Confirmed Trade: [MTL/NSH] PK Subban for Shea Weber - Pt. 2

[TNT87]

Nice job by the Preds.

 

[TLEH]

If i was PK i would have said the same thing. Organization seems to just have wanted to railroad him out of town.

 

[LeafingTheWay]

Where can I find an advanced stats comparison for the 2 players?

I would recommend these: Just a bunch, where you can search up various stats:
http://stats.hockeyanalysis.com/ratings.php
http://www.corsica.hockey/combos/
http://www.behindthenet.ca/

This one is more of a visual, I wouldn't recommend using this to make any significant conclusions as there are numerous things to consider when looking at the charts on this site: http://ownthepuck.blogspot.ca/

 

[Shrimper]

The thing about Subban isn't just on a hockey level, he was a great person off the ice and gave a lot to charitable causes in Montreal. That's going to sting. Shea Weber is no doubt a great guy too, but trading someone like that isn't good.

 

[rynryn]

i really don't understand this one from Montreal's POV. I'm guessing Subban was a pain in the ass to work with. But still...

Glad Weber is out of the division though.

 

[aufheben]

Just proof these new age Norris candidate defensemen are overrated; Subban, Karlsson, and Letang. All 3 of those I would package for a shutdown D and top 3 forward. Habs could and should have got more just because of the age difference so I guess they lost.

Yeah he was terrible in the playoffs.

 

[Mitchy]

Even though I'm a fan of the Habs' rivals, feels bad man.

 

[ThirdManIn]

I don't see how this helps either team. Habs lose IMO because of webers age.

Poile's reasoning is solid I think. He wants to take the Preds in the direction he thinks the NHL is heading - focus on skill and skating. Subban fits that better than Weber, and his age is more in line with the age of the rest of the top 4. 27 (Subban), 26 (Josi), 26 (Ellis), 25 (Ekholm).

 

[BrokenFace]

Today was more exciting than July 1st is going to be.

 

[Liminality]

burn

Damn that's some strong words, probably right too.

 

[gordie]

Just proof these new age Norris candidate defensemen are overrated; Subban, Karlsson, and Letang. All 3 of those I would package for a shutdown D and top 3 forward. Habs could and should have got more just because of the age difference so I guess they lost.

Kris Letang's two cup rings and three trips to the Finals would disagree with that observation.

 

[didimentionlarseller]

What makes him an idiot? He's one of the best play-by-play guys in hockey.

I think someone needs to sit down and congratulate Poile. Although he's given up good players (Jones and Weber), he's managed to bring in Johansen and Subban. That team is setup with a ridiculous core for a long time.

you should have just heard his top15 d rap on 690

Poile just fleeced bergevin I agree

 

[Soundgarden]

How much did Josi play with Weber? Habs don't have anyone to help him, how will he do with zero help in terms of puck carrying?

Almost entirely, BUT you are once again under rating how good Weber is. He'll be just fine at moving the puck and any no.6 you put on a line with him will look like Bobby Orr with him. He helped Josi just as much as Josi helped him which is why it was the best pairing in the league.

 

[777]

Weber>Subban

This trade is quite even and wow what a blockbuster. Typical HF overreaction

 

[The Madrigal]

Marc Bergevin is the NHL's newest version of Paul Holmgren, except worse. If I was a Habs fan right now I would seriously be beside myself.

 

[RainingRats]

Poile's reasoning is solid I think. He wants to take the Preds in the direction he thinks the NHL is heading - focus on skill and skating. Subban fits that better than Weber, and his age is more in line with the age of the rest of the top 4. 27 (Subban), 26 (Josi), 26 (Ellis), 25 (Ekholm).

Nashville, never not having a sick D core.

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

i really don't understand this one from Montreal's POV. I'm guessing Subban was a pain in the ass to work with. But still...

Glad Weber is out of the division though.

I'm glad Subban is out of the division.

Subban is and will be a better player than Weber for the next 10 years.

 

[Leafs87]

Weber can easily retire early and screw over the Preds with recapture penalties, and they still did it, while being fully aware of that.

Shows how bad of a deal it is for MTL

I think he will almost certainly retire early

 

[member 202355]

burn

What a beauty.

 

[mazmin]

Nashville wins easily.

Weber is 31 and his style of play wears down his body unlike Subban who's less physical game will keep him younger longer. Subban is also 4 years younger and in the midst of his prime.

What was Montreal thinking? He should be their captain, not traded for an aging vet.

 

[EveryDay]

Why everyone on the thread about TC a few months ago for next world cup were picking Weber over Subban saying that Weber was way ahead Subban and now its the other way around?

 

[Faax]

Yea, I'm done with this team. Trade makes no sense at all. Weber is on the decline whereas PK still hasn't reached his peak, not to mention how niceit was having PK representing the habs given his personality.

MB is the worst GM in the league, hands down

 

[Woodrow]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Gnashville]

Subban will never win another Norris, and Weber finally has a chance

 

[WhiteWalker*]

Yeah he was terrible in the playoffs.

He wasn't amazing. They won inspite of him in the toughest series for the Pens all playoff... The Caps. Stupid penalties left and right. Suspended for one of the few games they were outplayed they still won without him. Go pull up the Caps second win thread and look at everyone bashing him and wanting him traded. He was good in Finals but they could win without him.