Confirmed Trade: [MTL/NSH] PK Subban for Shea Weber - Pt. 2

[HuGo Sham]

many many hab fans - majority in fact, hate this trade from a public service standpoint...

hockey-wise it's a bit of a downgrade IF Bargainbin doesn't address top 6 to mitigate PK's loss
AND
if our young D like Juulsen / Sergachev don't pan out within three years...


I'm trying hard to believe our GM will bring in Fowler and a forward with 9+ mill in cap space
before buyouts

 

[loadie]

Too funny and probably what many Hab fans wish Bergevin would do.

 

[Coach Parker]

So when Nashville wants to move Subban who's taking bets the only two teams Subban gives are Toronto and Boston?

Come play with Malcolm and against Montreal PK...

 

[76]

I'm amazed Montreal was able to keep this in house.

And seriously, it was obvious from my couch. So it's even harder to understand how even the majority of the medias never saw it.
Just watching the games, the behaviors, the comments, the reactions, and we even had ch24, christ we almost knew their underwears color.

I just don't understand. It was just obvious.

PK has pushed himself out of this team by his own. Can't count the number of times I laugh listening his comments and watching him behave. The epic moment was when he putted the fault on his skate, in front of everyone at the bench, when he fell on the ice allowing a costly turnover. I couldn't believe it.

 

[SenzZen]

Makes more sense value-wise, I guess.

Fair point.

burn

I believe they call that "savage".

Sens fans showing their usual level of maturity and class in this here thread.

How many classless Subbans would you give us?

Or maybe you can just address the posters individually instead of taking a potshot at the entire fanbase?

Didn't Bergevin just say PK was going to be a Hab for a long time ? :/

Kiss of death strikes again.

Of course it's true.
And honestly I have hard time to believe that about no one even talk about that, even in Montreal, no one seems to see what was so obvious. Everyone outside the other players thinks Subban is perfect.

You don't trade PK Subban if there's not a major problem with him. When your most paid player doesn't have the respect of his teammates, it tells everything and you are going nowhere as a team.

Get prepared Nashville, Subban is the ultimate communicator, everyone outside the room will love him. But his teammates will find out who he is very quickly, if they don't already know a little.

It's not by accident that his teammates didn't vote him for the Clancy when it was obvious that he deserved it. Not by accident that team Canada who doesn't want him either. It's not about only being 'flamboyant', it's a lot more than that, the addition of so many wrong little things.

I only hope he'll wake up. It's ok to be confident, but this guy could benefit so much of just a little bit of humility. If he wants the respect of his teammates he'll have to learn how to really respect them first.

Dat username doe.

 

[76]

Fair point.



I believe they call that "savage".



How many classless Subbans would you give us?

Or maybe you can just address the posters individually instead of taking a potshot at the entire fanbase?



Kiss of death strikes again.



Dat username doe.

Yeah, birthdate, not for PK haha

 

[SenzZen]

Yeah, birthdate, not for PK haha

Ah my bad. I read your post like you were coming to terms with a harsh reality.

 

[indigobuffalo]

Read and weep.Your completely off.

That chart is completely off. He's not retiring this year...?

Montreal is receiving $8M+ in cap benefit. It's the difference in cap over actual dollars. That amount is spread out over the remaining term when he retires.

 

[Adam Michaels]

They should have just traded Subban for Hall straight up. Both teams would be better off rather than make the super terrible trades they made..

Trading Subban for Hall straight-up would help on offense, but create a huge hole on D. Trading Subban for a guy who can take his exact spot is a lot smarter.

 

[Shootertooter]

Nashville is going to be a hell of a team. What is up with the Habs GM's? Just terrible for them. Is Weber protected for the expansion draft? just terrible management.

 

[indigobuffalo]

Teams receiving a “cap advantage†from long-term contracts — defined as seven years or more for contracts signed prior to the January 2013 CBA — will be penalized in the event the player retires or “defects†from the NHL before the contract expires. A team receives a “cap advantage†when the player’s actual salary exceeds his cap hit in a given year.
Following retirement/defection, the “advantage†will be “recaptured†and charged against the club’s cap in equal amounts each year until the contract expires. This penalty applies to any team that received a cap advantage from the contract — ie. a traded contract — except in the event that the trade occurred prior to the new CBA coming into place in January 2013.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Nashville is going to be a hell of a team. What is up with the Habs GM's? Just terrible for them. Is Weber protected for the expansion draft? just terrible management.

