Speculation: New coach options?

Who will be named our new HC?

  • Vincent

  • Lalonde

  • Muller

  • Arniel

  • Julien

  • Carberry

  • Montgomery

  • Brunette

  • None of the above


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Zippity

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It will be another true north and/or ex employee .
Pascal Vincent
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Maybe Mike Keane will take a shot at it
 

DRW204

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If Lowry makes the PO's what's the % chance of Him sticking? In your opinions...
 

BoneDocUK

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If Lowry makes the PO's what's the % chance of Him sticking? In your opinions...

Precisely 0%, IMO.

Making the playoffs with a max cap roster was the minimum expectation coming into the season, as a few of Chevy's pressers have indicated. If they go on a deep run, maybe, but I expect that both the eyetest and the numbers under Big Dave point to a coaching hire in the offseason.
 

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I am a bigger fan of up and coming guys like Mitch Love or Brad Lauer as opposed to a retread. Both those guys track to be in the NHL at some point, probably Love sooner than Lauer, and have had some great success where they have been.

That said TNSE would likely go with Morrison before anyone else if there was a change.
 
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Hunter368

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Would it kill the Jets to not look at a retread?

Try a younger new face? or even an older new face?

Similar to hiring for a senior position in any company, one is a known quality (generally) and the other is a shot in the dark (spin the wheel). IMO one would sooner spin the wheel with a younger team who is developing along with the coach and teams going (with a short window) for it hire more known quality types. Just IMO
 

Hunter368

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He's an interesting choice. Seems to bounce around a lot but his team's generally do pretty well.

He's one, if available, who I might kick the tires on and like to know more about in a interview process.
 
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BoneDocUK

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He's an interesting choice. Seems to bounce around a lot but his team's generally do pretty well.

Also a close friend of Maurice, which might smooth the way, in a MinniPeg Mafia sorta way. Don't see Vega$ hanging onto him, especially if they miss the POs.

DeBoer loses bet

Knights coach Pete DeBoer received a text from one of his friends in the coaching business Friday morning. It said “I won.”

It came from Paul Maurice, who resigned as coach of the Winnipeg Jets on Friday because he said he believes his players needed a new voice. DeBoer worked under Maurice on the Ontario Hockey League’s Detroit Junior Red Wings for two seasons from 1993-95 and they’ve remained friends since.

Maurice has coached 1,684 NHL games and DeBoer has coached 962.

“We have an ongoing joke,” DeBoer said. “We’re lifelong coaches, both of us. We started together when we were in our mid-20s. It was always who was going to walk away first and grab a fishing pole and go to the lake and he texted me today that he won. I’m not sure he won’t be back though. We’ll see. I’m not going to pay that debt yet.



 

DRW204

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Precisely 0%, IMO.

Making the playoffs with a max cap roster was the minimum expectation coming into the season, as a few of Chevy's pressers have indicated. If they go on a deep run, maybe, but I expect that both the eyetest and the numbers under Big Dave point to a coaching hire in the offseason.
If bad numbers or eyetest was ever a critical piece of the criteria Maurice would have been fired and not lasted as long as cooper at the time he quit. Perhaps it matters much more now though :dunno:
 

BoneDocUK

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If bad numbers or eyetest was ever a critical piece of the criteria Maurice would have been fired and not lasted as long as cooper at the time he quit. Perhaps it matters much more now though :dunno:

Oh, I agree, but Chevy seems to have taken a tougher line this season, perhaps because of the spend on retooling the D and so on. My guess is that Lowry was told from the get-go that he would be strictly an interim coach, and isn't really auditioning for the full-time gig.

Had he pulled a Sutter and led the Jets to a record or even strong season and a playoff run maybe he gets to join the pool of HC candidates, but I don't see it now. For one thing, I think the org really likes having a polished communicator in that position in order to rep the team through choppy waters and save Chevy from having to do anything more than mumble incoherently a few times a year, and Big Dave is not that guy.

My bet is that they go for a coach who is stronger at the front-facing stuff and will take on the job on integrating youth and older core as Maurice did back in the day, with the understanding that this is a small window now.
 

BoneDocUK

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ken weibe on the daily faceoff says lowry can be the right person for the job, blames the players.. then suggests travis green as a potential coach..:help:

Weibe is a company man par excellence -- maybe he has inside info and some water to carry?
 

