GDT: Nashville @ Montreal March 2nd (Expect line changes from time of posting)

[MXD]

Bahahah... what??? what non sense man.

Ronaldo has a following of his own and hes eclipsing all the players combined on his team in terms of branding.

Do you see Madrid trying to transfer him?? HELL NO.

But you know they porbably should because they would make alot of money doing so.

But i guess they arent because they know the exposure and titles he brings are worth alot more.

And PK Brought... titles? I mean, CR is arguably the 2nd best player in the world. PK was arguably the 2nd best player on his team.

By telling me I'm writing nonsense... you don't realize it, but it really means that I make LOTS of sense.

 

[void]

Pacioretty vs. Subban

Can't wait.

 

[Lebowski]

Ronaldo is the greatest soccer player on the planet. Subban is not even a top-tem best NHL d-man.

I agree. Most definitely top 5.

 

[groovejuice]

Because he became bigger than the team...not necessarily through his own fault, or that he did anything wrong mind you.

Very important you read that last part...

But can you imagine being say...Carey Price tonight, and hearing chants of PK! PK! PK! as he's skating full steam ahead towards you?

Imagine being any Habs player.

I was and still am a huge PK Subban fan...but at some point, his success became more important than the teams, his image became more important than the team, everything related to him relegated the rest of the team to the background.

and again, I think that's a big reason why he was traded.

Carey Price is the kind of player and person who'd laugh behind his mask and make a spectacular save.

And sorry, I don't buy the bolded. That's a totally false narrative IMO. The cream of the NHL historically, put to shame by a singular player? Unimaginable. If the Habs' reputation is diminished in some way, it's from internal incompetence and failure. Nothing else.

 

[loudi94]

Only thing Saku has over Subban is longevity... And like it or not, but he was the face of a franchise that dwindled in mediocrity, even moreso than it is today, during his entire tenure as captain of the Habs.

And again, I love Saku. He was a great player. But Subban was and is a superstar.

I'm not opposed to some kind of recognition for PK. Just wish there to be some perspective. He's by no means a conquering hero making a triumphant return. A cog in the machine. The logo stood on its own before him and continues to do so without him.

 

[Adriatic]

Ronaldo is the greatest soccer player on the planet. Subban is not even a top-tem best NHL d-man.

I love how the PK fan club always tries to compare PK with Jordan, Kobe, Ronaldo, Messi like somehow if they repeat it enough people will think that he's on the same level as those athletes and should be revered the same way. Like relax, he was never and still isn't even the best player on his team. It's enough with the Ronaldo comparison.

 

[Joey]

Saku.

I was at Saku's first game back. They didn't really honour him. The fans voted him in as 3rd or 2nd star if I recall

 

[Lebowski]

I'm not opposed to some kind of recognition for PK. Just wish there to be some perspective. He's by no means a conquering hero making a triumphant return. A cog in the machine. The logo stood on its own before him and continues to do so without him.

I don't think anyone disagrees with that...

And you don't seem to disagree that a quick thank you video for Subban is warranted...

So what are we arguing exactly? Who meant more to the team between PK and Saku? That's a discussion for another thread.

 

[Charkey]

Cant wait till this game is over, so all the Subban trolls can crawl back up in their holes and let the real Montreal fan talk about real hockey issues.

 

[Frank Drebin]

I was at Saku's first game back. They didn't really honour him. The fans voted him in as 3rd or 2nd star if I recall

Saku was at the tail end of his career and more of a role player than anything IIRC. I'm sure they had a mini trubute mid game.

 

[SirClintonPortis]

I was at Saku's first game back. They didn't really honour him. The fans voted him in as 3rd or 2nd star if I recall

No, the 1st star went to Bobby Ryan because he scored the GWG in the shootout. Who ever scores the GWG in OT/SO was the auto 1st star back then.

Bobby actually came out for a skate as the first star (maybe at Saku's insistence) and promptly got a massive boofest from the crowd.

 

[Genesis76]

And PK Brought... titles? I mean, CR is arguably the 2nd best player in the world. PK was arguably the 2nd best player on his team.

By telling me I'm writing nonsense... you don't realize it, but it really means that I make LOTS of sense.

1- He brought untapped exposure.

