Speculation: New GM Candidates?
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Jim Bob
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The way I read the comment is that they would be willing to wait if a scenario played out where they want to hire a guy (let's say Botteril, for example) and his current team said that they would release him from his contract after the season.
Is it better to pass on a guy you really like because they can't start until after the season and then hire a guy you don't like as much that can start tomorrow?
Or, is there a current GM who's contract is expiring after the season that they might want.
When is Bowman's contract up in Chicago?
[Bowman is a joke because he re-upped with the Hawks in September]
That would be a dick ass move by the Pens..."yes, you can interview for this job... but if you are lucky to get it... we will jeopardize your chances by making you wait 6 months...."
has **** like that ever happened?
I don't know... it's like the BPA vs Need debate... how great is the difference between the two... they are largely interviewing "1st timers"... if the guy you have to wait for is the only guy that excites you... i guess you wait... but... meh, Lafontaine has no experience with this stuff anyways... so my faith in his judgement to wait for some specific guy... is limited
i guess... no, nevermind... it's still stupid. Being a GM isn't rocket science.
every time this gets brought up I want to Hulk Smash things...
Jim Bob
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I'm not sure. But, Pat did say something to the effect of "if we have to wait to get the candidate we like..." and it sounded to me like a situation where they interview a guy, want him, he wants the job, but he can't start right away.
It will be interesting to see if that happens.
I wonder if they would get to do a presser with the GM-to-be before he goes back to work with his current club in that scenario.
I'm not sure. But, Pat did say something to the effect of "if we have to wait to get the candidate we like..." and it sounded to me like a situation where they interview a guy, want him, he wants the job, but he can't start right away.
It will be interesting to see if that happens.
I wonder if they would get to do a presser with the GM-to-be before he goes back to work with his current club in that scenario.
That may be Treliving based on Maloney's comment that Treliving is a big part of what they do in Phoenix and the organization would have to think long and hard about letting him go in-season.
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Well I meant not keeping Satan and Zhitnik, we got rid of them once the CBA was signed. We didn't offer a deal to Zhitnik and we declined the qualifying option to Satan. We had a chance to keep his rights and then trade him but we refused. As for Zhitnik,a 33 year old dman who was eroding right between our eyes, I'm glad Darcy didnt spend 4 mil a year on him til he was 37. Remember that was after the rollback and with a very low cap limit. Zhitniks 4 million dollar cap hit was more then 10% of the upper cap limit that year (39 mil). That is the equivalent of someone making over 6.4 million cap hit this season. Giving the equivalent to that to Alexei Zhitnik, who was a #2/3 dman at best superstar money would have been insane. In fact in his last season he wasnt even the leading scorer among defenseman, he was behind Dmitri Kalinin. The Isles really had to overpay to get players to sign there during that era.
The Sabres were contending for a spot all season in 03-04. Remember, they had just acquired Danny Briere the year before at the deadline and then made a blockbuster trade to acquire Chris Drury. Moving Satan and Zhitnik at that time would have been a bad move. Golisano was not that cheap where he would cut payroll in a playoff race just to save money. Satan was addition by subtraction and was disliked in the locker room. He made our team better by leaving. Darcy felt it wasn't even worth keeping Satan and then trying to move him and cut ties as he was a negative player and caused a lot of ****. I look at that 05-06 roster, and I don't see one spot on the team where Satan would have been a better fit or an upgrade. Nor Zhitnik, aside from the catastrophic injuries occurred during the ECF, but under normal circumstances he would have been a bottom pairing type guy, and not for more then 10 % of the cap.
I am not upset that they didn't get anything for Satan and Zhitnik. The 05-07 period was probably the best 2 years in franchise history and that resulted from getting rid of 2 veterans who were mercurial and bad teammates. Yes they screwed up the co caps but we cannot blame them for not trying. They wanted Drury and were willing to match any offer. He was dead set on joining the rangers and the rest is history. It's not like they declined to try and re-sign none of the two but Drury didn't want to stay. I would have preferred to keep Briere anyway but unless he was willing to sign for a discount I am glad they didn't pay him what Philly did. He made 6.5 a year and had maybe 1 1/2 good seasons. He never came close to matching his success here.
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Bobby Mac on insider trading said it will be until new year or beyond before the sabres get a GM and he added director of amateur scouting from LA to the list
TSN Insider Trading: Dec. 10
When will the Sabres name a new GM? Bob McKenzie says 6-10 names on PLF's list with the Sabres asking for permission to talk to the LAK's director of amateur scouting Michael Futa.
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You guys WANT to pursue Futa. Trust me. The Kings are where they are because Futa has drafted talent like CRAZY and Mark Morris has developed that talent into quality NHLers. Those two are criminally underrated. But I hope Futa doesn't go. He's far too critical to the Kings. Futa does have GM experience, in Owen Sound of the OHL.
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@helenenothelen: Sabres asked Kings' permission to talk to Michael Futa, Kings' co-director of amateur scouting, about vacant Buffalo GM job. (more)
@helenenothelen: That request is under consideration by the Kings, a club executive said.
@helenenothelen: That request is under consideration by the Kings, a club executive said.
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Patty gonna interview every assistant GM in the league? not that I'm complaining about a thorough search but jebus
Beats the hell out of the HC search that yielded us RR as I'm sure you'll agree. Bottom line, get the right guy.
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ZZamboni
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I hope he interviews no less than 20-30 different guys. And if it takes 3-6 months to accomplish, so be it. Find the guy, find the right guy. Don't rush just because of a few vocal impatient fans.
patty is just using pegs superfan-ness pick the brains of everyone in the NHL... before he names himself GM
the more interviews they do, the more blocking we will see... its one thing when your guy is one of 3 or 4 candidates, its another thing when the new guy is clearly trying to pick the brains of everyone in the NHL
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that's a really big minus
It was equally as bad at the time too... if I remember right they tried to trade down, couldn't, so they just took Hickey. Most had him in the mid-to-late teens that year and they took him over Alzer, who was the consensus #1 defenseman.
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