New GM, New Trades and Signings Thread

[myleafs]

not at all. ROR and Accari for a full year change the dressing room culture and ROR will take over that dressing room and hold people accountable.

Swap out 2 D for better pieces

Sure you are running the so-called core 4 but let's not forget they won a round and should/could have won a 2nd round if not for BOB going all world. So does that mean CAR, BOS should blow it up losing to the Panthers?

JT is gone in 2 years so keep Willy, AM, and Marner but then that 11 mil plus cap increase will allow for a better middle lineup. Yeah sucks running the 4 back but just trading one for the sake of trading one won't guarantee success.

Remember FLA was one PIT point away form not making the playoff so that whole FLA-CGY trade narrative is really just BS as the Flames did better than the Panthers

Could have/should have/only if .....every year

No you don't Josh Anderson is highly over ratef.

Looking at a pretty big drop in offense but gaining 6milly in cap which can be used to help with that. Id rather have Anderson on the team with Marner but somethings got to give if there is any plan to bring in other better than average players.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Could have/should have/only if .....every year


Looking at a pretty big drop in offense but gaining 6milly in cap which can be used to help with that. Id rather have Anderson on the team with Marner but somethings got to give if there is any plan to bring in other better than average players.

Josh Anderson isn't better than average he has the skill to be but not the consistency.

 

[ULF_55]

Dubois is a big guy who plays heavy, can be the #2C and is a jerk on the ice in a Perry/Bennett manner, but, is a better player than either.
I wouldnt trade for him unless he came with a contract though.

He isn't signing to play in Toronto.

 

[thusk]

yea its not the core 4's fault at all who take up 50% of the cap and who dont show up when they are needed the most.

And who step up whe leafs needed it against tampa?

Whatever how much you spend in your core, if your goalie gave up 1 weak goal every game, with all parity in NHL...you will maybe win 1 serie, maybe 2 if youre lucky but you will never win the cup....

Its like starting every game down 1-0. Only 2 of8 game samsonov played, he didn't allowed a weak goal ... and wow 2 win, how surprising it is... and leafs was 2 win 4 lost when he allowed one

Woll allowed a weak one 2 of 3 game, whats happened? They win the game he didn't and lost both game he allowed a weak goal...and i didn't put blame on Woll at all, he didn't play for 3 week step in middle of game and did whats he can... and if leafs dont move for a goalie, in my mind hes the only chance for leafs to make a run...

Watch every team who had a goalie giving 1+ weak goal , no body survive the 2nd round ( Boston, tampa, toronto, edmonton)

 

[ULF_55]

All horrible deals for leafs pls stop posting trade proposals

It isn't about making the team better, it's about another 3-4 years of whining about different players.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

Why are so many posters excited about Dubois? Guy appears to have been a cancer in both the Peg and Columbus. Go to Habville so I can hate him even more.

If ever there was a perfect fit for a locker room it’s this guy.

Seems like a ton of posters have already forgiven their ineptitude so of course the same ones would be excited about bringing another totally selfish douchebag who’s whined his way out of two cities now. I can only imagine how much he’ll insist on next contract, screams Marner and Nylander and the Leafs would bend over as always

 

[Menzinger]

Do we need to unload Muzzins contract if he doesnt play again?

Need? No. But there's a decent chance he'll be offload to a team like Arizona as a paper transaction

 

[Petes]

Need? No. But there's a decent chance he'll be offload to a team like Arizona as a paper transaction

What is the benefit of this if he is going on LTIR anyways?

Is it just that the cap space becomes available to you immediately instead of waiting until camp to put him on?

 

[Dreakmur]

What is the benefit of this if he is going on LTIR anyways?

Is it just that the cap space becomes available to you immediately instead of waiting until camp to put him on?

You can’t move to LTIR until the season starts, so he counts in the cap until then. You don’t need to cap compliant until then, so it’s not a huge benefit.

 

[myleafs]

Need? No. But there's a decent chance he'll be offload to a team like Arizona as a paper transaction

just wondering why though....are we on the hook for anything cap wise? And if not, what would another team get out of it? Sorry just trying to understand.

 

[Cleetus]

You can’t move to LTIR until the season starts, so he counts in the cap until then. You don’t need to cap compliant until then, so it’s not a huge benefit.

yep teams can go over the cap by 10 percent in the off season

 

[TimeZone]

Yep its core 4 fault to not overcome free goal allowed every game and needing to play a perfect defensive game everytime to allow less than 3 goal/game

Its the core fours fault when they're making half of the cap and laying goose eggs en route to getting smoked in 5 games....

not at all. ROR and Accari for a full year change the dressing room culture and ROR will take over that dressing room and hold people accountable.

Swap out 2 D for better pieces

Sure you are running the so-called core 4 but let's not forget they won a round and should/could have won a 2nd round if not for BOB going all world. So does that mean CAR, BOS should blow it up losing to the Panthers?

JT is gone in 2 years so keep Willy, AM, and Marner but then that 11 mil plus cap increase will allow for a better middle lineup. Yeah sucks running the 4 back but just trading one for the sake of trading one won't guarantee success.

Remember FLA was one PIT point away form not making the playoff so that whole FLA-CGY trade narrative is really just BS as the Flames did better than the Panthers

I have zero faith in this team being lead by the same group, I highly doubt this team makes a run for a cup until JT comes off the cap.

I don't even get the impression that Marner even cares in particular.