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ken weibe on the daily faceoff says lowry can be the right person for the job, blames the players.. then suggests travis green as a potential coach..:help:

If Lowry is the right coach, then the problem has to be the players. But, the problem with the players is the time ( years ) it takes to change them. We don't have that time IMO.

If you want better results and you are going to keep the players that you have, then you need to find a coach that can get the most out of these players.

Is this Lowry? It's a small sample , but Lowry's W-L record ( this season ) is really no better than Maurice's so far. And the team looks to be playing the same way and player usage is similar to Maurice.

I'm not sure I'm all in on the Jets taking the interim label off Lowry and giving him next season to see how it goes.
 
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WolfHouse

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Lowry, DeBoer and Green are a depressing lot...

The team needs Trotz or Julien - we'd be a boring team but the net front would be clear and their systems are simple

Gap control guys like Heinola and DeMelo would thrive.
 

WolfHouse

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If Lowry is the right coach, then the problem has to be the players. But, the problem with the players is the time ( years ) it takes to change them. We don't have that time IMO.

If you want better results and you are going to keep the players that you have, then you need to find a coach that can get the most out of these players.

Is this Lowry? It's a small sample , but Lowry's W-L record is really no better than Maurice's so far. And the team looks to be playing the same way and player usage is similar to Maurice.

I'm not sure I'm all in on the Jets taking the interim label off Lowry and giving him next season to see how it goes.
How do you ever separate Lowry from huddy, etc now though? I saw system changes when Lowry took control but then I saw those lapse and we still play Maurice's system for large parts of these games. The lapse coincided with Wheeler's return so i don't know if there's a disconnect or just coincidence.

I think you need to clean house.
 
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How do you ever separate Lowry from huddy, etc now though? I saw system changes when Lowry took control but then I saw those lapse and we still play Maurice's system for large parts of these games. The lapse coincided with Wheeler's return so i don't know if there's a disconnect or just coincidence.

I think you need to clean house.
ok, you are just making shit up now..
 

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Oh, I agree, but Chevy seems to have taken a tougher line this season, perhaps because of the spend on retooling the D and so on. My guess is that Lowry was told from the get-go that he would be strictly an interim coach, and isn't really auditioning for the full-time gig.

Had he pulled a Sutter and led the Jets to a record or even strong season and a playoff run maybe he gets to join the pool of HC candidates, but I don't see it now. For one thing, I think the org really likes having a polished communicator in that position in order to rep the team through choppy waters and save Chevy from having to do anything more than mumble incoherently a few times a year, and Big Dave is not that guy.

My bet is that they go for a coach who is stronger at the front-facing stuff and will take on the job on integrating youth and older core as Maurice did back in the day, with the understanding that this is a small window now.
I don't disagree Chevy perhaps has a tougher line now. We're a win-now team spending to the cap in year-11 with this GM. The expectation should be a Cup.

Given that premise, with 65% of The season left he chose big Dave as the coach to lead us to the promise land. So I wonder about Chevys criteria /coaching philosophy. And tto top it off the guy in charge of defense has been around since year 1, go figure
 

WolfHouse

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ok, you are just making shit up now..
I watched the same games you did.

Im not blaming Wheeler - maybe Lowry felt more comfortable with his personnel once Wheels was back. Could just be the coaching staff regressing to what the team knows as well... but our D system is a fkn disaster and has been for a long time.

Lowry has overplayed his top guys and Helle since day one... but early on were also playing zone D, cycling on the powerplay and had an aggressive PK

Wheeler definitely pulled the PP back to the cross ice feed and perimeter passing. You can't argue with that.
 

DRW204

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If Lowry is the right coach, then the problem has to be the players. But, the problem with the players is the time ( years ) it takes to change them. We don't have that time IMO.

If you want better results and you are going to keep the players that you have, then you need to find a coach that can get the most out of these players.

Is this Lowry? It's a small sample , but Lowry's W-L record ( this season ) is really no better than Maurice's so far. And the team looks to be playing the same way and player usage is similar to Maurice.

I'm not sure I'm all in on the Jets taking the interim label off Lowry and giving him next season to see how it goes.
I'm not either. I don't think it's out of the realm of possibilities this is the way Chevy and co wants this roster composed, and the style the team plays.
 
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