GDT: Nashville @ Montreal March 2nd (Expect line changes from time of posting)

[sheed36]

So before the anthems. Cool.

They'll present February's Molson cup winner to Pacioretty after the PK tribute video I thought they said. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

 

[417]

Because he was loved and admired too much by fans?

Because he became bigger than the team...not necessarily through his own fault, or that he did anything wrong mind you.

Very important you read that last part...

But can you imagine being say...Carey Price tonight, and hearing chants of PK! PK! PK! as he's skating full steam ahead towards you?

Imagine being any Habs player.

I was and still am a huge PK Subban fan...but at some point, his success became more important than the teams, his image became more important than the team, everything related to him relegated the rest of the team to the background.

and again, I think that's a big reason why he was traded.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Hehe show us someone who actually said that, ever.

It's pretty clear when some are cheering for Nashville tonight?

 

[habtastic]

“I play for the crest on the front of the jersey. I embrace everything about this city. I love it. I’ve remained adamant of bringing a Stanley Cup and having it get back here since the day I got drafted, and that’s my focus every year" - PK Subban, Feb. 2016.

I am honestly wondering -- this is not an indictment of Weber or criticism of his leadership style -- but has he ever expressed his commitment to the organization, city, and winning a Cup here?

This is a combination of me being ignorant on interviews he's done + he doesn't really put it out there as much as PK did.

I miss PK's dedication so much. It would be easier to get behind Weber if I knew that he wasn't just playing out his contract, particularly of late, when I can only assume he's injured. Last 3 games have been ok.

 

[417]

Fans loved Richard. Fans loved Béliveau. Fans loved Lafleur. Fans loved Roy. Fans loved Koivu. Fans loved Subban. And fans love Price.

Seems like fans love great players, or players that define the franchise.

Maybe the perceived problematic of Subban becoming bigger than the team wouldn't have been too much of a problematic had the team made the steps to regain its greatness at any point over the past two decades.

Ironically enough, Subban's probably the guy that strived to accomplish that the most over that time frame.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote here, you're 100% right

Still doesn't change my point though...he became bigger than the Montreal Canadiens (again, not necessarily through something he did negatively).

 

[deandebean]

Sensitive people here. Fans can cheer and scream what they want! If they want to go with the PK chant, so be it. Without those 21,000 fans paying more than anybody here for 40 somewhat games, there wouldn't be a Club de hockey Canadien. So they can have fun. All they want.

 

[loudi94]

Are you serious?

I realize that younger people operate on different timelines but 6 years isn't a long time unless you're a dog. Go through the list of Habs players over the years. Tell me which players have served the sweater for as long, if not more only to come back with little to no fanfare. There are players with their names in the rafters that didn't get the press that this event is getting.

Play the game and let's move on please.

 

[Chili]

finally the return of PA!

Folks could get po'ed with all the PR about PK and PA's return.

 

[Frankenheimer]

PK won the Norris and for a time was considered top 2 along with Karlsson when he was wrecking people with hits, winning big games with spectacular goals, and racking up points. Even Karlsson tipped his hat to PK. He obviously went through a tough stretch but to deny the fact he was viewed this way league wide for a time is revisionist. I'm still happy with the trade though because I do think he took up a lot space needed to create a unified team.

Pk was exciting. And the city hungered for that kind of skill.

 

[sandviper]

Pretty simple for me...

You're either with us, or against us.

I still am a big PK Subban fan, I hope he does well against every team in the NHL, EXCEPT the Montreal Canadiens.

I'm not saying everyone should think like me...just stating, I don't understand how anyone DOESN'T think like me, that's a Habs fan.

I always thought this was what separated us from other fanbases, perhaps I give/gave us too much credit.

I think any sensible fan can say this. I love McDavid and want to see him win the Art Ross but I hope he gets blanked out every game against us. If there were to be a scenario where he and say Price are in the running for the Hart, of course I want Price to win.