 

[thusk]

Its the core fours fault when they're making half of the cap and laying goose eggs en route to getting smoked in 5 games....



I have zero faith in this team being lead by the same group, I highly doubt this team makes a run for a cup until JT comes off the cap.

I don't even get the impression that Marner even cares in particular.

And tell me who the past 5 who reach conference final giving up 3+ goal and 1 weak goal 73% of the time?

Edmonton last season is probably the only 1 and they was playing a even worst goalie... and surprise they was swept in conference final

 

[Smif]

I live the the Red Wings' market and I know the team well. Your take is very shallow.

Sakic had 12 career playoff games in his first 7 years. McDavid, Stamkos, Ovechkin, Iginla, Bergeron, Barkov, the list is endless. All stuck with their original team. You are the epitome of what Treliving talked against, making change for the sake of change. We're better with our guys.

 

[Kurtz]

Josh Anderson is an injury-prone 30 point player making $5.5 mil for the next 4 years. I know he looks like prime Tkachuk when he plays against us, but against everyone else he's a grossly overpaid 3rd liner.

Now if MTL wants to swallow 30% of his salary and would take say Robertson in a trade, then go for it. Otherwise, at that cap hit he's a liability.

 

[TimeZone]

And tell me who the past 5 who reach conference final giving up 3+ goal and 1 weak goal 73% of the time?

Edmonton last season is probably the only 1 and they was playing a even worst goalie... and surprise they was swept in conference final

How many have advanced scoring 2 or less goals 100% of the series with their 60 goal scoring 11.6 million dollar superstar laying a goose egg?

 

[jaric1862]

This FA class is weak af but it has a lot of huge defenceman which will help us re-make our blueline

Mayfield, Graves, Soucy, Mikkola, are all guys I'd be after.

 

[Menzinger]

just wondering why though....are we on the hook for anything cap wise? And if not, what would another team get out of it? Sorry just trying to understand.

The Leafs wouldn't be cap impacted if he stays on LTIR but would prefer another team take him because using LTIR prevents the team from accumulating capspace until the trade deadline.

Arizona may have an interest in taking on another teams LTIR player beacuse it would allow them to hit the salary cap floor while having insurance pay off the salary. Basically it helps them be cheapskates

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

What is the benefit of this if he is going on LTIR anyways?

Is it just that the cap space becomes available to you immediately instead of waiting until camp to put him on?

If Muzzin is permanent LTIR they can use that during the offseason, yes.

But, using LTIR makes a huge difference at TDL, which is why some teams.are loathe to do so.

If a team has to use LTIR during the season they can't pro-rate any accumulated cap space for the deadline, because they won't have accrued any.

So any trades would have to be 1:1 cap in:cap out.

If they don't use LTIR and are able to accrue cap space, that cap space can be pro-rated to the contract of the player Roughly it works out to 1/4 of whatever the AAV of the players contract is because TDL takes place roughly 3/4 of the way through the season.

So if a team has $2M on accrued cap space they can trade for an $8M player at TDL.

If they had to use LTIR, like the Leafs did last year, that $8M player can only be traded for if they have $8M in LTIR space available.

The reason for that is because the salary for the incoming player is coming out of the LTIR pool, not the $82.5M salary cap allocation for each team.

Hope that helps.

 

[thusk]

How many have advanced scoring 2 or less goals 100% of the series with their 60 goal scoring 11.6 million dollar superstar laying a goose egg?

Tampa won a cup by winning 7 game that way

Pittsburgh in 2017 won conferemce final scoring with an average of 1,67 during 6 of 7 game of the series and they won the cup

You can win cup scoring less 1-2-3 everygame, you CANT win cup giving up 3 goal everygame

 

[Warden of the North]

f*** no on Dubois. Giant man child who'll start moping in a few years

 

[4thline]

I haven't had a chance to watch the Treliving interviews in full, was the "core 4" ever explicitly defined?

If not, if I was someone whose hockey life didn't revolve around the Leafs and consuming Leaf media, I could quite easily assume that the "core 4" is the both the 4 highest paid players on the team and the 4 wearing letters. Combine that with comments about flyby's and I think one particular trade option firms up.

 

[DarkKnight]

I know it’s tough, but I’d make a real push to sign ROR. He would take over that room this year. It’s possible if we get rid of Dubas’ Murray boat anchor.

 

[Legion34]

I know it’s tough, but I’d make a real push to sign ROR. He would take over that room this year. It’s possible if we get rid of Dubas’ Murray boat anchor.

It’s actually not that tough.

Leafs have like 19 million in space if they buyout Murray wit

6 d 1 goalie and 7 forwards signed.

 

[TMLAM34]

I know it’s tough, but I’d make a real push to sign ROR. He would take over that room this year. It’s possible if we get rid of Dubas’ Murray boat anchor.

With the lack of centers available via trade or free agency, this might have to happen.

ROR seemed to really enjoy playing with Marner. It’ll also still allow you to move Tavares to the wing. I also mentioned multiple times prior to the playoffs starting I’d look into a second line with Marner and O’Reilly together to form a very good defensive line that can do it on both ends of the ice and match up with Tampas top line. O’Reilly’s skating isn’t the best either but it’s definitely better than Tavares’.

I think Nylander is one of the regular/core players that’ll get traded this off-season. This is what I’d try to build/fill in the blanks around.

X - Matthews - X
X - O’Reilly - Marner
Tavares - X - X
X - X - X