McKenzie: Moved: McKenzie: Oilers in on Barrie? (Moves by Colorado-- Merged)

[Draiskull]

With offers like this, I think it might be a while.

This is a lot closer to reality than what many COL fans have been dreaming about here.

my proposed 3 way based on this:

To COL: Fowler + EDM 1st
To ANA: Pouliot + Yakupov
To EDM: Barrie

EDM gives up Pouliot+Yak+1st for Barrie
COL gets Fowler+EDM 1st for Barrie
ANA gets Pouliot+Yak for Fowler.

 

[Exit Dose]

Edmonton- Barrie and Mitchell
Colorado- Fowler, RNH and Ritchie
Anaheim- Landeskog and Yakupov

Ducks give up Fowler and Ritchie, get Landeskog and Yakupov
Edmonton gives up RNH and Yakupov, gets Barrie and Mitchell
Colorado gives up Barrie and Landeskog, gets Fowler, RNH and Ritchie

Colorado:

Duchene-MacKinnon-Iginla
Ritchie-RNH-Grigorenko

Beauchemin-Johnson
Fowler-Zadorov/UFA

Anaheim:

Landeskog-Getzlaf-Perry
Silfverberg-Kesler-Yakupov

Lindholm-Vatanen
Theodore-Bieksa

Edmonton:

Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Maroon-McDavid-Eberle

Sekera-Barrie
Klefbom-Larsson

Anaheim isn't going to offer up Ritchie and get back Yakupov.

 

[Jarey Curry]

What's wrong with Drai for Barrie?

 

[Rebuilt]

Guess the offer is not THAT bad if you believe the Oils will finish bottom 5 again...

We wont. We will draft 10-14th as it stands now.

Pul , Yak and a 1st is as high as I would go. That seems reasonable.

Sure its not Draisaitl, Klefbom Nurse 3first rounders AND a set of steak knives like the Avs want, but hey its the next best thing.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

What would a 3 way with the Ducks even look like?



D Tyson Barrie
C John Mitchell




C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
D Mark Fayne



D Cam Fowler
LW Andrew Cogliano

The general framework that was being laid out by Bob Stauffer was the Oilers 1st rd pick + Benoit Pouliot for Cam Fowler and then Cam Fowler + something else is traded to the Avs for Barrie's rights. Just reading between the lines I'd guess Yak would be the piece we'd like to add, but the Avs want something more substantial.

The Ducks were interested in Benoit Pouliot before and he apparently would of been traded there at the deadline if he wasn't injured, I'm not sure if we would retain on Pouliot for the Ducks, but him with retention I'd guess would be much more enticing.

 

[Homesick]

I believe that RNH, Nurse and Edmonton's first round pick is fair value for Barrie.

It's fair, but I think the Avs would prefer Leon instead.

Leon + Yak for Barrie + Mitchell + pick/prospect

Give me a break

Then you follow up with a proposal that probably is fair lol You won't like the cost of that pick though.

Don't care much for Mitchell but then again I don't care much for Yakupov

 

[Draiskull]

What's wrong with Drai for Barrie?

same thing that is wrong with Klefbom for MacKinnon?
Draisaitl is not for sale.

 

[Vanqu1sh]

This is a lot closer to reality than what many COL fans have been dreaming about here.

my proposed 3 way based on this:

To COL: Fowler + EDM 1st
To ANA: Pouliot + Yakupov
To EDM: Barrie

EDM gives up Pouliot+Yak+1st for Barrie
COL gets Fowler+EDM 1st for Barrie
ANA gets Pouliot+Yak for Fowler.

i feel like anaheim should get the pick and colorado get fowler. they can cap dump iginla too. fowler and barrie value that far off? fowler sucks or something? honest question.

 

[nikyc]

As an Avs fan, I'd drive Barrie to the airport myself. All 3 of those assets is an overpayment.


I do think it Would take 2/3 of those assets though. And I'm not sure Nurse + 1st gets it done either.

Edmonton wants a RHD so they will have to overpay a bit. Colorado will like to get a d-man back for Barrie. RNH is expendable because the Oilers have Draisaitl and don't need him on a 3rd line. That gives him a chance to move up. If Oilers get this trade and with what they have done since June they will make the playoffs I belive which is their intentions. Maybe a 2nd round pick back from Colorado would fit in too I guess. As a fan of hockey I think It is a good offer and would be great for both teams.

 

[member 147413]

Why is Barrie being so ridiculously overvalued?

 

[Draiskull]

i feel like anaheim should get the pick and colorado get fowler. they can cap dump iginla too. fowler and barrie value that far off? fowler sucks or something? honest question.

supply and demand I guess..

ANA needs to move out Fowler to sign Lindholm and they also need to sign about 3 more NHL forwards.
Barrie and Fowler may be close quality wise but Barrie has a lot more demand ..EDM 1st would get them that key add to pull the trigger.

ANA fans would certainly want sexier players for Fowler. Pouliot doesnt really have that much appeal but would actually be very effective on ANA's top line.

 

[Avs44]

Why is Barrie being so ridiculously overvalued.

I've found the guy who watches him twice per year.

 

[Vanqu1sh]

The general framework that was being laid out by Bob Stauffer was the Oilers 1st rd pick + Benoit Pouliot for Cam Fowler and then Cam Fowler + something else is traded to the Avs for Barrie's rights. Just reading between the lines I'd guess Yak would be the piece we'd like to add, but the Avs want something more substantial.

