox fans here.
 
This condemnation of negative opinions makes no sense to me. This franchise has given its fans plenty of reason to be negative over the years. Anyone who has hung in there with this team over a significant amount of time has my respect. That being said I think we win tomorrow.
 
I'm in the process of rebuilding myself for tomorrow's game. Today, I'm watching the most painful moments in Rangers history (PHI-NYR Shootout, Henrique goal in Game 6, etc.) Tomorrow, I'm going to watch the greatest moments in Rangers history to get me ready for tomorrow night.
 
I'm in the process of rebuilding myself for tomorrow's game. Today, I'm watching the most painful moments in Rangers history (PHI-NYR Shootout, Henrique goal in Game 6, etc.) Tomorrow, I'm going to watch the greatest moments in Rangers history to get me ready for tomorrow night.

Oh god I buried the trauma of the Philly shoot out deep in my subconscious... Never wanted to think about that game again!

Speaking of self-inflicted wounds, I keep going to the General Boards for some sadistic reason... As cocky as some folks were here it pales I'm comparison to what I've seen. Tons of talk about what the Habs need to do in game 7, assuredness that they solved Hank for good, etc. And that's not including their fans that have declared this series over. They really need to play their best game tomorrow.
 
The series could be over if he covered his man in Overtime of Game 3. He's been on the ice for many goals against. He had a weak defensive play on the 2-1 Montreal goal last night. He is also constantly having his shots blocked by the other team. I can't even remember the last time he got a shot on net during these playoffs. Staal was outstanding defensively during the Pitt series, I'm hoping we see that Staal again soon.

The same can be said for other Rangers......the series would be over if Hank played like Hank last night. And if Hagelin buried his 2on1 layup, and if Kreider didn't take a horrible penalty in the first 20 seconds, and.......I just don't see how Staal is the one "losing" us this series, especially when we're up 3 games to 2. Where is Zuccarello? And Poulliot...where is his contribution to the offense and whats up with all the dopey penalties that are costing us energy and flow? Why is Staal the guy getting singled out? Help me understand.
 
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I'm in the process of rebuilding myself for tomorrow's game. Today, I'm watching the most painful moments in Rangers history (PHI-NYR Shootout, Henrique goal in Game 6, etc.) Tomorrow, I'm going to watch the greatest moments in Rangers history to get me ready for tomorrow night.
The year they missed the playoffs by losing that game to Philly in the last game of the season? That didn't bother me much then because I honestly didn't think they deserved the playoffs that year. They were horrible.

But, yes, this team does cause us a lot of heartache.
 
The first game of the series convinced us that the Rangers are much better than Montreal.

They're not.

Two evenly matched teams.

Rangers are in a good spot.

A lot of you can never accept a loss at any time. If the Rangers win a game in overtime, the posts are filled with how great they are. A loss in overtime generates endless posts saying they are all pure ****. That's nuts.

So many people forget there is another team on the ice that helps determine the outcome. It's not as simple as Rangers play well, they win. Play bad and they lose.

Disagree completely. One game doesn't make the Rangers the better team, and one game doesn't make things even. The Rangers ARE the better team and have been all season. I don't care about records and the scoreboard. The Rangers are deeper, have more experience. and are a far better possession team.

Did you see the stat last night where until last game, Montreal only lead in this series for just over 2 minutes? TWO MINUTES in 4 games they had the lead. Says a lot about who has been driving the play/pace of these games and that the Rangers were always able to find ways to answer back or hold their leads.

The other team is always a factor yes, but in order for the better team to lose the other team needs to either get all the luck/bounces, or the better team has to play bad enough for the lesser team to take advantage. Game 3 was the former, last night was the latter. It happens, but Montreal is not even with the Rangers.
 

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