New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[MacMacandBarbie]

He's a billionaire, must also be a rapist.

Solid logic

He’s a billionaire, with a history of being scummy, who just admitted to sending a direct payment to a young woman that was allegedly sex trafficked. Not a good look for the NHL.

Nobody ever said anything about Katz being a rapist. Except you, why is rape on your mind?

So your claim is that she is a whore who f***s for money, and you believe this is on the basis of a text message from people who are accused by multiple women of sex grooming that may not even be legitimate? How difficult would it be to fake a text message string like that? It could be done in 5 minutes.

Even if that's the case, lol, why would she being suing the Buttons who are probably worth diddly shit, instead of cashing in on several million she could probably walk away with from making an accusation against Katz?

How could you say that is my claim?

Katz admitted to sending a direct payment to a woman who has allegedly been sex trafficked. Make of that what you will, but don’t put words in my mouth.

 

[Soundwave]

He’s a billionaire, with a history of being scummy, who just admitted to sending a direct payment to a young woman that was allegedly sex trafficked. Not a good look for the NHL.

Nobody ever said anything about Katz being a rapist. Except you, why is rape on your mind?


How could you say that is my claim?

Katz admitted to sending a direct payment to a woman who has allegedly been sex trafficked. Make of that what you will, but don’t put words in my mouth.

Your claim is essentially you don't believe her, so you believe the people accused of sexual assault, that's the side you are on.

You can't tap dance and have it both ways when ever it suits your case. You are saying basically she is a liar and that you believe the story concocted by people who have multiple sex allegations levelled against them who have now withdrawn their compliant.

 

[rec28]

Why would a woman who received a sketchy direct payment of 75k, which she likely never paid taxes on, admit to anything going between her and Katz? What motivation would she have to admit to anything between her and Katz period?

So the fact that the Buttons conveniently knew about the direct payment and the exact amount of it means nothing to you?

Allegations dropped and your pivot is to malign the character and honesty of the victim?

Solid flex.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Should've put that money towards Rogers Place.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Your claim is essentially you don't believe her, so you believe the people accused of sexual assault, that's the side you are on.

You can't tap dance and have it both ways when ever it suits your case. You are saying basically she is a liar and that you believe the story concocted by people who have multiple sex allegations levelled against them who have now withdrawn their compliant.

Why would I believe someone who has everything to gain, and nothing to lose? That’s called sound logic bud. She has nothing to gain by saying she got money from Katz, and everything to lose. Use your brain bud.

I will believe the Buttons under the condition that they can tell me the exact amount of the direct payment Katz sent her. Why would they know the exact amount?

 

[Del Preston]

Why would a woman who received a sketchy direct payment of 75k, which she likely never paid taxes on, admit to anything going between her and Katz? What motivation would she have to admit to anything between her and Katz period?

So the fact that the Buttons conveniently knew about the direct payment and the exact amount of it means nothing to you?

The Buttons knew of the payment because the husband had Humphries's cell phone for social media purposes. He released the text messages to smear Katz and paint Humphries as a skank who f***s men for money in an attempt to weaken the lawsuit she and the other ballerinas have against the Buttons for years of sexual abuse. This was pointed out weeks ago by her lawyer.

We still have people making stupid posts without bothering to take five mintues to read what they are commenting on.

Lock this shit up.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Allegations dropped and your pivot is to malign the character and honesty of the victim?

Solid flex.

Allegations dropped because she was 18 and not 17. So you believe this sketchy ‘movie’ direct payment from Katz and Sage, which was admitted to by Katz lawyer, doesn’t look sketchy and there is nothing to see here?

I hope you don’t live in a big city cause you’d be scammed by every street artist you pass by. Look both ways before you cross the road and always make sure to wear your helmet.

 

[Soundwave]

Why would I believe someone who has everything to gain, and nothing to lose? That’s called sound logic bud. She has nothing to gain by saying she got money from Katz, and everything to lose. Use your brain bud.

She could easily score a settlement of millions of dollars if she were to flip her story and accuse Katz himself. She has far more to gain by accusing Katz.

You think she's scoring some huge settlement from the Buttons? lol. These losers probably barely make their rent payments.

If she wanted she could easily walk out of this with a monster pay day, I think what's actually happening is she wants justice against the people who did actually abuse her (the Buttons).

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

The Buttons knew of the payment because the husband had Humphries's cell phone for social media purposes. He released the text messages to smear Katz and paint Humphries as a skank who f***s men for money in an attempt to weaken the lawsuit she and the other ballerinas have against the Buttons for years of sexual abuse. This was pointed out weeks ago by her lawyer.

We still have people making stupid posts without bothering to take five mintues to read what they are commenting on.

Lock this shit up.

Duh. The buttons know about the sketchy direct payment because it actually happened, as confirmed by Katz lawyer.

Why you are defending this scum just because he isn’t in direct violation of the law, but morally corrupt is beyond me. There is no way to view Katz in this situation with good optics. The NHL should have parted ways awhile ago, it just isn’t a good look being in business with this guy.