Sure, it might be weird for fans to chant PK when he has the puck or on the PP but I have no doubt there will be multiple standing Os during the tribute and perhaps pre and post game. I also think there will be a very loud and respectable cheer if he should score. And you know what, I got no issue with it as he deserves it for everything he's done for the team and the city. I'd be happier if we won 6-1 but I also think it's ok to have favorites even when they play us. Just don't kill us and I'll still like you as a player

 

[MXD]

Yes. Unlimited as long as you respect the salary cap.

Thanks. Makes lots of sense.

I hope PK is received well, and he will be no doubt...once the game starts, I would rather hear Carey, Carey, Carey...............we do not need the fans doing a PK PK chant, he is no longer a Hab...not his fault, I get that, but home ice and it's our team, let's hope they show it!!

Loved PK when he was here, wish he still was in many ways, but he is gone folks...Therrien, Bergevin and Molson are all responsible, and most of us will never forgive them, but nothing will ever be bigger than my support for the Habs, no matter who owns the team, manages the team, or coach's the team....

Let's hope the Habs can win in regulation tonight!!

You've never struck me as somebody I agree a lot with, but your post above captures my feeling very well.

Words cannot express my disappointment in Ott not being in the lineup tonight.

Ehhh... Words cannot express my disappointment at somebody even remotely thinking Steve Ott should play one more NHL game at this point.

Personally i wont even be mad if we lose this one.

GO Team Subban GO

The above.... is probably exactly why he was traded.
You are the issue, and the worst is, you don't even realize it.

Per Sean Campbell on TSN690.. The PK video will be at 7:34 and they've allotted 2 minutes.

Kewl.

enjoy
just dont throw bananas

If that happens, I suspect foul play from Bruins fans in disguise. Or Sens fans with still micro-shattered hopes.

6 full seasons in Montreal and he gets a tribute video? It's not a stretch to say he became bigger than the team. Davey was here just as long, will he get one next season if he manages to come back in another team's uniform?

Are you Serious?
Hell, I strongly suspect DD will get a vid if he's ever back!

 

[417]

Sensitive people here. Fans can cheer and scream what they want! If they want to go with the PK chant, so be it. Without those 21,000 fans paying more than anybody here for 40 somewhat games, there wouldn't be a Club de hockey Canadien. So they can have fun. All they want.

Sure...they can do what they want

But there's a reaction to everything.

Would love to know what's going through Carey's mind as PK is rushing the puck up the ice and fans are cheering PK PK PK!

I'm sure that will go over well with him and his teammates...

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Been looking forward to this game all year

Can't wait, hopefully PK gets a huge cheer, he deserves it big time!

 

[groovejuice]

It's pretty clear when some are cheering for Nashville tonight?

There might be a few, I guess. I saw one poster who distinguished this game from a playoff game. I think a lot of the polarization is from fans who despise the way PK was treated, and is more of a FU to current management than a preference over the team they've been cheering for their whole lives.

I'll be rooting for PK to play well, but for the Habs to win.

 

[MXD]

I am honestly wondering -- this is not an indictment of Weber or criticism of his leadership style -- but has he ever expressed his commitment to the organization, city, and winning a Cup here?

This is a combination of me being ignorant on interviews he's done + he doesn't really put it out there as much as PK did.

I don't think so, but I don't think that's his style to every say something like that infront of the cameras either.

 

[Genesis76]

Hehe show us someone who actually said that, ever.

Hes definitly greater than CH, you can definitlyc count me as one to have said it.

 

[1909]

it is obvious that 90% of the posters here wants PK and the Preds to beat the Habs badly tonight. They want Weber to finish with a -4, and PK to have 3-4 points at least.

They want MB to melt on his seat.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Je suis PK

 

[Lebowski]

I don't disagree with anything you wrote here, you're 100% right

Still doesn't change my point though...he became bigger than the Montreal Canadiens (again, not necessarily through something he did negatively).

I don't disagree that Subban was becoming bigger than the team. How much of the blame can be put on the media, that had been slinging dirt at him and making him the headline of every sports report for years going back to his 1st contract dispute?

