New GM Trades and Signings Part 2

[ToneDog]

What about something with Minny, Rossi has had trouble breaking through and they have a lot cap space
Rossi and Hartman For Nylander and Murray
Then sign Dumba on a show me contract

I like your thinking but I'd like to know what Tre's strategy is to add a dman who plays a heavier game. My guess is he needs to move Brodie to make the money work.

Rielly ???
McCabe Klingberg
Gio Lily/Timmons

 

[kb]

What about something with Minny, Rossi has had trouble breaking through and they have a lot cap space
Rossi and Hartman For Nylander and Murray
Then sign Dumba on a show me contract

Look into Rossi's health for 30 seconds. He's got no value. Myocarditis is permanent - SADS risk.

Poor guy.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

Tanev (with retention) to slot beside Rielly

 

[ToneDog]

To be fair, every team will have guys pass through waivers, but not every team has guys picked off of waivers. And certainly not at the rate that happens to the Leafs

Agreed ad that is what she is probably thinking but she should not say Leafs can't pass anybody through, which is a huge exaggeration.

 

[thusk]

are you really serious - maybe you should look at analytics and how the ice tilts.

Its clear there's no point in having this discussion.

And availability is an asset.

If you want to pay a pp specialist 10M its your choice but i just hope it will not be treliving choice...

 

[ToneDog]

Tanev (with retention) to slot beside Rielly

Tanev for Brodie makes our D much tough to play against and the money is close. Not sure why Calgary would make that deal though. Nylander + Brodie for Lindholm and Tanev ??

 

[Fogelhund]

Tanev for Brodie makes our D much tough to play against and the money is close. Not sure why Calgary would make that deal though. Nylander + Brodie for Lindholm and Tanev ??

To Seattle Nylander + Brodie <--> Larsson , Bjorkstrand, Wright + 2024 1st

Seattle is looking for a game breaker

 

[BertCorbeau]

To Seattle Nylander + Brodie <--> Larsson , Bjorkstrand, Wright + 2024 1st

Seattle is looking for a game breaker

I don’t know if Seattle does that.. favours Toronto more. I like the idea though.

 

[Americanadian]

I’d be looking for a combination of Tolvanen, Wright, Borgen and Toronto’s 3rd. If Toronto can get that deal done and sign Borgen for ~2M they save quite a bit of cap space and getting the 3rd back would allow them to offer sheet Bouchard at 5-6Mx5 if they wanted to.

In a world where they did do that (trade for those assets+OS Bouchard) you’d then flip Brodie for whatever you can get and potentially flip Liljegren for a similar aged F (Podkolzin?, Zary?, Drury?). I’d keep Liljegren over Klingberg any day but I’m not sure that would be an option here.

 

[Menzinger]

Ideally with Nylander they can get 1 NHL asset and 1 prime future asset which can then be traded for more flexibility

 

[ToneDog]

I don’t know if Seattle does that.. favours Toronto more. I like the idea though.

Yeah that trade gives us a bigger, tougher Brodie replacement, a 20 goal scorer to replace Nylander, top 5 prospect and a 1st. We probably have to add or they remove their first and make it a 2nd or 3rd??

I’d be looking for a combination of Tolvanen, Wright, Borgen and Toronto’s 3rd. If Toronto can get that deal done and sign Borgen for ~2M they save quite a bit of cap space and getting the 3rd back would allow them to offer sheet Bouchard at 5-6Mx5 if they wanted to.

In a world where they did do that (trade for those assets+OS Bouchard) you’d then flip Brodie for whatever you can get and potentially flip Liljegren for a similar aged F (Podkolzin?, Zary?, Drury?). I’d keep Liljegren over Klingberg any day but I’m not sure that would be an option here.

I like your thinking. I like Bouchard but he is another big soft, younger Klingberg.

 

[andora]

Yeah that trade gives us a bigger, tougher Brodie replacement, a 20 goal scorer to replace Nylander, top 5 prospect and a 1st. We probably have to add or they remove their first and make it a 2nd or 3rd??


I like your thinking. I like Bouchard but he is another big soft, younger Klingberg.

