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So does Northwestern just slap an interim tag on one of the current coaches & essentially roll with the same staff minus Fitzgerald for this upcoming season?

Like normally it wouldn’t be a question that was the move & it very well could still be the case. But what do you do with the other coaches who’ve been there long enough & could have involvement? Do you just pin it all on Fitzgerald & assume the media moved on now that Fitzgerald has been canned?
 
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The replies are a glorious bloodbath. Oh my God. :laugh:

LegionOfDoom91 said:
So does Northwestern just slap an interim tag on one of the current coaches & essentially roll with the same staff minus Fitzgerald for this upcoming season?

Like normally it wouldn’t be a question that was the move & it very well could still be the case. But what do you do with the other coaches who’ve been there long enough & could have involvement? Do you just pin it all on Fitzgerald & assume the media moved on now that Fitzgerald has been canned?
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Probably see how the year plays out and then go from there. They’ll just say it’s too late to make that many hires and ride with Braun as the recent outsider doing right.
 
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A more serious question is should Northwestern drop back and ask to join the Ivy League or even just drop athletics? Their baseball team also is under investigation.
 
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Northwestern is getting like $60M or whatever now a year with that escalating over the coming years just to be in the Big Ten. They’re going to stay as long as the Big Ten wants them.
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NW might need that $60M to help settle with Fitzgerald when they try to settle out of court with him.
NW has a few alums who try to push the athletic side of the school since there''s nothing else to do in the fall in Chicago on a Saturday except to go down to Rush Street and party. Da Bears take over on Sunday. It's an academic institution of the highest order; up there with the best schools in the U.S./world. They don't need the Athletic department dragging down the reputation of the school. They don't need the B1G just like Stanford doesn't need the PAC Whatever.
This NIL money has changed the athletic landscape and academic schools don't fit any more. Schools like those in the Ivy League, Stanford, NW and the like don't have the money to buy players for their teams like in the SEC. They need to focus on what they do better than most-educate. Be like MIT, Cal Tech, and the other brainiac schools. There probably more than a few schools who really need to rethink their viability in intercollegiate sports.
 
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NW might need that $60M to help settle with Fitzgerald when they try to settle out of court with him.
NW has a few alums who try to push the athletic side of the school since there''s nothing else to do in the fall in Chicago on a Saturday except to go down to Rush Street and party. Da Bears take over on Sunday. It's an academic institution of the highest order; up there with the best schools in the U.S./world. They don't need the Athletic department dragging down the reputation of the school. They don't need the B1G just like Stanford doesn't need the PAC Whatever.
This NIL money has changed the athletic landscape and academic schools don't fit any more. Schools like those in the Ivy League, Stanford, NW and the like don't have the money to buy players for their teams like in the SEC. They need to focus on what they do better than most-educate. Be like MIT, Cal Tech, and the other brainiac schools. There probably more than a few schools who really need to rethink their viability in intercollegiate sports.
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Dude they aren’t leaving that money on the table. No matter what the academic people think or any of those other factors. They’ll be there as long as the money is good & the money appears be good for the foreseeable future with the Big Ten.

These programs take out favorable loans when they have to pay out these lawsuits so it’s not like they’re paying all in one lump sum. So that doesn’t matter really either.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
Dude they aren’t leaving that money on the table. No matter what the academic people think or any of those other factors. They’ll be there as long as the money is good & the money appears be good for the foreseeable future with the Big Ten.

These programs take out favorable loans when they have to pay out these lawsuits so it’s not like they’re paying all in one lump sum. So that doesn’t matter really either.
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There have been, and will be more of in the future, situations where the student bodies sue to block paying fees out of the general funds to support the athletic departments. The athletic departments are far from running in the black even with the new television contracts that these super leagues are generating. If you are a student going to NW in the hopes of landing a position a lot in their med school so that you can become a neuro surgeon how much do you care who wins on Saturday? Especially when having that team kicks up the costs for your student loans to go to school? Look for more schools to kiss athletics good bye in the near future.
 
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There have been, and will be more of in the future, situations where the student bodies sue to block paying fees out of the general funds to support the athletic departments. The athletic departments are far from running in the black even with the new television contracts that these super leagues are generating. If you are a student going to NW in the hopes of landing a position a lot in their med school so that you can become a neuro surgeon how much do you care who wins on Saturday? Especially when having that team kicks up the costs for your student loans to go to school? Look for more schools to kiss athletics good bye in the near future.
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They literally built a $250M+ football facility just in recent years. If you think that they’re walking away from all this right now I don’t know what to tell you.
 