There was this narrative being pushed by the media that largely contributed to make the Subban fiasco what it was. He's always been a polarizing figure and they cashed in on that. The team could have squelched that noise by openly supporting PK and running with the ball instead of having that confrontational attitude from the get go. The organization is at fault for antagonizing Subban with part of the fan base, and you know as well as I do that the more sensitive the subject, and the more openly debated it becomes, the more you'll see people get entrenched in their views. That's how Subban ended up with a bunch of rabid fans, and a bunch of irrational haters.

And that's on the organization, a 100%. The entire notion that Subban and his brand were outshining the franchise is because the franchise, under Molson, Bergevin and Therrien's tenure, have seemingly done everything in their power to tarnish the image of this team.

 

[417]

it is obvious that 90% of the posters here wants PK and the preds to beat the Habs badly tonight. They want Weber to finish with a -4, and PK to have 3-4 points at least.

I don't think it's 90%, at least I'd like to think not...

But either way, even 1% is too much for me

 

[1909]

Been looking forward to this game all year

Can't wait, hopefully PK gets a huge cheer, he deserves it big time!

He doesn't deserve to be booed. That's for sure.

 

[Habs 4 Life]

It's pretty clear when some are cheering for Nashville tonight?

No doubt about it. I actually expect to see lots of Preds jerseys in attendance, no joke!

 

[Lebowski]

I realize that younger people operate on different timelines but 6 years isn't a long time unless you're a dog. Go through the list of Habs players over the years. Tell me which players have served the sweater for as long, if not more only to come back with little to no fanfare. There are players with their names in the rafters that didn't get the press that this event is getting.

Play the game and let's move on please.

I can tell you Subban was the first Hab to win a Norris trophy in over two decades. I can also tell you that he was arguably the best skater this team has had since their last cup win.

It's not hard to understand why Subban is getting a tribute video. Attempting to draw links between his tenure with the Habs and Desharnais' shows nothing but bad faith on your part.

And also... Subban has been part of the organization for nearly a decade.

 

[417]

I don't disagree that Subban was becoming bigger than the team. How much of the blame can be put on the media, that had been slinging dirt at him and making him the headline of every sports report for years going back to his 1st contract dispute?

There was this narrative being pushed by the media that largely contributed to make the Subban fiasco what it was. He's always been a polarizing figure and they cashed in on that. The team could have squelched that noise by openly supporting PK and running with the ball instead of having that confrontational attitude from the get go. The organization is at fault for antagonizing Subban with part of the fan base, and you know as well as I do that the more sensitive the subject, and the more openly debated it becomes, the more you'll see people get entrenched in their views. That's how Subban ended up with a bunch of rabid fans, and a bunch of irrational haters.

And that's on the organization, a 100%. The entire notion that Subban and his brand were outshining the franchise is because the franchise, under Molson, Bergevin and Therrien's tenure, have seemingly done everything in their power to tarnish the image of this team.

Again, agree with you 100%...but it still doesn't change the fact he became bigger than the Montreal Canadiens, agreed that the MOntreal Canadiens themselves and the media were largely responsible for it.

I don't think this was some strategy by PK Subban and his image consultants, but it's a result of it.

So it was inevitable that that was an association (PK and the Habs) that would eventually come to an end.

 

[deandebean]

Sure...they can do what they want

But there's a reaction to everything.

Would love to know what's going through Carey's mind as PK is rushing the puck up the ice and fans are cheering PK PK PK!

I'm sure that will go over well with him and his teammates...

Same as when the organisation was loathing Lafleur, owner included, and people were chanting his name. Or when, in the 50's, team was having a lousy game against a lousy team, and people started chanting 'Fixed'. Rocket got irate and practically won the game by himself.

If it lights a fire under their *****, good on the crowd.

Seriously, 417, you realllly must be from Ottawa to think that fans can't chant what they want...hehehehe...joke BTW.