Was going to say same thing on bouchard

No thank you.. he would be like if holl was offensive here and get crucified

Holl was offensive.. what am i talking about..

 

[Americanadian]

I like your thinking. I like Bouchard but he is another big soft, younger Klingberg.

That's a fair assessment. Miller would also be an OS target at the same price. The Leafs would then run:

Rielly-Borgen
Miller-Klingberg
McCabe-Liljegren
Gio

 

[ToneDog]

That's a fair assessment. Miller would also be an OS target at the same price. The Leafs would then run:

Rielly-Borgen
Miller-Klingberg
McCabe-Liljegren
Gio

Yeah I was thinking to OS Miller but thought we don't have the compensation picks. You have obviously given it some thought.

 

[Americanadian]

Yeah I was thinking to OS Miller but thought we don't have the compensation picks. You have obviously given it some thought.

You re-acquire the pick needed from Seattle in a Nylander deal.

 

[The Masters]

If I’m moving Nylander to Calgary I’m hoping it starts with Hanafin. We need better too 4 D.

Starts with Lindholm then we pick from their D core

 

[SprDaVE]

Ideally with Nylander they can get 1 NHL asset and 1 prime future asset which can then be traded for more flexibility

It starts, at the bare minimum of a conversation, with a 1st round pick and a top asset, whether it's a prospect or a young/cost controlled NHLer. The latter varies a lot so it really depends where you go depending on that. So more or less what you mentioned for sure.

1st round picks are so versatile and valuable in the NHL. They can be used to acquire players from rebuilding teams but also used to just build with depending on whatever. People see a 1st round pick as if they are useless for a contending team, but fail to see the bigger picture of what it would accomplish.

You don't have to trade someone like Nylander directly for a need. I feel like that's way too narrow minded and removes a lot of choices of a return. Not to say a direct 1-1 trade can't work out... but right now... I don't see it.

 

[Fogelhund]

I don’t know if Seattle does that.. favours Toronto more. I like the idea though.

Funny... I looked on the main boards... Seattle fans.. nope, Wright isn't on the table... basically not much from their fans perspective.

 

[kb]

Funny... I looked on the main boards... Seattle fans.. nope, Wright isn't on the table... basically not much from their fans perspective.

Then they will reap what they sow.

 

[BertCorbeau]

Funny... I looked on the main boards... Seattle fans.. nope, Wright isn't on the table... basically not much from their fans perspective.

Sounds about right. I mean he is a top 5 pick and top prospect.

If the Leafs could get him and a 1st rounder for Willy, I’m into it.

Then I would turn around to Philly and use a first plus prospects not named Wright or Knies for Konecny

 

[GoodNewfieBoy]

I think Weegar would easily waive from Calgary.

I think a Nylander + Lilegren for Weegar + Zadorov (50% retained) + a good prospect like Zary might make sense. Also would assume an extension on Z

 

[Avilaj07]

To Toronto-
Wright
Borgen
1st Round Pick

To Seattle-
Nylander
Niemela

Then trade,

To Toronto-
Konecny

To Philadelphia-
Seattle 1st Round Pick
Robertson

Knies-Matthews-Konecny
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Wright-Jarnkrok
Reaves-Kampf-Lafferty

Rielly-Borgen
Brodie-Klingberg
McCabe-Liljegren

 

[baton elevated]

Tanev for Brodie makes our D much tough to play against and the money is close. Not sure why Calgary would make that deal though. Nylander + Brodie for Lindholm and Tanev ??

Switch Zadorov with Tanev and it's close

 

[Fogelhund]

On the bright side, as we try to move Murray.

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[Fogelhund]

To Toronto-
Wright
Borgen
1st Round Pick

To Seattle-
Nylander
Niemela

Then trade,

To Toronto-
Konecny

To Philadelphia-
Seattle 1st Round Pick
Robertson

Knies-Matthews-Konecny
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Marner
Domi-Wright-Jarnkrok
Reaves-Kampf-Lafferty

Rielly-Borgen
Brodie-Klingberg
McCabe-Liljegren

Why do we believe that Seattle's #5 D in TOI, will work with as a top pairing with Rielly?