Are you that stupid? She could easily score a settlement of millions of dollars if she were to flip her story and accuse Katz himself. She has far more to gain by accusing Katz.

You think she's scoring some huge settlement from the Buttons? lol. These losers probably barely make their rent payments.

If she wanted she could easily walk out of this with a monster pay day, I think what's actually happening is she wants justice against the people who did actually abuse her (the Buttons).

It’s been proven there is no legal ground to stand on to sue Katz. He’s just a morally corrupt individual who skirts the law.

Yeah, Sage is going to turn her back on the lawsuit against her abusers, that she teamed up against with MULTIPLE dancers who went through the same traumatic experience, all because she has a weak case against a billionaire. Sound logic right there.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Why would I believe someone who has everything to gain, and nothing to lose? That’s called sound logic bud. She has nothing to gain by saying she got money from Katz, and everything to lose. Use your brain bud.

I will believe the Buttons under the condition that they can tell me the exact amount of the direct payment Katz sent her. Why would they know the exact amount?

You had no problem believing the Humphries. who had everything to gain by dragging Katz into this.

Are you confused?

 

[Del Preston]

Duh. The buttons know about the sketchy direct payment because it actually happened, as confirmed by Katz lawyer.

Why you are defending this scum just because he isn’t in direct violation of the law, but morally corrupt is beyond me. There is no way to view Katz in this situation with good optics. The NHL should have parted ways awhile ago, it just isn’t a good look being in business with this guy.

Lol.

Katz, his lawyer, and Humphries's lawyer have all said nothing happened, but yes, let's take the word of the married couple who are being sued by seven women for years of sexual abuse, got the age of the girl wrong they were trying to claim was an underage prostitute, and are being represented by an attorney who has faced disciplinary hearings in three different states.

You are very smart.

 

[rec28]

Why would I believe someone who has everything to gain, and nothing to lose? That’s called sound logic bud. She has nothing to gain by saying she got money from Katz, and everything to lose. Use your brain bud.

I will believe the Buttons under the condition that they can tell me the exact amount of the direct payment Katz sent her. Why would they know the exact amount?

She is a plaintiff in a civil suit against her alleged traffickers/abusers. She is, at this very moment, literally and actively going after those who have wronged her. Katz is not only NOT among the defendants, she has explicitly and definitively cleared him of any wrong doing. You all but state outright - and rather disgustingly btw - that money is motivating her actions. Yet she is not pursuing a civil claim against the billionaire…

 

[Soundwave]

Duh. The buttons know about the sketchy direct payment because it actually happened, as confirmed by Katz lawyer.

Why you are defending this scum just because he isn’t in direct violation of the law, but morally corrupt is beyond me. There is no way to view Katz in this situation with good optics. The NHL should have parted ways awhile ago, it just isn’t a good look being in business with this guy.


It’s been proven there is no legal ground to stand on to sue Katz. He’s just a morally corrupt individual who skirts the law.

Yeah, Sage is going to turn her back on the lawsuit against her abusers, that she teamed up against with MULTIPLE dancers who went through the same traumatic experience, all because she has a weak case against a billionaire. Sound logic right there.

How's it a weak case, you seem to think that text chain and payment is slam dunk proof.

Why not come out with millions of dollars? Could it be because nothing actually happened?

She could also sue both the Buttons and Katz, you do realize that, right? Like one doesn't preclude her from doing the other if in fact she was actually abused by both.

If she's so vigilant and gung ho about getting justice from the Buttons, why not also take out Katz which would be a far more lucrative upside for her.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

You had no problem believing the Humphries. who had everything to gain by dragging Katz into this.

Are you confused?

I believed the Humphries, because they cited the exact amount and details to such a degree that even Katz’s lawyer came out with a sketchy statement that the money was for a ‘movie’

Do you believe Katz’s lawyer who said they sent a direct payment?

How's it a weak case, you seem to think that text chain and payment is slam dunk proof.

Why not come out with millions of dollars? Could it be because nothing actually happened?

She could also sue both the Buttons and Katz, you do realize that, right? Like one doesn't preclude her from doing the other if in fact she was actually abused by both.

If she's so vigilante and gung ho about getting justice from the Buttons, why not also take out Katz which would be a far more lucrative upside for her.

I believe Katz’s lawyer who came out and admitted a direct payment was sent. You believe whatever you want bud.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

She is a plaintiff in a civil suit against her alleged traffickers/abusers. She is, at this very moment, literally and actively going after those who have wronged her. Katz is not only NOT among the defendants, she has explicitly and definitively cleared him of any wrong doing. You all but state outright - and rather disgustingly btw - that money is motivating her actions. Yet she is not pursuing a civil claim against the billionaire…

I just said money is the motivation for not pursuing a weak, if not completely baseless case, against a billionaire. Reread the thread again, this time just let the information sink in before you say something so silly.

Why would someone, who got paid 75k as a direct payment from katz, admit to it and derail this case she just made against the buttons? Especially if she didn’t pay taxes on it?

 

[rec28]

Allegations dropped because she was 18 and not 17. So you believe this sketchy ‘movie’ direct payment from Katz and Sage, which was admitted to by Katz lawyer, doesn’t look sketchy and there is nothing to see here?

