New Accusations Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz paid for sex with a teenager.

[ItWasJustified]

In the suspected crime of soliciting the minor, the minor is a victim no matter how she herself may have contributed to the situation. The requirement on acting right is on the adult.

Doesn't require me to morally classify her as a victim though.

 

[Ncit3]

I'm sick and tired of men being unable to keep their goddamn dicks in their pants. Sorry to be crass but it's f***ing disgusting. Every single time we turn around we see some bullshit about some rich asshole using money, power, and leverage to violate the rights of another human being.

Burn this shit down.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

Years ago I worked with 2 of his ex bodyguards. They didn't stick with him long but wouldn't give details as to why they bailed. If he's guilty i hope he's actually punished and can't just buy his way out of it.

 

[MarkusKetterer]

If you say so. I'm not misreading anything. I don't really care about other people's posts. Just my own original post that objectively, a grown, married man having "sex" with a teenager almost 40 years his junior is creepy. Full stop, nothing odd about my stance. A man using his power/money and influence over a young girl for his own pleasure is never okay. Even if she is a "prostitute." There is no evidence that speaks to the fact that she is a prostitute, by the way, just accusations, since I know you are all about facts.

But given that both Katz and Sage Humphries (the woman in question) have both come out and said that there was nothing sexual that happened between the two of them, I would say this post is incorrect in this instance.

In general I agree with the post, though.

 

[Zerotonine]

Katz has always been a sicko.

You guys friends? If not how the f*** would u no other then rumors amd possible B.S stories

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

f***ing gross.

 

[BLNY]

Katz out of the bag.

 

[MDCSL]

Am I the only one who doesn’t find anything particularly wrong here? Creepy, absolutely - but legal age here, and if you put yourself in the reverse situation you’d probably do it happily. I know when I was 17/18, even older I would have happily had sex with a 50 year old woman for 75,000$

If she was doing this through her own free will, and if a billionaire wants to have consensual sex with a pretty young woman, who cares?

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

Am I the only one who doesn’t find anything particularly wrong here? Creepy, absolutely - but legal age here, and if you put yourself in the reverse situation you’d probably do it happily. I know when I was 17/18, even older I would have happily had sex with a 50 year old woman for 75,000$

If she was doing this through her own free will, and if a billionaire wants to have consensual sex with a pretty young woman, who cares?

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

nothing like sexual misconduct allegations to turn a previously universally reviled human being into a cause celebre for some weird sad people

 

[Fire Sweeney]

Am I the only one who doesn’t find anything particularly wrong here? Creepy, absolutely - but legal age here, and if you put yourself in the reverse situation you’d probably do it happily. I know when I was 17/18, even older I would have happily had sex with a 50 year old woman for 75,000$

If she was doing this through her own free will, and if a billionaire wants to have consensual sex with a pretty young woman, who cares?

Wait a minute officer
Don't put those handcuffs on me
Put them on her and I'll share her with you

 

[Gliff]

Am I the only one who doesn’t find anything particularly wrong here? Creepy, absolutely - but legal age here, and if you put yourself in the reverse situation you’d probably do it happily. I know when I was 17/18, even older I would have happily had sex with a 50 year old woman for 75,000$

If she was doing this through her own free will, and if a billionaire wants to have consensual sex with a pretty young woman, who cares?

I’m not even going to comment on bad this take is, but owners are held to a higher standard then an average citizen. Even if you put this in the least bad spin (sugar baby situation) it is still unacceptable for an NHL owner.

 

[TaLoN]

Am I the only one who doesn’t find anything particularly wrong here? Creepy, absolutely - but legal age here, and if you put yourself in the reverse situation you’d probably do it happily. I know when I was 17/18, even older I would have happily had sex with a 50 year old woman for 75,000$

If she was doing this through her own free will, and if a billionaire wants to have consensual sex with a pretty young woman, who cares?

There's this little thing in society called the law. He broke it.

If you think the law is unjust? This isn't the place to discuss that (this is not and will not be a political forum). This is the place to discuss NHL related matters, and currently this guy, who works in the NHL, can't follow the laws within the society he is choosing to live.

 

[Sol]

No one wonders why its being with held, everyone knows why and ita because of the people on that list are extremely powerful people amd pr have very close friends I'm very high places. Brings new meaning to the world's elite. I mean Bill Clinton was I think the biggest traveler on the Lolita express FFS

Damn I didn’t know HF posters did this much homework. Good job

 

[Sol]

I'm sick and tired of men being unable to keep their goddamn dicks in their pants. Sorry to be crass but it's f***ing disgusting. Every single time we turn around we see some bullshit about some rich asshole using money, power, and leverage to violate the rights of another human being.

Burn this shit down.

Not meaning to disregard the first part of what you said but it’s always the extremely wealthy people I’ve met through my line of work that are extremely detached from societal normalcy.

I don’t really know what it is psychologically that happens with immense wealth and corruption but it seems to go hand in hand. I’ve met both men and women who show zero respect for others. Women who try to trap men and men who try to abuse women. I think it’s all some sort of power play for them whenever they get so rich that they think they can buy their way out of anything and not give a damn until their ignorance messes with the wrong people who will stand up.

I’ve met a lot of very wealthy people, 80 percent are not normal and will do whatever it takes to stroke their ego.