2- You gotta take things in perspective, before Subban in the playoffs we were always losing in the first or second round and most times we dint even make the playoffs....for 17 years in a row. Since he joined we reached the ECFs twice and by far, by really far the best player in the off season. ( going 17 years with absolute mediocrity, you can bet your house those 2 ECFs in 5 years were worth stanley cups for us and we celebtrated the wins accordingly, PK's energy and passion made those 2 ECFs possible)

3- Hes the best player we have had since Roy

4- PK was playing 30 mins per game in 2010, Price was heating up the goalie's bench in 2010. PK was the better player for a longer time, if you are reasonable with your thoughts you would know PK was the better player.

 

[417]

Carey Price is the kind of player and person who'd laugh behind his mask and make a spectacular save.

And sorry, I don't buy the bolded. That's a totally false narrative IMO. The cream of the NHL historically, put to shame by a singular player? Unimaginable. If the Habs' reputation is diminished in some way, it's from internal incompetence and failure. Nothing else.

You don't to buy it...just tune into the game tonight, you'll SEE it for yourself. But either way, it's what I think, I don't you to 'buy into it'.

Furthermore, I never said the Montreal Canadiens were put to shame by PK Subban...you crafted that strawman on your own.

 

[Frank Drebin]

1- He brought untapped exposure.

2- You gotta take things in perspective, before Subban in the playoffs we were always losing in the first or second round and most times we dint even make the playoffs....for 17 years in a row. Since he joined we reached the ECFs twice and by far, by really far the best player in the off season. ( going 17 years with absolute mediocrity, you can bet your house those 2 ECFs in 5 years were worth stanley cups for us and we celebtrated the wins accordingly, PK's energy and passion made those 2 ECFs possible)

3- Hes the best player we have had since Roy

4- PK was playing 30 mins per game in 2010, Price was heating up the goalie's bench in 2010. PK was the better player for a longer time, if you are reasonable in your thoughts you would know PK was the better player.

The pivotal games 6 and 7 against Boston in 2014, try to remember who Montreal's best players were.

Someone let in 1 goal over 120 minutes.
Someone had 2G 1 A
Someone had 0pts.

Its examples like this that show how he became bigger than the team.

Hell, 2010 was all about Halak, and you're trying to say PK was the reason this team won?

Let me know when PK sniffs a Hart trophy.

 

[Strat]

Thanks for that information - not sure what this has to do with anything I wrote though

You seem like the type to be that way. You've admitted censoring yourself and even in your current posts, it's easy to see the level of anger and resentment.

I don't think you understand my point of view...perhaps you should attempt doing that before suggesting I'm upset about anything.

I absolutely do. Can the attitude, guy. You're not winning any points by doing pointless posturing on an online forum. If that's all you've got when politely asked about a topic is to push back with attitude and sarcasm, that tells me volumes about you.

It also reinforced the anger comment I made earlier. Chill out, dude.

Man...did you bother reading ANYTHING I wrote? Never mind understanding it?

I don't care and expect fans to cheer for PK, I've got no issues with that, that's what the pre-game tribute will be for, that's what TV timeouts are for, etc.

I'm talking about when he's on the ice, has the puck...to hear Habs fans cheering PK PK PK, essentially cheering for him to score a goal against the Habs, is weak IMO.

There's zero distinction at all between the two. Why do you care so much if any Habs fan cheer a non-Hab player?

I'm not upset about it, I'm not going to cry, I'm not going to throw a fit...I just find it weak, that's all.

You're already throwing a fit here, just responding to my post. I can only imagine how you'll be if it happens.

 

[loudi94]

I don't think anyone disagrees with that...

And you don't seem to disagree that a quick thank you video for Subban is warranted...

So what are we arguing exactly? Who meant more to the team between PK and Saku? That's a discussion for another thread.

Not sure. I think I have a bee in my bonnet because people can't seem to let him go. It killed me when Roy was traded and for a time chose the Avs as a second team but never once would I have ever imagined a scenario where I wished him any kind of success against my team. Had HF existed at that time, I think we'd be at constant war with each other.

 

[Peanut]

I expect Montreal to win this game but Nashville has sure turned it up latley. Im just hoping for an entertaining game.

Also if anyone has a gif or link of Radulov hit in the 3rd period against NJD that would be great haha

 

[TT1]

Too bad, i wanted to see Davidson play

 

[417]

You seem like the type to be that way.

You've never met me, I don't even recognize your name as a poster here...yet you know my 'type'?

Sure lol

You've admitted censoring yourself and even in your current posts, it's easy to see the level of anger and resentment.

