I really can't support this team anymore given how PK was treated, race seems to have played a clear factor
Confirmed Trade: [MTL/NSH] PK Subban for Shea Weber - Pt. 2
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I'm done. **** the Habs (Bergevin).
I'm almost at a loss for words. Awful, awful deal. Poile is laughing somewhere.
I'm almost at a loss for words. Awful, awful deal. Poile is laughing somewhere.
Mario le Magnifique
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Subban, a few years ago, was a better player that had more of an impact in a game. Last year, he was a shade of his old self, and made way too many Junior like mistakes, and not enough plays to make up for them. I'm liking this trade but it might bite the Habs and MB in the ass later. We'll see.
That said, not like I have no bias, Subban was my favorite Habs player. But what I care most is the future of this franchise, the immediate future with Price in his prime. Weber still has good years. If Habs don't make it to at least the finals, fail on MB*. Let's say Subban still has a good 8-9 years in front of him. But what I want more is a cup in the next few years, with all the cheap contracts that will be expiring soon, after that period the team will be in rebuild as the core will all be past their prime. Shea Weber is better all around IMO and it makes the team more balanced in front of Price, assuming Markov can still play and Petry can step up to be a top pairing PMD.
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WOW, someone who gets it!
Montreal will LOVE Weber. The guy is a stud! Thank gawd he is out of the Central!
He's probably wrong even not consdiering contract, I'd hope the vast majority of hockey fans realize that Subban is just a more effective player...especially today.
Well, FWIW, Weber is used to playing on a team with no star forwards. This is a serious window trade. MTL needs to win... something... in the next 5 years. Right now they don't have the tools.
And Subban is with a promising group now.
And Subban is with a promising group now.
Dude, wait until Weber isn't playing with Josi.
I don't understand why Montreal made this deal. I think Weber may be the better player next season -- though that's highly debatable -- but in a year or two it won't even be close: Subban will be miles better while Weber declines.
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BTW, the NHL must really like this trade. Having an awesome guy like Subban in an american franschise on the rise is great for their marketing team
Shea is amazing player , Top D , so i dont know if its as bad for MTL fans as some comments have suggested,
But PK is a sick dman too don't know why u trade him away ? Maybe MTL mangament/ coaching staff didn't like his attitude , I think the NHL needs more players like him though to be honest
But PK is a sick dman too don't know why u trade him away ? Maybe MTL mangament/ coaching staff didn't like his attitude , I think the NHL needs more players like him though to be honest
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Better breakdown of the recapture penalty
I can't imagine Webber playin gpast 38. So most likely Nashville has a penalty of 5-8million for 5-3 years.
I can't imagine Webber playin gpast 38. So most likely Nashville has a penalty of 5-8million for 5-3 years.
When it comes to on-ice impact, the deal is really close, I see them as comparable players. But Nashville gets the younger player, a tad more expensive, and Montreal gets someone who old-school fans will appreciate more. It's not as bad of a deal as people make it out to be. Still like it a little bit more for Nashville, Subban had a down year and he was by most measures still neck to neck with Weber, who's not getting any younger.
By the way,the recapture penalty's still a thing. So don't count this as a clear win for the Preds just yet.
By the way,the recapture penalty's still a thing. So don't count this as a clear win for the Preds just yet.
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Weber is not that good anymore and hasn't been that good for a couple of years. I guess some people haven't been paying attention.
Let's see how this looks in just 3-4 years. Weber will be 35 when P.K is just 30. This was not a very good hockey trade in the long run. One of the worst in NHL history.
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Doughty's up there too in giveaways. You can give the puck away more when you actually have it to begin with
But please, continue using giveaways as a defensive stat.
Lmao. Ok. It's a positive thing to lead the league in giveaways 2 years running. When I think of amazing D, I think of handing the opposition the puck more than anyone in the league. Great strategy!! You upset that your team can't run Price anymore?
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It seems to me a lot of people are making Weber's contract and the trade, out to be a lot wore then it is. By being a front loaded contract the actual money paid goes down each year. I see no no-trade clause so it seems to me the Canadians keep Weber for as long as he is worth his cap hit. Then when his play diminishes they offer him up to a budget team that won’t be hitting the cap anyways. Whoever they trade him to will probably give a deceit asset because of his name recognition alone, even if he is a 4-6 instead of a #1 defensemen, after all he will be paid like a #6 in actual dollars.
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A lot of people just know the players by reputation and not actually watching them. I have seen at laest 15 games from Nashville and Subban > Weber right now. What a horrible trade for the Habs.
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