I hope you don’t live in a big city cause you’d be scammed by every street artist you pass by. Look both ways before you cross the road and always make sure to wear your helmet.

Yes. 18 not 17, which made whatever happened between them, literally between two consenting adults and none of your f***ing business. She confirms that it was on the level and so does he. As they were both adults at the time, that’s the end of it. No one gives a shit if the age difference creeps you out or if you find any of it sketchy. Consenting adults and no evidence of criminal activity - why THE f*** are you still arguing about this?

 

[Soundwave]

I believed the Humphries, because they cited the exact amount and details to such a degree that even Katz’s lawyer came out with a sketchy statement that the money was for a ‘movie’

Do you believe Katz’s lawyer who said they sent a direct payment?


I believe Katz’s lawyer who came out and admitted a direct payment was sent. You believe whatever you want bud.

So OK, why not accuse Katz? He would be the far larger jack pot by about 500 country miles in this case.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I believed the Humphries, because they cited the exact amount and details to such a degree that even Katz’s lawyer came out with a sketchy statement that the money was for a ‘movie’

Do you believe Katz’s lawyer who said they sent a direct payment?


I believe Katz’s lawyer who came out and admitted a direct payment was sent. You believe whatever you want bud.

No one is saying that there wasn't money sent.

But i'll believe the female victims over the accused.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Yes. 18 not 17, which made whatever happened between them, literally between two consenting adults and none of your f***ing business. She confirms that it was on the level and so does he. As they were both adults at the time, that’s the end of it. No one gives a shit if the age difference creeps you out of of you find any of it sketchy. Consenting adults and no evidence of criminal activity - why THE f*** are you still arguing about this?

Yeah, he’s innocent, as in he didn’t pursue an underage girl.

He’s morally corrupt, and if you are okay with the fact that your owner has been involved in multiple scummy situations, just admitted to sending a direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked, then you’re in the minority. This is a bad look for the NHL.

 

[rec28]

I just said money is the motivation for not pursuing a weak, if not completely baseless case, against a billionaire. Reread the thread again, this time just let the information sink in before you say something so silly.

Why would someone, who got paid 75k as a direct payment from katz, admit to it and derail this case she just made against the buttons? Especially if she didn’t pay taxes on it?

Wait - now her case against Katz, in your own words, is “weak if not completely baseless”

WTF are you even arguing anymore other than “durr, Katz bad man”?

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

No one is saying that there wasn't money sent.

But i'll believe the female victims over the accused.

The female victim says she didn’t receive 75k, and is going along with the sketchiest story ever. So believe what you want. I’ll believe the multiple dancers who accused the Buttons, and I’ll believe that Sage received a sketchy direct payment while she was being sex trafficked.

 

[Del Preston]

I just said money is the motivation for not pursuing a weak, if not completely baseless case, against a billionaire. Reread the thread again, this time just let the information sink in before you say something so silly.

Why would someone, who got paid 75k as a direct payment from katz, admit to it and derail this case she just made against the buttons? Especially if she didn’t pay taxes on it?

The $75,000 amount isn't even accurate, by the way. So that's another error/lie from the Buttons that you've decided to believe and keep using as an argument in here. Katz's lawyer said at the end of July that it was $50K, as seen in the text messages.

What a rock solid case from the Buttons. I can't imagine why their lawyer apologized to Katz today.

Maybe read a couple articles about what is going on here before posting again.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

Wait - now her case against Katz, in your own words, is “weak if not completely baseless”

WTF are you even arguing anymore other than “durr, Katz bad man”?

She never had a case against Katz. What are you on about?

I’m arguing that Katz has been involved in enough bad optics that the NHL should part ways, as this build up of multiple issues displays a pattern of moral character far worse than coach Q or Bowman.

The $75,000 amount isn't even accurate, by the way. So that's another error/lie from the Buttons that you've decided to believe and keep using as an argument in here. Katz's lawyer said at the end of July that it was $50K, as seen in the text messages.

What a rock solid case from the Buttons. I can't imagine why their lawyer apologized to Katz today.

Maybe read a couple articles about what is going on here before posting again.

Are you saying the direct payment isn’t accurate, or the 75k? Katz’s lawyer already admitted to the direct payment, which is the real issue here.

 

[rec28]

Yeah, he’s innocent, as in he didn’t pursue an underage girl.

He’s morally corrupt, and if you are okay with the fact that your owner has been involved in multiple scummy situations, just admitted to sending a direct payment to a woman who was allegedly sex trafficked, then you’re in the minority. This is a bad look for the NHL.

What does one have to do with the other? You’re trying so hard to intimate something, so just say it out loud, if you please. Placing these 2 otherwise unrelated facts next to each other in the same sentence doesn’t magically create a causal relationship.

 

[Del Preston]

Are you saying the direct payment isn’t accurate, or the 75k? Katz’s lawyer already admitted to the direct payment, which is the real issue here.

Can you read? What part of "Katz's lawyer had to correct the amount of the actual payment" are you having trouble with?