New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[Tobias Kahun]

She never had a case against Katz. What are you on about?

I’m arguing that Katz has been involved in enough bad optics that the NHL should part ways, as this build up of multiple issues displays a pattern of moral character far worse than coach Q or Bowman.


Are you saying the direct payment isn’t accurate, or the 75k? Katz’s lawyer already admitted to the direct payment, which is the real issue here.

" Katz's lawyer said at the end of July that it was $50K, as seen in the text messages."

Hope this helps you out.

And you were in here asking if people needed to wear helmets.

Comical.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

So OK, why not accuse Katz? He would be the far larger jack pot by about 500 country miles in this case.

Accuse Katz of what? Sending a direct payment to an 18 year old? Talk about a rock solid case. You have no understanding of the law if you think she would be awarded diddly squat in a civil case against a billionaire with legal ground to stand on.

Can you read? What part of "Katz's lawyer had to correct the amount of the actual payment" are you having trouble with?

Can you read? What part of Katz’s lawyer admitted to a sketchy direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked are you having trouble with?

" Katz's lawyer said at the end of July that it was $50K, as seen in the text messages."

Hope this helps you out.

And you were in here asking if people needed to wear helmets.

Comical.

Sounds like Katz’s lawyer admitted to the direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked. Glad we are on the same page.

 

[rec28]

Accuse Katz of what? Sending a direct payment to an 18 year old? Talk about a rock solid case. You have no understanding of the law if you think she would be awarded diddly squat in a civil case against a billionaire with legal ground to stand on.


Can you read? What part of Katz’s lawyer admitted to a sketchy direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked are you having trouble with?

There it is again. You keep hinting at something but you don’t have the balls to actually state it outright.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

There it is again. You keep hinting but you don’t have the balls to state it outright.

Hinting at what? How is there anything good optically about a married billionaire sending direct payments to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked? Why would the NHL want to be associated with this guy?

 

[rec28]

Hinting at what? How is there anything good optically about a married billionaire sending direct payments to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked? Why would the NHL want to be associated with this guy?

You’re so close - almost there. Just stretch a little further…

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

You’re so close - almost there. Just stretch a little further…

There’s nothing to stretch bud. Just say it enough until you get it. A married billionaire sending private direct payments to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked, after many issues with scummy behavior in the past, should have no relationship with the NHL.

 

[Soundwave]

Accuse Katz of what? Sending a direct payment to an 18 year old? Talk about a rock solid case. You have no understanding of the law if you think she would be awarded diddly squat in a civil case against a billionaire with legal ground to stand on.


Can you read? What part of Katz’s lawyer admitted to a sketchy direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked are you having trouble with?


Sounds like Katz’s lawyer admitted to the direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked. Glad we are on the same page.

She disputes the sex trafficking claim, again made by the sexual assaulters, so no that isn't some fact written in stone. It's a desperation tactic from the people who are actually being accused of assualting her.

What exactly was the case that the women who accused Prince Andrew had in hard evidence? She basically won a multi-million dollar settlement on the basis of one photo. If the woman in question here wanted to pursue Katz, she probably could.

 

[PostBradMalone]

No one is saying that there wasn't money sent.

But i'll believe the female victims over the accused.

So let’s get this straight: if a man in his 50s asked you to give him the phone number of your teenage daughter/sister/niece with the intent of sending them creepy messages and money for dubious purposes, you’d willingly shoot them over their contact details?

 

[rec28]

I don’t know what they dollar amount is and neither do you. We do know Katz admitted to the direct payment. That is the issue at hand. Nobody cares if it was 50k or 75k, idk how that would be relevant.


There’s nothing to stretch bud. Just say it enough until you get it. A married billionaire sending private direct payments to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked, after many issues with scummy behavior in the past, should have no relationship with the NHL.

I give up. Enjoy your crusade. I’m sure the NHL appreciates the zeal with which you clutch your pearls on its behalf.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

She disputes the sex trafficking claim, again made by the sexual assaulters, so no that isn't some fact written in stone. It's a desperation tactic from the people who are actually being accused of assualting her.

What exactly was the case that the women who accused Prince Andrew had in hard evidence? She basically won a multi-million dollar settlement on the basis of one photo. If the woman in question here wanted to pursue Katz, she probably has more proof.

Wrong and wrong. Maybe do an ounce of research before jumping into a conversation pretending to have authority.

 

[Del Preston]

I don’t know what they dollar amount is and neither do you. We do know Katz admitted to the direct payment. That is the issue at hand. Nobody cares if it was 50k or 75k, idk how that would be relevant.

Because it's another thing wrong with the Button's accusations that you keep using in here. How are you not getting any of this?

Humphries, her lawyer, Katz, and his lawyer have all said there wasn't a sexual relationship and the money was for her movie. Whether or not you believe that is irrelevant. There's no way of proving the relationship was anything other than what the parties who were actually involved have said about it. You've come to an absurd conclusion based on a screenshot of some text messages.

