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I Eat Crow
Fear The Mullet
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Today's trade for Harden proves to me that the Nets franchise has learned absolutely nothing after mortgaging their future to acquire Garnett and Pierce at the end of their careers. Harden isn't similar at all by any means, but the idea is the same. They were finally building a decent team through the draft and now it's all gone.
At least they're not the Knicks and players still want to go there.
At least they're not the Knicks and players still want to go there.
RangerBlues
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17futurecap
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RJ couldn’t shoot at Duke, not really surprising he can’t shoot in the NBA.
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Change is good.
I think it could turn out well for us IF (massive if) Kyrie and Harden are motivated. Starting 5 is the best in the league if that happens. The guys you mentioned look good and Claxton looked good in limited minutes last year and will be back from injury soon. He’ll be a solid backup to Jordan. Dinwiddie is such a key depth player on this team now going forward, hope he comes back strong next season.
mrmovies779
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- Feb 5, 2013
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Someone should inform the Nets you can only have 1 basketball on the court at any time.This trade makes absolute 0 sense to me
As you said, it's not really the same situation. Harden is still in his prime, Garnett and Pierce were out of theirs.
You make that trade for Harden all day and every day.
A very solid chance they'll get 1-2 rings or so out of it, definitely worth it.
Tell that to Miami who had Lebron, Wade, and Bosh at one point. Or Golden State with KD, Curry, Klay, and Draymond at one point.
Talent is talent. It may take a bit of time, but they'll find a way to make it work. The Nets just made it so they will sleepwalk to the finals now and may even win. Though, I will say that I still think the Lakers are a better team top to bottom depth-wise and defensively (as of now). But the Nets have a great chance of getting 1-2 rings now.
Brooklyn Rangers Fan
Change is good.
What's Claxton's timeline? I haven't seen any mention recently that he was close...
Nash said a couple of weeks at the beginning of January, but I guess it could end up being longer.
Kyrie expected to play tomorrow per Woj. I don't mind him taking a game off here or there, the NBA season is long and when you have a team as good as the Nets, all that matters is how you perform in the playoffs. But hopefully these extended breaks are a thing of the past.
RangerBlues
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What's up with the Knicks? A buddy told me they were decent so I started looking at them and they had lost like four or five in a row. Now I see they're ravaging Boston. Is the team decent or nah? Don't really follow the NBA beyond headlines.
East Coast Bias
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they’re rebuilding. Finally. They have some decent young guys. They’ve looked much better with a real coach this season. but I wouldn’t mistake them for more than they are. They won’t be making any playoff runs. They’re probably bottom 5 team in terms of talent.
JimmyG89
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Right, they'll need to continue developing the pieces in place and will need to find a player that will likely be in the 8-12 range of this draft coming up. Thibs will keep them out of the depths of the lottery, but you're looking at a team that could be in the play in games for the 7 or 8 seed.
Quickley could expedite their building, as having a true PG that can produce is a big piece in this league. Not even at an elite level, but as a good starting point guard. You can see that in him. He's not just a shooter or scorer, but he does have the ability to set players up with open shots. The next step behind that is finding a legit backup behind him. I don't think that player is on the roster currently.
Maximus
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I said it a few weeks ago...my mancrush for Quickley is starting to get into the "uncomfortable" stage...lol
RangerBlues
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Quickley has shown more in a handful of games than Ntilikina in three years.
Safe to say Frank is a bust
Safe to say Frank is a bust
JimmyG89
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It might fall on deaf ears for a lot of the players coming into the NBA, but having two seasons in the NCAA can do wonders for prospects. Quickley didn't run from college after a year. You can learn a lot instead of jumping from HS ball to 30ish NCAA games into the NBA.
It's not the rule for all, but I almost wish the NCAA would apply the football rule they have for basketball. Tell these kids to go back to school, you're not a 1st rounder or lottery pick. Football does it for the top 3 rounds for undergrads. It would greatly improve the NCAA and the NBA when those players get to the league
ponzu4u
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Instead they're literally about to do the opposite. I think the idea is to build up the D league as a true developmental league and actually let these kids make some money.
JimmyG89
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It's not a bad idea either. Could become like the major junior leagues for hockey, but players that go the NCAA route should be getting impartial advice when it comes to making the jump to the pros.
Maximus
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I know the Warriors aren't the Warriors of old obviously but still tho, the way the Knicks, matter of factly ho hum beat them last night in their barn was quite impressive. Ho hum wins just don't happen for this team EVER!.
Looks like the worm is turning folks. Most nights you are getting contributions from pretty much everyone and not just one or two guys as past Knick teams were built is most refreshing. Dare I say the Knicks are actually fun too watch!
As of this moment in time, Knicks are sitting in the 8 spot and would make the playoffs if it were held today. I can't remember the last time the Knicks were ever in a playoff spot let alone 16 or so games in...lol
What's really nice is that every night you can count on the Knicks playing hard nosed defense and that will keep you in most games even if you don't win them. Coach Tib has this team on the right track for sure.
I dunno boyz...I hardly recognize this team anymore and I'm loving it.
Looks like the worm is turning folks. Most nights you are getting contributions from pretty much everyone and not just one or two guys as past Knick teams were built is most refreshing. Dare I say the Knicks are actually fun too watch!
As of this moment in time, Knicks are sitting in the 8 spot and would make the playoffs if it were held today. I can't remember the last time the Knicks were ever in a playoff spot let alone 16 or so games in...lol
What's really nice is that every night you can count on the Knicks playing hard nosed defense and that will keep you in most games even if you don't win them. Coach Tib has this team on the right track for sure.
I dunno boyz...I hardly recognize this team anymore and I'm loving it.
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Maximus
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Yeah I'm with ya. I miss the days when you can watch college hoop games and actually know who the players were year after year. Not sure how old you are but back in the 80's and even into the 90's, for example, there was nothing more intense around these parts than St.Johns vs Geogetown...nothing!. College basketball was never better than what it was from the 80's thru maybe 2000 not just the Big East but around the country IMO.
I couldn't name one player on St. John's this year if you asked me. Ask me same question in the 80's-90's not only would I give you the entire Johnnies team, but I'd likely be able to give you the starting lineups for every other team in the Big East including the Boston College's, Providence's of the world...lol
And alot of the reason for that was that players stayed in school all 4 years and bigtime rivalries were born between the players and of course the fan bases. You didn't have to be an alumni of St. Johns to have some good ole fashioned hate going on for John Thompson, Ewing, Mourning, Mutumbo, Wingate...etc....basically anything having to do with Georgetown you couldn't stand.
And no doubt in my mind as I just said, that had alot to do with the fact the players stayed in school.
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Adam Fox Time
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Knicks goal as a franchise right now is just to lose the stigma that they've had for awhile now and get players to want to play for them. That is going well so far. I wanted them to get #1 overall before but I don't really care about that anymore. I just want them to play well and draft good players until they become a top free agent destination. I think a great free agent signing plus a big trade will lead the Knicks to a championship, same as the Lakers just did and the Nets are trying to do now.
