OT: NBA Discussion Thread: Part IV

[Cassano]

Knicks' Kanter meets with GM over lesser role

This clown should've been traded last year.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Kurucs has cooled off in a big way.

Eh, definitely somewhat the last couple of games prior to this evening (both losses), but I wouldn’t say in a BIG way. He wasn’t as sharp on offense for sure, but Atkinson was still relying on him a great deal defensively. Remember, he’s a rookie who’s been getting tons of burn, after essentially not playing for two years. I think it’s caught up to him a bit.

And while he wasn’t as dominant as he was 3-4 games ago, he showed good flashes tonight against the Pelicans—scored 10 points and had a block on AD.

 

[cgf]

I can’t be the only one who wants nothing to do with Barrett, can I? The mamba mentality without the mamba skillset is about the most damning prospect description I can imagine & that’s exactly RJ has been with Zion taking away his shine.

That’s the last kind of guy I want next to KP, Knox, any max cat we might land, and the supporting cast kids (Frank, Mitch, Dot, Zo & Kornet). So gimme Culver, Little, Hunter or Morant over RJ, if we miss out on Zion, without a doubt.

 

[Cassano]

I can’t be the only one who wants nothing to do with Barrett, can I? The mamba mentality without the mamba skillset is about the most damning prospect description I can imagine & that’s exactly RJ has been with Zion taking away his shine.

That’s the last kind of guy I want next to KP, Knox, any max cat we might land, and the supporting cast kids (Frank, Mitch, Dot, Zo & Kornet). So gimme Culver, Little, Hunter or Morant over RJ, if we miss out on Zion, without a doubt.

Couldn't agree more.

 

[darko]

Morant needs to improve his shot.

 

[17futurecap]

Morant needs to improve his shot.

Ugly numbers from the college 3, which is an NBA jump shot.

 

[darko]

Ugly numbers from the college 3, which is an NBA jump shot.

Yup. It's a concern.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I’m glad the Nets have Marks plus the scouts they have, who’ve found guys like LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs well after the lottery, because to the untrained eye, outside of Zion this year’s crop of draft picks seems like it’s all projects and suspects...

 

[darko]

I’m glad the Nets have Marks plus the scouts they have, who’ve found guys like LeVert, Allen, and Kurucs well after the lottery, because to the untrained eye, outside of Zion this year’s crop of draft picks seems like it’s all projects and suspects...

Dion is more suspect than his 2 teammates in Barrett and Reddish.

 

[cgf]

Dion is more suspect than his 2 teammates in Barrett and Reddish.

If RJ didn’t forget how to pass when he arrived at Duke & Cam could score inside the arc, you might have a point.

 

[Cassano]

Knox amazing 1st quarter again so far

 

[East Coast Bias]

Knox amazing 1st quarter again so far

It's kinda strange how he dominates 1st Qs then kinda fades. He's doing it against other team starters.

But it's a work in progress and I'll take it for now.

 

[17futurecap]

Stupid Lebron sitting out hurting the Knicks tank.

 

[cgf]

Stupid Lebron sitting out hurting the Knicks tank.

I don't mind having definitive proof that our kids minus KP & our 1st > their kids minus LeBron

 

[BroadwayBlues]

I think it's a combination of fatigue (19 y/o playing a ton of minuets) and being phased out by his teammates (Mudiay) as the game goes on.

 

[cgf]

I think it's a combination of fatigue (19 y/o playing a ton of minuets) and being phased out by his teammates (Mudiay) as the game goes on.

Yeah...another piece of it is that Hardaway has made a concerted effort of getting baby Kevin involved early in a lot of games, before focusing on his own scoring & forgetting that he’s not a bad playmaker when he remembers to do it.

A lot of what’s holding Knox back from putting together 30 minutes as good as his first 8-10 seem like things that should be fixed with better team-mates, better offensive structure, his own physical development, and experience.

 

[sbjnyc]

Stupid Lebron sitting out hurting the Knicks tank.

Beating the Lakers in LA is a good thing.

 

[cgf]

Beating the Lakers in LA is a good thing.

Yeah. I wish we had done it because Knox dropped an efficient 30; Mitch almost hit a triple-double with blocks; Frank hit 3 3s, got to the line 4+ times, had 8+ assists, 4+ steals, and a couple of blocks; Dot & Kornet combined to go 6/10 from 3 or better; but I can't be mad at this win.

I mean we've almost locked up a bottom 5 finish already and the drop in lotto odds from the top 3 to 4/5 isn't very significant. So I have zero qualms with the team peppering in a win once every blue-moon to keep morale up.

 

[GordonGecko]

I can't see the Knicks doing what it takes to tank as hard as those other pathetic loser teams. They're going to finish in the bottom 4-5 range

 

[East Coast Bias]

I can't see the Knicks doing what it takes to tank as hard as those other pathetic loser teams. They're going to finish in the bottom 4-5 range

Odds changed a lot for this year.

This is the year we probably finish with the worst record and go from having 25% to 14% odds.

last year

1. 250 combinations, 25.0% chance of receiving the No. 1 pick
2. 199 combinations, 19.9% chance
3. 156 combinations, 15.6% chance
4. 119 combinations, 11.9% chance
5. 88 combinations, 8.8% chance

This year

1. 140 combinations, 14.0% chance of receiving the No. 1 pick
2. 140 combinations, 14.0% chance
3. 140 combinations, 14.0% chance
4. 125 combinations, 12.5% chance
5. 105 combinations, 10.5% chance

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Meanwhile, the Nets are tied for the best record in the league over the last month, one game under .500 and in the 7th playoff position.

(Tough game coming up tonight in Boston on a road back-to-back, however.)

 

[cgf]

I can't see the Knicks doing what it takes to tank as hard as those other pathetic loser teams. They're going to finish in the bottom 4-5 range

Good thing this year the odds have been flattened for the bottom 5

 

[GordonGecko]

This is the year we probably finish with the worst record

Again, I can't see how it's humanly possible for this team to suck as bad as the cavs suns and bulls. And serious F the cavs if they get zion it would be like the Penguins all over again

 

[GordonGecko]

Good thing this year the odds have been flattened for the bottom 5

Yeah that's the saving grace. But if they want to halt tanking they need to give all the bottom dozen teams even odds at the #1 pick

 

[cgf]

Yeah that's the saving grace. But if they want to halt tanking they need to give all the bottom dozen teams even odds at the #1 pick

The did that for the bottom 3, and the drop from them to 4 is minuscule. Hell the 5th worst team has almost as good of odds at the top pick as the 2nd worst team in the NHL.