New GM Trades and Signings Part 2

[Ziggdiezan]

If Brodie gets traded to fit in Klingberg I won't be too happy....

 

[ACC1224]

I've been expecting a Brodie trade since Treliving's first day (he said he wanted to remake the D, also only mentioned Bio when asked about former Flames). And a case can be made it could be worth moving on given his contract status.

Problem is I'd be concerned that there's a likely chance his eventual replacement will likely be a worse player. Maybe Treliving will try and entice Dumba

I'd be very surprised if Brodie were traded.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Brodin if you consider 29 young, Braden Schneider on NYR

I know wild was in on some trades with us… so I’m curious to see if he is available.

I feel like rangers being as cap compliant as us, would trade with but never say never

I've been expecting a Brodie trade since Treliving's first day (he said he wanted to remake the D, also only mentioned Bio when asked about former Flames). And a case can be made it could be worth moving on given his contract status.

Problem is I'd be concerned that there's a likely chance his eventual replacement will likely be a worse player. Maybe Treliving will try and entice Dumba

I personally don’t think Brodie will be traded tbh. It would be a very rough for us if we do trade him and put in Dumba instead.

 

[ToneDog]

If Brodie gets traded to fit in Klingberg I won't be too happy....

IMO Klingberg replaces Holl. If Brodie is traded, somebody will be brought in to replace him. If that somebody is Pesche will you not be happy ?

 

[Leaf Rocket]

IMO Klingberg replaces Holl. If Brodie is traded, somebody will be brought in to replace him. If that somebody is Pesche will you not be happy ?

Sure I guess an increase in offense but defensively not much.

Pesche would be nice but I’m not sure if we will bite

 

[ToneDog]

I'd be very surprised if Brodie were traded.

Given his age, cap hit, what Tre said about wanting to change the makeup of the D, I'd say after Nylander, Brodie is the most likely roster player to be traded.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

IMO Klingberg replaces Holl. If Brodie is traded, somebody will be brought in to replace him. If that somebody is Pesche will you not be happy ?

Klingberg and Holl are very very different players but if they are able to get Pesce it would definitely soften the blow of trading Brodie. However at that point I think I'd rather have just gone with Pesce + Brodie vs Pesce + Klingberg

Yeach but they need to be

Yeah but they need to be part of the conversation. Especially when characters merely use goals as a measurement

They definitely should be part of the conversation but not the entire conversation and the limitations should be understood more

 

[Leaf Rocket]

 

[ErnieLeafs]

I would be thrilled to have McDavid, Matthews, Tavares and Kampf as our centres in 3 years.
A 5 year contract for #34 would work well. Cap would be interesting to make it work.

You’d be asking John to take a big cut, which I honestly think he would. You’d have to set up the signing of McDavid by having previously money-hungry guys take nice deals to make it happen. That starts with Matthews this summer, and we see where it goes from there. If the cap rises like it should, we may be able to finesse it

 

[Cor]

IMO Klingberg replaces Holl. If Brodie is traded, somebody will be brought in to replace him. If that somebody is Pesche will you not be happy ?

Pesce and Brodie is a wash at this point

Pesce was terrific a couple season ago, but now the defensive results are the same, (Brodie actually has slightly high xGF/60, and GA/60), Pesce hits less, blocks less shots, takes more penalties, draws less penalties,

Brodie is 6'2, Pesce is 6'3.

 

[Sypher04]

I personally don’t think Brodie will be traded tbh. It would be a very rough for us if we do trade him and put in Dumba instead.

Is Dumba linked to us?

 

[Jimmy Firecracker]

I wish Calgary wasn’t petty about trading with Treliving. Think Zadorov would be a real good add for us.

 

[Notsince67]

Klingberg and Holl are very very different players but if they are able to get Pesce it would definitely soften the blow of trading Brodie. However at that point I think I'd rather have just gone with Pesce + Brodie vs Pesce + Klingberg


They definitely should be part of the conversation but not the entire conversation and the limitations should be understood more

By who exactly. People don't even understand defensive contributions around here. Bergeron would have been a bum.

 

[LeafsOHLRangers98]

I'd be very surprised if Brodie were traded.