Yeah, I'm in a blind rage here...someone hold me back

I absolutely do. Can the attitude, guy. You're not winning any points by doing pointless posturing on an online forum. If that's all you've got when politely asked about a topic is to push back with attitude and sarcasm, that tells me volumes about you.

I'm not trying to win points and I'm also not aware that I gave you attitude or sarcasm. You indicated from my posts that I'm upset to the point I'm in tears and that I have anger

Nowhere in my posts did I express either of those emotions, so I asked you to show me how or what brought you to that conclusion.

It also reinforced the anger comment I made earlier. Chill out, dude.

Again, I have idea what could make you think I'm angry

There's zero distinction at all between the two. Why do you care so much if any Habs fan cheer a non-Hab player?

I'd argue there's a fairly big distinction between cheering for a former player during a video tribute compared to cheering an opposing player when he has the puck and the play is on-going.

You're already throwing a fit here, just responding to my post. I can only imagine how you'll be if it happens.

Yes you're right...I'm enraged here, they've had to call security to my desk to hold me back.

Stop winding me up with your non-sensical posts about things I never said from a person I've never met!!

I'm shaking my fists back and forth while writing this I'm so angry

 

[Strat]

You've never met me, I don't even recognize your name as a poster here...yet you know my 'type'?

Sure lol

Yeah, I'm in a blind rage here...someone hold me back

I'm not trying to win points and I'm also not aware that I gave you attitude or sarcasm. You indicated from my posts that I'm upset to the point I'm in tears and that I have anger

Nowhere in my posts did I express either of those emotions, so I asked you to show me how or what brought you to that conclusion.

Again, I have idea what could make you think I'm angry

I'd argue there's a fairly big distinction between cheering for a former player during a video tribute compared to cheering an opposing player when he has the puck and the play is on-going.

Yes you're right...I'm enraged here, they've had to call security to my desk to hold me back.

Stop winding me up with your non-sensical posts about things I never said from a person I've never met!!

I'm shaking my fists back and forth while writing this I'm so angry

Confirmed what I already suspected. Attitude, sarcasm, and nothing else. Thanks for playing.

No doubt you'll respond as you need to have the last word. No doubt you'll try your hand at being dismissive but it'll just prove once more how I know your type.

 

[donghabs98]

Nashville has been on a scoring tear lately, this will be a good test for the big physical mentality the team is going for now to counter offensive teams.

 

[417]

Nashville has been on a scoring tear lately, this will be a good test for the big physical mentality the team is going for now to counter offensive teams.

Yeah Forsberg is killing it right now...seems they've found their groove right in time, but I've got a feeling this is going to be a big win for the Habs.

 

[Lebowski]

Not sure. I think I have a bee in my bonnet because people can't seem to let him go. It killed me when Roy was traded and for a time chose the Avs as a second team but never once would I have ever imagined a scenario where I wished him any kind of success against my team. Had HF existed at that time, I think we'd be at constant war with each other.

The Habs are my one and only team and I can't imagine myself ever changing allegiance. They were here long before Subban, and they'll be here long after as well.

But I do have a profound disdain for a lot of what the franchise has been standing for since Molson took over. I want nothing more than to see Subban prove Bergevin and the rabid medias of Montréal wrong. To me that would be karma coming back to bite them. A situation similar to Kessel after moving to Pittsburgh would be beautiful.

Do I wish to see this team fail? No, I don't. But I'll always hold Molson, Bergevin and Therrien accountable for ruining the kind of core they inherited.

 

[Uber Coca]

Tough matchup. Nashville is currently on a 4 games winning streak. They're average on the road though and Montreal is amazing at home so we'll see.

I expect a fully motivated Weber with the added muscles to boot.

 

[E82]

I'm not opposed to some kind of recognition for PK. Just wish there to be some perspective. He's by no means a conquering hero making a triumphant return. A cog in the machine. The logo stood on its own before him and continues to do so without him.

It's posts like this that make it hard to really debate on here. Who are you to decide who a hero is? I think you should talk to all the sick kids about who possibly might be their hero. People have to understand that with PK, he delivered as best as he could on the ice and he also delivered off the ice. You can say the logo was there before but with PK it tapped new markets brought a different type of exposure to the habs/hockey in general. People have grown to love him for simple things as just being different. You can tell that the hate some display here is unwarranted when they go making fun about his charity work.