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LegionOfDoom91 said:
They literally built a $250M+ football facility just in recent years. If you think that they’re walking away from all this right now I don’t know what to tell you.
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They’re going to get a pretty damn good coach too. I know we talk often about what the best jobs in the country are, but that’s from a football perspective. With the B1G’s tv deal, this is going to be incredibly attractive to actual coaches. The money is going to be huge and the job security is super high if you can just avoid tripping over your own ****. Even stumbling on it is fine. Just don’t go ass over tea kettle.
 
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They’re going to get a pretty damn good coach too. I know we talk often about what the best jobs in the country are, but that’s from a football perspective. With the B1G’s tv deal, this is going to be incredibly attractive to actual coaches. The money is going to be huge and the job security is super high if you can just avoid tripping over your own ****. Even stumbling on it is fine. Just don’t go ass over tea kettle.
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Don’t get me wrong I think programs like Oregon, Washington, etc. eventually end up in the Big Ten when the dust settles. But they’re not in the Big Ten currently because the Big Ten is saying no to them at the moment.

So being in the Big Ten (as well as the SEC) as things currently stand is a big perk. Northwestern has been there the entire ride in the last few decades as the Big Ten has separated themselves from the pack with the SEC in terms of wealth/power collecting those big tv checks that keep rocketing up.

Not that the tv money goes into the facilities & stuff but there’s a reason why all these Big Ten programs have been & are continuing to invest into their football programs this last decade plus. The Big Ten 15 or so years ago was like an old country club like organization all across the board. Those days are over. Even the teams towards the bottom are moving along at faster pace.
 
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Don’t get me wrong I think programs like Oregon, Washington, etc. eventually end up in the Big Ten when the dust settles. But they’re not in the Big Ten currently because the Big Ten is saying no to them at the moment.

So being in the Big Ten (as well as the SEC) as things currently stand is a big perk. Northwestern has been there the entire ride in the last few decades as the Big Ten has separated themselves from the pack with the SEC in terms of wealth/power collecting those big tv checks that keep rocketing up.

Not that the tv money goes into the facilities & stuff but there’s a reason why all these Big Ten programs have been & are continuing to invest into their football programs this last decade plus. The Big Ten 15 or so years ago was like an old country club like organization all across the board. Those days are over. Even the teams towards the bottom are moving along at faster pace.
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The Big Ten seems like it actually means the academic propaganda more than the SEC does too. Most of these Michigan boosters REALLY care about it for example.

When you combine Northwestern being an excellent school willing to put money into the program and it being in the Chicago media market, I think they're genuinely valued. Even in a two Super Conference football world, I think they'd make the cut. They feel safe forever.
 
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Tennessee must vacate all 11 wins from '19, '20

Tennessee must vacate all 11 of the Volunteers' wins from the 2019 and 2020 seasons under former coach Jeremy Pruitt as part of the NCAA's penalties stemming from recruiting violations during his three-year tenure, school officials told ESPN on Saturday.
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OH MY GAWD. WHAT A DISASTER!

That 8-5 season with a gator bowl win in 2019... GONE
The 3-7 record in 2020. Those 3 precious wins... GONE

toothless ncaa
 
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Tennessee must vacate all 11 wins from '19, '20

Tennessee must vacate all 11 of the Volunteers' wins from the 2019 and 2020 seasons under former coach Jeremy Pruitt as part of the NCAA's penalties stemming from recruiting violations during his three-year tenure, school officials told ESPN on Saturday.
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OH MY GAWD. WHAT A DISASTER!

That 8-5 season with a gator bowl win in 2019... GONE
The 3-7 record in 2020. Those 3 precious wins... GONE

toothless ncaa
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Well, the NCAA did kind of hammer them (aside from the vacated wins that no one actually cares about).

8 million dollar fine, a reduction of roughly 5 scholarships a year (28 in total over 5 years), a huge reduction in OV's, unofficial visits, and permissible communication with recruits. For all intents and purposes, they're going to be significantly hampered in recruiting for the next five years. That's pretty prohibitive considering they compete directly against like 6 or 7 of the top 10 recruiting spenders annually for players in their own conference/region.

Given that it's a completely different AD, football staff, supporting staff and like 90% of the players, I'd say it's pretty rough compared to some of the more recent NCAA wheel of justice decisions.
 
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