Thousands of trade proposals to make our defense "better" involving Nylander out there coupled with a need to move out our two best defensive defensemen (Brodie/Liljegren) to fit players who are bigger / hit more that are much worse defensively.

Somehow we always get worse at forward and defense in all of these scenarios.

We were one of the best teams in the league at limiting slot shots last year, no need to galaxy brain and completely re-shape the D. Just flip Brodie back to the left side.

RiellyLiljegren
Brodie-Klingberg
McCabe-Timmins
Giordano

Once Sammy is signed and Murray is moved see what you can do to add another RHD. Maybe take a flyer on Cal Foote or Simon Benoit, or explore a RHD via trade (Columbus maybe?)

 

[LeafChief]

PSA: Dumba kinda sucks (unless he's taking a pretty massive pay cut).

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Is Dumba linked to us?

Touched base that much is certain. Tre has been linked to him a lot in the past though.

 

[Sypher04]

PSA: Dumba kinda sucks (unless he's taking a pretty massive pay cut).

I would think he’d have to be at this point unless he’s fine going to a team that isn’t any good

I wish Calgary wasn’t petty about trading with Treliving. Think Zadorov would be a real good add for us.

I’d be surprised if Calgary had anything particularly against dealing with Treliving. Where is this comment coming from?

 

[weems]

Andrew Peeke would be an interesting RHD to acquire.
6'3 210lbs player who started a ton in the defensive zone, doesn't turn the puck over much, is physical, blocks shots and had a good goals above expected.
Not sure they'll be looking to trade him now with Babs coaching there but he's someone that in theory could work well on a pairing with Rielly.

 

[Burnie97]

Unless you trade Willie for players on ELCs and/or picks you are not getting much cap relief moving him alone IMO.

It'd be tough getting rid of Nylander and not getting at least one guy back who can put the puck in the net a bit. Not sure what type of package they'd do but I wouldn't be entirely against that type of trade. You could flip some assets from that trade for a d man who has less of a cap hit etc.

Is Dumba linked to us?

I remember seeing somewhere... I think friedman maybe (one of the insiders) said they tried to get him but couldn't make it work.

 

[Mckay]

Dumba would be a whipping boy here in short order.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

By who exactly. People don't even understand defensive contributions around here. Bergeron would have been a bum.

People on these forums and the internet in general use a lot of regression based stats without the knowledge of the limitations of those stats.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

I would think he’d have to be at this point unless he’s fine going to a team that isn’t any good



I’d be surprised if Calgary had anything particularly against dealing with Treliving. Where is this comment coming from?

Calgary Board of Governors is wary of Tre....hence the Draft table crap. Tre being there for a long time knows the ins and out of the franchise and value etc... which intimidates them essentially.

 

[Menzinger]

I'd be very surprised if Brodie were traded.

At the moment it just seems like signing
Klingberg as a Holl replacement appears to be less than what Treliving himself implied/suggested was going to happen to the D. So id wager at least one more larger move will be happening. Either a Gio retirement/replacement or a Brodie/Lily/Timmins trade seems to be what will eventually happen

PSA: Dumba kinda sucks (unless he's taking a pretty massive pay cut).

He can be useful with the right usage based on his time with the Wild. Issue is his biggest impact is offensive more so than defensive and Klingberg seems to have that covered. But I think Tre has been linked to him in the past, so who knows

 

[Leaf Rocket]

At the moment it just seems like signing
Klingberg as a Holl replacement appears to be less than what Treliving himself implied/suggested was going to happen to the D. So id wager at least one more larger move will be happening. Either a Gio retirement/replacement or a Brodie/Lily/Timmins trade seems to be what will eventually happen




He can be useful with the right usage based on his time with the Wild. Issue is his biggest impact is offensive more so than defensive and Klingberg seems to have that covered. But I think Tre has been linked to him in the past, so who knows

It kind of feels likes Tre is betting on Keefe being god tier coach to renew a lot of these signings to become defensively responsible. That... to me is worrisome.

 

[Buds17]

If Brodie gets traded to fit in Klingberg I won't be too happy....

It certainly wouldn't make much sense as they fill vastly different roles.