Your entire argument in here is based on the accusations from a third party who is currently being sued by seven women and just had their lawyer today apologize to Katz for accusing him of having sex with a minor. And they got the "sexual payment" amount wrong in their initial filing when they had access to the text messages showing how much the actual amount was. Why would you believe anything coming from them at this point? Because you want Katz kicked out of the league?

 

[Tobias Kahun]

So let’s get this straight: if a man in his 50s asked you to give him the phone number of your teenage daughter/sister/niece with the intent of sending them creepy messages and money for dubious purposes, you’d willingly shoot them over their contact details?

So, what you're saying is you believe the Buttons over Humphries/Katz.

 

[PostBradMalone]

So, what you're saying is you believe the Buttons over Humphries/Katz.

You're not answering my question. A seedy looking guy approaches you, and says "Your teenage daughter is just so perfect, it scares me. I really want to send them over some cash to spend on themselves... you know, buy themselves something nice. Can I have their number?"

Based on your many posts defending Katz, you'd do it, right?

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Because it's another thing wrong with the Button's accusations that you keep using in here. How are you not getting any of this?

Humphries, her lawyer, Katz, and his lawyer have all said there wasn't a sexual relationship and the money was for her movie. Whether or not you believe that is irrelevant. There's no way of proving the relationship was anything other than what the parties who were actually involved have said about it. You've come to an absurd conclusion based on a screenshot of some text messages.

Your entire argument in here is based on the accusations from a third party who is currently being sued by seven women and just had their lawyer today apologize to Katz for accusing him of having sex with a minor. And they got the "sexual payment" amount wrong in their initial filing when they had access to the text messages showing how much the actual amount was. Why would you believe anything coming from them at this point? Because you want Katz kicked out of the league?

Katz’s own lawyer admitted to the direct payment, how are you not getting this?

 

[Soundwave]

So let’s get this straight: if a man in his 50s asked you to give him the phone number of your teenage daughter/sister/niece with the intent of sending them creepy messages and money for dubious purposes, you’d willingly shoot them over their contact details?

Regardless of the details of this case, a man doesn't own a woman like a piece of f***ing cattle.

When she is 18, she has the freedom to sleep with whatever consenting adult partner she wants to sleep with.

She does not have to clear that with her father like she lives in Taliban land if that's what she wanted to do.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

So, what you're saying is you believe the Buttons over Humphries/Katz.

Katz’s own lawyer admitted to the direct payment. What are you not getting?

 

[PostBradMalone]

Regardless of the details of this case, a man doesn't own a woman like a piece of f***ing cattle.

When she is 18, she has the freedom to sleep with whatever consenting adult partner she wants to sleep with.

She does not have to clear that with her father like she lives in Taliban land even if that's what she wanted to do.

So you're giving that guy in my thought experiment their number, right?

 

[Del Preston]

Katz’s own lawyer admitted to the direct payment, how are you not getting this?

No one in here is saying the payment didn't happen. Try to keep up.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Katz’s own lawyer admitted to the direct payment. What are you not getting?

No
One
Is
Denying
A
Payment.

How hard is that for you to f***ing understand.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Regardless of the details of this case, a man doesn't own a woman like a piece of f***ing cattle.

When she is 18, she has the freedom to sleep with whatever consenting adult partner she wants to sleep with.

She does not have to clear that with her father like she lives in Taliban land if that's what she wanted to do.

Do you honestly have a high moral opinion of a man 50+ preying on 18 year olds? Especially ones who have been through traumatic experiences such as allegedly being sex trafficked?

I’d stop hanging out with my buddy if he was messing around with teenagers period. I’m only knocking on 40.

No one in here is saying the payment didn't happen. Try to keep up.

Then seriously. What are you saying? That Katz, while innocent, is a moral and upstanding individual that you are happy the NHL is in business with?

 

[Soundwave]

So you're giving that guy in my thought experiment their number, right?

Father's are now giving out their daughter's number for hook ups? You've lost the f***ing plot at this point dude. Seriously. You're inventing stupid imaginary scenarios.

If a woman is 18 and she wants to f*** the front line of the Dallas Cowboys and they're down for it, then that's a woman's choice.

But I don't think anything like that even happened in this case.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Do you honestly have a high moral opinion of a man 50+ preying on 18 year olds? Especially ones who have been through traumatic experiences such as allegedly being sex trafficked?

I’d stop hanging out with my buddy if he was messing around with teenagers period. I’m only knocking on 40.


Then seriously. What are you saying? That Katz, while innocent, is a moral and upstanding individual that you are happy the NHL is in business with?

You keep saying the issue is that a payment happened.

When thats not the issue.

The issue was what the money was for.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

No
One
Is
Denying
A
Payment.

How hard is that for you to f***ing understand.

So
What
Are
You
Trying
To
Prove?

 

[Del Preston]

Then seriously. What are you saying? That Katz, while innocent, is a moral and upstanding individual that you are happy the NHL is in business with?

I'm saying read the f***ing article before commenting. 90% of the shit you have posted in here has been disputed by the involved parties or was retracted today by the third party making the accusations.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

So
What
Are
You
Trying
To
Prove?

Im not the one in here making accusations about what the money was for when all the involved parties have said otherwise.

Pretty much over here telling everyone you side with the Buttons.