Confirmed Trade: [MTL/NSH] PK Subban for Shea Weber

[nucksauce]

So I am not in the Ea sports threads right now. These trades really happened...what the what?!?

 

[Battle Lin]

it was different a few years back, but from now and into the future, im sure vast majority of teams would pick pk over weber

 

[ohmyjlord]

Might not be a popular opinion, but personally...I'm ECSTATIC about this trade.

Sure, Weber is four years older, which is quite important. And Subban is highly skilled. However, he also comes with his fair share of issues on and off the ice. In my opinion, Subban didn't show any improvement last year. While he did get his fair share of points last year, he wasn't the offensive treath from the point, especially on the PP, that he needed to be for a good chunck of the year, and didn't seem to care all that much. Defensively, he slighty improved overall, but that was negated by some very stupid and egoistical plays that made a lot of fans cursed.

Off the ice, he clearly wasn't a fit with Montreal's very conservative ways of doing things. Every reporter in town had reported, at one point or another, that Subban wasn't appreciated in the lockeroom...not only by guys like Plekanec or Pacioretty, but pretty much everyone else. Price is the only one who seemed able to keep him in check.

Obviously, Subban never was Bergevin's guy. Molson forced his hand into giving him that $9.0m deal.

There's a lot of negative in this deal for the Habs, if you want to support that narrative. But there's also quite a lot of positive. Weber's current caphit being $1.0+ less than Subban, his leadership on the blueline, doesn't quite have the offensive potential for a 60+ points season like Subban has, but still has a booming shot from the point, an potential to hit 20-goals easily, much more responsible defensively, a lot bigger than Subban...

To be honest, I really don't mind seing Weber come in, and Subban go out. At this point, I think it's best for everyone involved.

 

[Fazkovsky]

what is weber cap hit per year?

 

[bucks_oil]

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Guess Subban's teammates didn't like him...I love Weber but he's slowing down...bad trade for the habs

He's thirty.

Same age as Chris Pronger when he was traded to the Oilers.

He doesn't need to skate like PK to be relevant and a top-10 league wide defenseman WELL into his mid to late thirties.

 

[Iron Throne]

Going to be a break out year for Subban. Subban had been neutered in Montreal

 

[illpucks]

Weber's contract is what makes this suck for montreal

MTL fans can thank Philly for that

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

PK is gonna have a beast of a year next year and this will look even more silly

 

[aemoreira1981]

The Hall trade made me cry laughing. But this trade, this special trade, absolutely made my day. Love to see the Habs shoot themselves in the foot. Awful deal for them, so glad.

At least that one had rumors around it, albeit Nuge for Severson.

 

[LuGBuG]

Weber is awesome, but in 3-4 years this will be awful let alone in 8

 

[beowulf]

This is beyond stupid move if straight Weber for Subban.

 

[Rebuilt]

Nashville wins this trade hands down.

 

[JustAHabFan]

Just for the record... I think Montreal wins this trade and it isn't really that close for me. Weber is the better defenseman... and still will be for the next 5 years.

And they save over a million in cap hit.

The guy was a top pairing D on team Canada. How is this a bad thing?

Who care about Team Canada. I have seen a lot of Weber and I am convinced Subban is better than Veber right now. On top, he is 3/4 years younger.

 

[zzoo]

By now, I'm pretty sure that I can do a better job than certain GMs. I can't believe it.

 

[SmellOfVictory]

wow nice deal for the preds

For real. I don't see what's going on in Bergevin's head. "We need to get older... and slower... and worse..."

I mean, I guess they save cap space this way?

 

[Matt24]

PK is gonna have a beast of a year next year and this will look even more silly

Exactly. Subban's a very prideful guy. You know he's going to come out gun's blazin'.

 

[Lapa]

 

[MtlPenFan]

#hockeyguys

 

[OneManArmy]

I make better deals in NHL 16 ffs.

 

[End on a Hinote]

WTF Montreal!?

 

[bl02]

Wow!!! We all know weber is terrific but straight up for Pk? Subban is dynamic, younger and it seems like the city of Montreal loved him.

 

[spintheblackcircle]

 

[SuperGM17]

Surprising trade! Never would've thought that i'd be seeing Weber wear another teams Jersey!

 

[Garbage Goal]

I don't know that there's anything more Bergevin/Therrien could do to further alienate their own fans. This is so baffling and hilarious from an outsider's perspective. Sucks if you're a Habs fan.

There's zero upside to this deal. Got the worse contract for the older player past his prime for a similarly talented but much younger player who's going to be on a deal that isn't until he's 40. There's no sense to it at all.

 

[Tsundere]

I have the same stance actually, although I'm a huge Subban fan I think he had his worst season last year.

I don't necessarily think the Habs lost this trade, unless Subban reaches 65+ points and 15+ goals. Last season Subban was one of the reasons Habs had a poor PP, so predictable and couldn't hit the net, and he also made terrible turnovers and took stupid and selfish penalties at the worst times. Still, a very very talented skater and puck mover. If Subban plays up to his potential Habs lose this trade.

The reason our PP sucked was because our coach sucks. Subban was predictable because Therrien forced him to play that style and abide to his system.