I remember reading that the bridge between the wealthy and the middle class have shrunk in a particular way that a normal middle class
Person can live a luxurious lifestyle and since that gap between displaying wealth has shrunk that the Uber elite use methods of exploitation in the idea of owning people to display their financial power over them since items and lifestyle are more obtainable now than ever.

 

[MDCSL]

There's this little thing in society called the law. He broke it.

If you think the law is unjust? This isn't the place to discuss that (this is not and will not be a political forum). This is the place to discuss NHL related matters, and currently this guy, who works in the NHL, can't follow the laws within the society he is choosing to live.

He hired a prostitue, this isn’t murder - the NHL is simply a business. Do you believe every person who has ever committed a crime of any kind should be banned from owning a business? How about stock, should every criminal be forced to liquidate every share they own, or only not allowed to own the whole thing? What the dude did was creepy, but on the whole a very minor thing.

Matthews’ broke the law mooning that cop - should he banned from the NHL? Or do you believe in different standards for players/owners? How minor/major does the crime have to be before you’re no longer allowed to work in the NHL? For me personally the crime would have to be significantly more egregious before saying he’s no longer allowed to associate with the NHL.

 

[MacMacandBarbie]

people here implying this is somehow less awful or he's somehow less of a shit tier person because she was technically above the age of consent.
you have to pull for your franchise that bad? really?

Because she was a couple months shy of being 18, so it’s basically your standard sex trafficking case being portrayed into a child prostitution case which is obviously going to sound way worse.

 

[TaLoN]

He hired a prostitue, this isn’t murder - the NHL is simply a business. Do you believe every person who has ever committed a crime of any kind should be banned from owning a business? How about stock, should every criminal be forced to liquidate every share they own, or only not allowed to own the whole thing? What the dude did was creepy, but on the whole a very minor thing.

Matthews’ broke the law mooning that cop - should he banned from the NHL? Or do you believe in different standards for players/owners? How minor/major does the crime have to be before you’re no longer allowed to work in the NHL? For me personally the crime would have to be significantly more egregious before saying he’s no longer allowed to associate with the NHL.

Never said he should be banned from owning a business, but it's not my decision. I just know the guy acted like a POS as a person with power.

The NHL has standards of conduct (something they all agreed upon themselves), if THEY feel he doesn't meet that standard, it's up to them to decide if he can retain the PRIVILEGE of being one of the small group of people who own a NHL franchise.

Because she was a couple months shy of being 18, so it’s basically your standard sex trafficking case being portrayed into a child prostitution case which is obviously going to sound way worse.

Sorry, but sex trafficking itself is a terrible thing. 17 or 18 is inconsequential. This guy is a POS involved with and supporting sex trafficking.

 

[Sweetpotato]

The guy is just all kinds of creepy. He's had so much plastic surgery he now looks like a wax troll doll.

We'll likely never know the extent or the truth but it'd be nice if people like him were not associated with the game I love.

Just to clear that up, not that it matters but, his face is disfigured because of an infection that nearly took his life.

 

[snag]

There's this little thing in society called the law. He broke it.

If you are gonna cite law and be some purveyor of it you have to also give the benefit of due process.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

Because she was a couple months shy of being 18, so it’s basically your standard sex trafficking case being portrayed into a child prostitution case which is obviously going to sound way worse.

"Standard sex trafficking case?"

Child prostitution may sound worse but it's not like sex trafficking is somehow better or should be considered run of the mill.

 

[67 others]

There's this little thing in society called the law. He broke it.

If you think the law is unjust? This isn't the place to discuss that (this is not and will not be a political forum). This is the place to discuss NHL related matters, and currently this guy, who works in the NHL, can't follow the laws within the society he is choosing to live.

The Victim in this case says Katz has nothing to do with it and nothing happened, and she is suing the Buttons, not Katz.

The Buttons(the ones 7 Young women have come out saying sexually abused them) , have complained about media scrutiny ruining their dance business, used a 3rd party lawsuit to try to involve Katz to take the media heat off themselves.

The buttons say that "She approached us the day she turned 18 and we began a 3 way sexual relationship with her, completely consensual and she started it, but we knew she was an underaged prostitute previously and her mother helped her hide the money!"

Like, I don't know much, but if both the Victim and the 3rd party accused(Katz) are saying "This is BS", I don't know how far an investigation can go here.

Essentially, this is like Harvey Weinstein saying "im innocent of my charges, but this guy Katz paid this girl for a ballerina film project from this legit Studio that does Film projects he owns, I am sure it was for sex!"

Is it possible? Sure. But i doubt they are going to be able to prove it if those texts were the worst things they could dig up after controlling 100% of her phone, social media and life for years

 

[Zerotonine]

Damn I didn’t know HF posters did this much homework. Good job

It's pretty common knowledge, why was maxwell case lock tight court room amd heard and Depp a live broadcast? Not hear to convince you or why one of anything you can believe what you like.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

If this was some random guy, I feel like a lot of people would have a less "due process is my favourite thing" and more of a "throw away the key" attitude who are currently defending rich hockey guy.

 

[Frank Drebin]

If this was some random guy, I feel like a lot of people would have a less "due process is my favourite thing" and more of a "throw away the key" attitude who are currently defending rich hockey guy.

Might be because it's common to extort rich people? Not saying that's what happened here but let's not pretend that Daryl Katz is some hf darling