The Winter Soldier
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Just to be clear, since I think you missed it, I said some, not you declaring him a #1C. Good post.
Nazem Kadri - Part 3
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Just to be clear, since I think you missed it, I said some, not you declaring him a #1C. Good post.
Super Mega
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First line shouldn't be touched
Lupul - Kadri - Clarkson should work as a 2nd, I dunno I love Kulemin but would like to see a change to 2nd line and dont want to see mayray up either
clarkson for cycle, boardplay, net presence/tips, kadri feeding lupul in high scoring areas, clarkson picking up trash
it sucks to pair kadri with 2 slumping guys but this looks like the best option to me.
ULF_55
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Maybe try Bolland with Kadri, a RH shot.
Depending on where the face-off is Kadri or Bolland could take it.
Lupul-Kadri-Bolland
Mess
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Kadri was most successful statistically when he was a 3rd line player, and facing equal opposition.
JVR -- Bozak -- Kessel
Lupul -- Bolland -- Clarkson
Raymond -- Kadri -- Kulemin
JVR -- Bozak -- Kessel
Lupul -- Bolland -- Clarkson
Raymond -- Kadri -- Kulemin
The Winter Soldier
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I would not mind this, but let's make it.
Clarkson, Bolland, Kadri
Lupul, Kulemin, Raymond
Kessel, Bozak, JVR
LeafOfBread
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Come on now, Ron Wilson forced Kadri on the wing and we all saw how it neutered his game. His style of play is not meant for the wing.
why would you play 2 players out of position when it isnt needed?
kadri is a center and kulemin is a winger. kulemin only played center out of necessity. all things equal we are better off having bolland at center, kadri at center, and kulmein at wing.
clarkson doesnt have the ability to keep up with kadri which is why they dont work imo.
i personally think kadri is beyond getting sheltered minutes at this point but if he did i would think the line would be raymond-kadri-kulemin. imo it is a waste, i think kadri can get lupul going far more then bolland can.
I don't understand why the lines are changing at all. We are in the midst of our hottest stretch of the season. Minimal changes should be made.
JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin
Raymon-Bolland-Clarkson
McLaren/Orr-McClement-Bodie
Simple.
JVR-Bozak-Kessel
Lupul-Kadri-Kulemin
Raymon-Bolland-Clarkson
McLaren/Orr-McClement-Bodie
Simple.
Who did he play with initially when he was on the third line? I don't remember. Wasn't Lupul out at the time and only put with Kadri after Grabovski was demoted?
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Diatomic
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Why would you demote him to the 3rd line when he's practically carrying that 2nd line since Lupul has slumped tremendously. He's been over PPG in his last 10 games playing 2nd line but we should give an injured and rusty David Bolland 2nd line time while one of our best offensive players plays 14minutes a night?
Why would you demote him to the 3rd line when he's practically carrying that 2nd line since Lupul has slumped tremendously. He's been over PPG in his last 10 games playing 2nd line but we should give an injured and rusty David Bolland 2nd line time while one of our best offensive players plays 14minutes a night?
Don't really think of it as lines "2" or "3".
Kessel's line is the main offensive line.
Bolland's line(probably with Kulemin) plays against the other teams top line.
Kadri's line plays in between.
Fourth line just spots in for a couple shifts.
In this setup, lines 2 & 4 have specific roles to play. Lines 1 and 3 can play similar minutes, or minutes based off of who's hot that night.
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Mitch Matthewlander
I get what your saying but I'm not contempt with him playing the inevitable 13-15 minutes a night as his did last year. Putting him on the 3rd line with lesser offensive players is like a slap to the face
Mess
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Why would you demote him to the 3rd line when he's practically carrying that 2nd line since Lupul has slumped tremendously. He's been over PPG in his last 10 games playing 2nd line but we should give an injured and rusty David Bolland 2nd line time while one of our best offensive players plays 14minutes a night?
Not immediately as I expect Bolland to take some time getting his timing and conditioning back.
This is the playoff formation.
This is taking a step back in Kadri's development, he needs to play against stronger competition, just match Kadri's line against the top or second line. Bolland/Kuli can take advantage of shutdown line (either both lines get shutdown or we give our most offensive lines a chance to score.)
I wouldn't play him with lesser offensive players. He could keep Lupul on the left side and his right winger hasn't been consistant anyway. Lupul has no business on a shutdown line anyway.
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The Winter Soldier
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This is more to facilitate Kulemin at Center, I really like what I have seen in him, and having him as a #3C gives us 3 strong Centers down the middle that are very defensively responsible. The inspiration comes from watching Team Canada, there no Center scored until the gold medal game.
Trying to copy what might be the greatest team ever assembled that played 6 games in a single-elimination tournament probably isn't the best idea.
Bolland isnt seeing 2nd line duty until kadri starts to struggle.
Last year, when kadri started playing against 2nd line players, he struggled. Now he is flourishing playing against 2nd line people. Kadri is doing well in his development and dropping him to third hurts it.
Bolland should be 3rd line C. Nothing more at this point
Last year, when kadri started playing against 2nd line players, he struggled. Now he is flourishing playing against 2nd line people. Kadri is doing well in his development and dropping him to third hurts it.
Bolland should be 3rd line C. Nothing more at this point
Does that make Kadri the Chris Kunitz of our team? Given golden opportunity and the best linemates possible not because they were earned, but because hey, why not? Sounds like Kadri, put him on the first line because hey, why not? He's a legend in the making I'm sure.
The lengths you go to...
Who are you even talking about? I don't see anyone wanting Kadri on the first line.
FlareKnight
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Considering Bolland is just coming back (assuming he's good to go Thursday), it hardly makes sense to move him up to the second line. Who knows if he even gets close to being the guy we had in the first part of the season before the year is over.
Best to keep running with Kadri on the second line. He has been producing and should just make minimal adjustments as we have guys back in the lineup.
Best to keep running with Kadri on the second line. He has been producing and should just make minimal adjustments as we have guys back in the lineup.
Duke Silver
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Yep. The Leafs will be keeping Bolland's minutes very low, with no PK time, starting off.
He's more likely to start on the 4th line than he is the 2nd.
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Kadri remains second line center, no questions asked. It would be a backwards regime to move him back to 3rd line center, he's evolved past that already. Raymond-Bolland-Kulemin is an excellent third line anyway, possibly one of the best in the leauge if played to potential, especially if Bolland and Raymond find their chemistry from earlier this season. To clear up the arguments earlier in this thread, the Leafs center depth went Bozak-Grabo-Kadri last year for around the first 15-20 games, after that mark Kadri took over second line duties and Grabo was struggling badly, and Kadri took the spot and ran away with it to say the least.
As for the second line, just chill out people, it will all be fine. Lupul WILL find his game eventually, and when he does, that line will look better than other teams' first lines. I'm so excited to see this team firing on all cylinders, even Boston and Pittsburgh will be scared of facing us!
As for the second line, just chill out people, it will all be fine. Lupul WILL find his game eventually, and when he does, that line will look better than other teams' first lines. I'm so excited to see this team firing on all cylinders, even Boston and Pittsburgh will be scared of facing us!
