vcv
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Still haven't figured this out.
My best guess is the people saying that don't want the GM (or Pat) to get "screwed" on a deal and make other GMs think they can walk all over our GM?
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Still haven't figured this out.
My best guess is the people saying that don't want the GM (or Pat) to get "screwed" on a deal and make other GMs think they can walk all over our GM?
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On the other hand, it buys the GM more time.
If the GM isn't hired until after the trade deadline, he can't be criticized for not doing much and going along with the tank. The longer they wait to hire him, the longer they can tank without fans getting too unruly.
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Not one person would of said Thank God we got something for Briere and Drury if we received a 4th rounder for them. Not one.
The mistake made by the organization was not even contemplating moving those pieces because of ownerships mandate of attempting to make playoffs.
Beerz
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We should not be waiting all season for a GM... I want my new GM to be familiar with our direction and our prospects personally before jumping into the trade deadline or even the draft let alone FA.
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Uh, we were a contender, of course we weren't going to trade our two best players for a 4th rounder. The situations aren't remotely comparable.
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Paxon
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My mistake, I didn't catch up on the thread properly. To be clear though I wouldn't really care if we didn't trade Miller if all we were offered was a 4th rounder, but I can't see it being like that. Either at least one team is genuinely interested in trading for him in which case they'd at least give up a 2nd or no team is interested in bringing in a veteran starter in the middle of this season.
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That is pretty much where im at. Im getting a reasonable asset back for him or I just keep him for the season
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Are saying we can't be mad we lost them for nothing? Or are you saying its crazy posters are saying they should have been traded during the season?
I think (and hope) that to get decent value on Miller management will have to get very creative with conditionals. For instance with St. Louis we will have to take Halak or Elliot back in the deal and probably get a 2nd to go with it. Something like a conditional 1st in 2014 if St. Louis wins a cup and a conditional 2nd in 2015 if Miller re-signs with the team would make the trade much more lucrative.
People can be mad but when people start bringing up those 2 players as if we let them walk for nothing like we did a few other players it doesn't make sense. They aren't comparable.
I don't see why.
It's the beginning of December. They're exerting all of their options and making due without a GM in the meantime. Even if they wait until the New Year to select a candidate, they'll have more than a month with the team before the trade deadline.
Take your time. Pick the right guy.
I'm sure candidates have done their own due diligence heading into interviews. You want to know how you wow an executive in an interview? You prepare. You know your stuff. I'm sure candidates have studied Buffalo's prospect pool and have a firm grasp on personnel.
Further, candidates coming in have their OWN direction that they'll want to go about things.
joshjull
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We did let them walk for nothing but why that happened is, I agree, a different situation than now.
struckbyaparkedcar
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Not that it was the right call at the time, that type of trade was almost unheard of back in 2007 (and still is), but after watching Briere, Suter and others go through the motions in the playoffs, I just don't want any player in their situation on my team in a 7 game series.
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Well we did reach game 7 of the ECF the season we let them go.... With Satan it was addition by subtraction. Zhitnik though should have been kept, we would have gotten Brayden Coburn out of it
(my god the Thrashers were a ****ing horrid organization..... Brayden Coburn for a old over the hill Alexei Zhitnik 
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Jim Bob
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Well we did reach game 7 of the ECF the season we let them go.... With Satan it was addition by subtraction. Zhitnik though should have been kept, we would have gotten Brayden Coburn out of it
I wasn't saying trade Briere and Drury because they weren't in selling mode that year.
The Sabres missed the playoffs in 2003-04, the last season in Buffalo for Zhitnik & Satan. That was a huge missed opportunity. Although, that was a different situation, too as ownership wanted to try and make the playoffs for the additional revenue and they missed....
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I understand the bigger scope of what you're saying in regards to my comparison. I was looking at more of a micro, "we let two players walk for nothing, what precedent did we set?" I ignored the situation surrounding that particular season. That's my bad.
I think in the case of Miller, hindsight would be a difference maker and no one can predict that. Fans will be upset if he walks for nothing even if nothing was offered. Fans will be upset if we trade him for a 4th rounder even if that's all that was offered and we didn't want to lose him for nothing.
I don't see any of these situations playing out. Miller will tell whoever needs to know that he intends to stay or go. We'll get something favorable for his value if we trade him, but fans will still feel the sting of losing him. This has potential to be a lose-lose situation any way you slice it. Well, lose-lose if your name isn't Ryan Miller.
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We should if they guy we want is not available. Period. Why settle for second best? Isn't that why we are here in the first place?
Im fine with taking your time... but that time isn't unlimited... a month is cool... 2 months is fine... if you wait til next year it means you have no idea what you are doing.
I didn't want them to hire the first guy they like... but lets not be ridiculous... going an entire season without a GM is just silly.
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