New Jack Edwards Controversy

[the valiant effort]

I, for one, wish Edwards went full Rome vs Evert

 

[Score08]

This. He handled it man-to-man as it should be. The apology is obligatory, forgiveness is not.

You got it backwards brother!


Also, It takes greater amount of character to forgive someone than it does to apologize to someone.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Are you not familiar with Jack Edwards lmfao

Edwards is a lot of things, for better or worse, but he isn't a weasel. If anything, he seems like a guy who takes his principles to the extreme. When he loves something it's real, when he hates something it's real. He makes it very clear that character matters.

He is the last person I would expect to give anyone a fake apology.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

I love how the play has gone up and down the ice like 5x, and hasn’t addressed a single moment in the game.

He is just obsessed with trying to get this joke out.

Ya the comment alone isn't thaaat bad, it's unprofessional and low hanging, but in combination with him just totally blowing his call of the play for that amount of time including dead air is just being bad at his job...they have to start making him get out his self-fart-huffing before game, doing it on air is no bueno.

 

[v00d00daddy]

Nice of him to apologise.

Maroon can accept it and say thank you. That doesn’t mean he’s saying “it’s ok”

I hope that’s how it went. Edwards needs to know that he did something stupid while not being absolved of it. Hope he learned from this.

Considering the way he sees things and says things… I doubt it.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

Edwards is an idiot and objectively terrible announcer, Maroon shouldn't get so offended by anything he or anyone else says they are just words. Did this really require a big spectacle of an apology? Seems kinda ridiculous to me Edwards just goes into Tampa's locker room for this nonsense.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You got it backwards brother!


Also, It takes greater amount of character to forgive someone than it does to apologize to someone.

But forgiveness is never obligatory. There's a reason we have the stock phrase "you owe him an apology" but nobody has ever said "you owe him forgiveness".

If someone crosses a line, it's on them to acknowledge that fact and take responsibility. If the victim decides to offer forgiveness, great -- that's the best outcome for all involved. But if the victim decides not to offer forgiveness, that's also valid and the two go their separate ways. The offender isn't owed squat, they're the one who was in the wrong.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

You got it backwards brother!


Also, It takes greater amount of character to forgive someone than it does to apologize to someone.

Yet you say forgiveness is mandatory; doing something you see as mandatory doesn't take as much character as doing something optional and not beneficial to yourself, but someone else who may have been wronged.

Forgiveness is something the wronged does for themselves.​

 

[danpantz]

Edwards is an idiot and objectively terrible announcer, Maroon shouldn't get so offended by anything he or anyone else says they are just words. Did this really require a big spectacle of an apology? Seems kinda ridiculous to me Edwards just goes into Tampa's locker room for this nonsense.

“Big spectacle” that you never would have heard about unless a Tampa reporter tweeted about it.

 

[Tanknation]

Agreed. He's still a terrible commentator but seems like a stand up guy.

No, no he is not.

 

[Martin Skoula]

No need to be so hard on Edwards, who among us hasn’t said something they regret when they were that drunk?

 

[Score08]

But forgiveness is never obligatory. There's a reason we have the stock phrase "you owe him an apology" but nobody has ever said "you owe him forgiveness".

If someone crosses a line, it's on them to acknowledge that fact and take responsibility. If the victim decides to offer forgiveness, great -- that's the best outcome for all involved. But if the victim decides not to offer forgiveness, that's also valid and the two go their separate ways. The offender isn't owed squat, they're the one who was in the wrong.

Yet you say forgiveness is mandatory; doing something you see as mandatory doesn't take as much character as doing something optional and not beneficial to yourself, but someone else who may have been wronged.

Forgiveness is something the wronged does for themselves.​

Yet you say forgiveness is mandatory; doing something you see as mandatory doesn't take as much character as doing something optional and not beneficial to yourself, but someone else who may have been wronged.

Forgiveness is something the wronged does for themselves.​

You’re taking it too literal, it’s not mandatory to forgive , I was suggesting it’s just an easier and kinder way to go thru life imo. If an apology is always required before forgiveness is granted, then the people that believe that better hope they’ve never wronged anyone in their lives.

 

[Dr Pepper]

“Big spectacle” that you never would have heard about unless a Tampa reporter tweeted about it.

Exactly.

No one would've heard about this if the Tampa beat writer hadn't snapped that pic and tweeted it out.

I doubt Edwards intended anything close to a "big spectacle" anyway, nor did he have to.

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

Edwards is such a joke

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

“Big spectacle” that you never would have heard about unless a Tampa reporter tweeted about it.

Fair although a Wild writer for the Athletic also picked it up. It shouldn't be a story at all from the Tampa reporter or anyone else. Just silly all around.

 

[PB37]

I, for one, wish Edwards went full Rome vs Evert

Or Bill Burr.

" You ate yourself here, you can walk yourself out of it! "

 

[KnightofBoston]

Edwards is an idiot and objectively terrible announcer, Maroon shouldn't get so offended by anything he or anyone else says they are just words. Did this really require a big spectacle of an apology? Seems kinda ridiculous to me Edwards just goes into Tampa's locker room for this nonsense.

my brother in christ, you won, let 2019 go.

 

[AhosDatsyukian]

my brother in christ, you won, let 2019 go.

what are you even talking about? I'm criticizing Maroon/Tampa as much or moreso than I am Edwards. Edwards is an idiot but why should he have to go through this big deal to apologize to Maroon for a big nothing burger.

 

[bov]

Obviously the talk went less bad than the other tweet suggested.

Definitely the tweet people should refer to instead of the one by Erlendsson.

 

[Tanknation]

my brother in christ, you won, let 2019 go.

It's not just 2019 though. Edwards makes a dumb ass comment about once a week about someone. He is a complete tool that should never be forgiven.

 

[tarheelhockey]

You’re taking it too literal, it’s not mandatory to forgive , I was suggesting it’s just an easier and kinder way to go thru life imo.

I do agree with that. It's the ideal. Of course, sometimes people just aren't there.

I wonder if some of what was portrayed as a lack of forgiveness, was simply a matter of Maroon being confronted with this situation in the middle of the dressing room with people standing around and at least one jackass taking pictures and tweeting about it. From the followup tweet it sounds like they ended up shaking hands and being OK. But one can imagine Maroon being like "WTF" for a good part of the conversation.

 

[Weztex]

Edwards is an idiot and objectively terrible announcer, Maroon shouldn't get so offended by anything he or anyone else says they are just words. Did this really require a big spectacle of an apology? Seems kinda ridiculous to me Edwards just goes into Tampa's locker room for this nonsense.

You're a guy talking on a hockey forum. You are in no position to decide what should or what shouldn't offend people. Nobody knows the background and history of the people they insult or joke about. What may sound to you like a silly banter could as well be the thousandth laugh a the expense of somebody's lifelong struggle. I'm all for making jokes, but if someone would feel hurt by one of mine, he'd have every right to be and I sure hope he'd let me know.

Words are the most powerful of weapon.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Now Maroon is managing to make himself look like a clown in this situation. Give him the silent treatment patty.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Big baby sad??? Awww

He's gonna pull some dirty shit on Pastrnak you can bet on it.

 

[Sheppy]

Jack Edwards should have kicked Maroons ass in the locker room.