They aren't forced to protect him. He doesn't have a NMC (or a NTC) so Habs aren't forced to protect him if they choose so.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Teams receiving a “cap advantage†from long-term contracts — defined as seven years or more for contracts signed prior to the January 2013 CBA — will be penalized in the event the player retires or “defects†from the NHL before the contract expires. A team receives a “cap advantage†when the player’s actual salary exceeds his cap hit in a given year.
Following retirement/defection, the “advantage†will be “recaptured†and charged against the club’s cap in equal amounts each year until the contract expires. This penalty applies to any team that received a cap advantage from the contract — ie. a traded contract — except in the event that the trade occurred prior to the new CBA coming into place in January 2013.

All of this is on Nashville. Bergevin confirmed it in his press conference.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

what is the logic of this trade..

 

[karnige]

what is the logic of this trade..

habs get better defense they desperately need while the preds get more offense they need.

 

[Mpasta]

Trading Subban for Hall straight-up would help on offense, but create a huge hole on D. Trading Subban for a guy who can take his exact spot is a lot smarter.

Yea, it's smarter. But it doesn't make it smart.

Nashville is going to be a hell of a team. What is up with the Habs GM's? Just terrible for them. Is Weber protected for the expansion draft? just terrible management.

Weber will obviously be protected be the Habs even if he didn't have to be.

 

[jacks*]

That chart is completely off. He's not retiring this year...?

Montreal is receiving $8M+ in cap benefit. It's the difference in cap over actual dollars. That amount is spread out over the remaining term when he retires.

Here maybe this will help you understand.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...Weber-Nashville-Predators--Flyers-Offer-Sheet

I think you kind of got it mixed up.

 

[MasterDecoy]

I am done with this GM

 

[ultraboy]

Love the trade as a Habs fan, Weber is a stud..
Funny when PK was with Habs he was most overrated D in the NHL, now that he is not on the Habs anymore he is top 3 d somehow and better than Weber ahah.
Also PK is 6-6.5 m defenceman overpaid at 9 for what he brings on the ice while Weber at 8 is ok.
Don't care about age and length cause he will still be good for the next 5 years which is the window for the Habs to win the cup with Price..

 

[CapSpace]

They aren't forced to protect him. He doesn't have a NMC (or a NTC) so Habs aren't forced to protect him if they choose so.

Losing Weber to Vegas would be the pinnacle of idiocy from a bunch of ****ing conservatives clowns.

Don't get me wrong, I like Weber, he's still a beast. But almost 31.

You trade a special guy like PK, you go for the homerun. You go get Hall and the 4th overall, or Draisaitl+4th+Nurse or Klefbom. I don't care how, you make Chia do it, you do it, or you keep the guy.

I'm not really mad about this trade ; I just can't believe the future these clueless morons are building in Montreal.

The way people are drived by emotions, powerful ones, on a subject of such little importance is a good proof, if any, of why the world is going to ****. That's an other debate, for sure.

 

[CupsOverCash]

what is the logic of this trade..

I was going to say I don't understand this trade. Why?

 

[luthar]

Here maybe this will help you understand.

http://www.stanleycupofchowder.com/...Weber-Nashville-Predators--Flyers-Offer-Sheet

Your simply wrong.

Just amazing how Webber could completely manhandle Nashville salary cap at age 39. Wow!

 

[perronist]

i love montreal and think it's the best city in canada and i want them to well and i hate this trade. a franchise destroying trade if i ever saw one.

 

[MasterDecoy]

Just amazing how Webber could completely manhandle Nashville salary cap at age 39. Wow!

Weber smash cap hit too? That guy is good...

 

[Christ]

Second Canadian team to get killed in a trade today...this one will hurt them more in a couple of years. I really like Weber, but for Subban? Ouch.