The Ducks were interested in Benoit Pouliot before and he apparently would of been traded there at the deadline if he wasn't injured, I'm not sure if we would retain on Pouliot for the Ducks, but him with retention I'd guess would be much more enticing.

Just take iginla as a cap dump?

 

[Jarey Curry]

same thing that is wrong with Klefbom for MacKinnon?
Draisaitl is not for sale.

You have a gm who just gave up Hall for Larsson... Anyway dmen seem to return quite a lot back so you need to give Drai or near to get a guy like Barrie

 

[McHortton]

Edmonton- Barrie and Mitchell
Colorado- Fowler, RNH and Ritchie
Anaheim- Landeskog and Yakupov

Ducks give up Fowler and Ritchie, get Landeskog and Yakupov
Edmonton gives up RNH and Yakupov, gets Barrie and Mitchell
Colorado gives up Barrie and Landeskog, gets Fowler, RNH and Ritchie

Colorado:

Duchene-MacKinnon-Iginla
Ritchie-RNH-Grigorenko

Beauchemin-Johnson
Fowler-Zadorov/UFA

Anaheim:

Landeskog-Getzlaf-Perry
Silfverberg-Kesler-Yakupov

Lindholm-Vatanen
Theodore-Bieksa

Edmonton:

Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
Maroon-McDavid-Eberle

Sekera-Barrie
Klefbom-Larsson

I'm not a fan of either team, but that's a pretty solid 3 way. Well done!

I'd maybe add oilers giving a 2nd to the Aves or something like that because I think their giving up the 2 best players , but they get 3 solid pieces back.

 

[Vanqu1sh]

supply and demand I guess..

ANA needs to move out Fowler to sign Lindholm and they also need to sign about 3 more NHL forwards.
Barrie and Fowler may be close quality wise but Barrie has a lot more demand ..EDM 1st would get them that key add to pull the trigger.

ANA fans would certainly want sexier players for Fowler. Pouliot doesnt really have that much appeal but would actually be very effective on ANA's top line.

1st round pick is a lot of value though, wasn't it rumoured they wanted the 8th or 9th pick for him? This is edmonton's pick we talking about

Agree that Barrie is the rarer player being RHD, but I think a lot would still be interested in fowler, not every team is so heavily biased towards rhd like the oilers. Colorado is also looking to trade him same as Fowler, I don't see that making any difference personally. Either way its close and these deals make sense from GM perspective considering the circumstances, hopefully they can get it to work

 

[member 147413]

I've found the guy who watches him twice per year.

Intelligent, non speculative and unbiased post.

10/10 would read again

Barrie's a great defenseman, he's not worth RNH, Nurse and a likely lottery pick.

 

[Draiskull]

Edmonton wants a RHD so they will have to overpay a bit. Colorado will like to get a d-man back for Barrie. RNH is expendable because the Oilers have Draisaitl and don't need him on a 3rd line. That gives him a chance to move up. If Oilers get this trade and with what they have done since June they will make the playoffs I belive which is their intentions. Maybe a 2nd round pick back from Colorado would fit in too I guess. As a fan of hockey I think It is a good offer and would be great for both teams.

COL is hurting for D so they have to overpay a bit. Duchene is expendable because the Avs have Mackinnon and Soderberg and dont need him on the 3rd liner.
Trade Duchene+1st to ANA for Fowler since you apparently have to overpay.
maybe get a 2nd rd pick back.
As a fan of sarcasm it is a good offer and should help both clubs.

 

[Static]

Anaheim gets bent over in that garbage rumor. Pouliot for Fowler is an absolute joke.

 

[mytduxfan*]

This is a lot closer to reality than what many COL fans have been dreaming about here.

my proposed 3 way based on this:

To COL: Fowler + EDM 1st
To ANA: Pouliot + Yakupov
To EDM: Barrie

EDM gives up Pouliot+Yak+1st for Barrie
COL gets Fowler+EDM 1st for Barrie
ANA gets Pouliot+Yak for Fowler.

Not even close.

 

[Exit Dose]

supply and demand I guess..

ANA needs to move out Fowler to sign Lindholm and they also need to sign about 3 more NHL forwards.
Barrie and Fowler may be close quality wise but Barrie has a lot more demand ..EDM 1st would get them that key add to pull the trigger.

ANA fans would certainly want sexier players for Fowler. Pouliot doesnt really have that much appeal but would actually be very effective on ANA's top line.

There aren't a lot of LHDs available either.

 

[Draiskull]

You have a gm who just gave up Hall for Larsson... Anyway dmen seem to return quite a lot back so you need to give Drai or near to get a guy like Barrie

sure as long as Avs are also trading MacKinnon to fetch a decent Dman.

 

[s7ark]

Why is Barrie being so ridiculously overvalued.

Good question. Let the Avs keep him. I want no part of Barrie at the rumoured prices

 

[Jumptheshark]

Why is Barrie being so ridiculously overvalued.

that is my reaction as well

very bad in his own zone

 

[Vanqu1sh]

Anaheim gets bent over in that garbage rumor. Pouliot for Fowler is an absolute joke.

no doubt about that, but pouliot + 1st + maybe something else like yak or whatever? Can't say that's too far off is it, was anaheim not looking for 8th-9th pick as a return for him at draft?