McKenzie: Moved: McKenzie: Oilers in on Barrie? (Moves by Colorado-- Merged)

[Avsblitzkrieg]

I'd say this is all smoke doubt the trigger gets pulled here

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

TSN has some discussion of it here

http://www.tsn.ca/trade-bait-watch-the-avs-and-the-oilers-1.518690

Avs willing to trade their captain? wtf?

 

[missionAvs]

As an Avs fan, I'm very scared to hear about these rumors. We need Barrie.

 

[strictlyrandy]

Avs willing to trade their captain? wtf?

Nashville did it. All Central division teams should trade their captains now.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Avs willing to trade their captain? wtf?

They barely mentioned landeskog. At least they said there are rumblings about barrie.

 

[strictlyrandy]

And your second sentence backs up my statement. Not all trades are what fans deem fair value. Some are outright ripoffs. Some are close. Its hard to say universals.

It doesn't prove that Sakic is going to be ripped off.

You're presuming that Sakic is a bad GM and will get poor value when in reality, the only bad value he's gotten was for a couple of 2nd rounders.

He got phenomenal value for ROR, but sure let's ignore that.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

As an Avs fan, I'm very scared to hear about these rumors. We need Barrie.

Yup, our offense falls off a cliff without a pmd.

 

[Ninety7]

So a whole lot of nothin then?

 

[Paradoc]

It's been quite quiet indeed.

Indeed. Too quiet.

 

[p.l.f.]

watching these young teams going through makeovers adds a scare to my leaf rebuild dream

 

[ManofSteel55]

I seriously laughed at this.

Laughing more that everyone is correcting you

My co-workers probably think I'm do some pre-long weekend drinking right now (I'm not) because I am laughing far too much.

It doesn't prove that Sakic is going to be ripped off.

You're presuming that Sakic is a bad GM and will get poor value when in reality, the only bad value he's gotten was for a couple of 2nd rounders.

He got phenomenal value for ROR, but sure let's ignore that.

I'm not presuming anything other than "player x is worth blah blah blah, no way (insert random GM) does that deal" type statements have been proven wrong. If you want to take that and plug Sakic's name somewhere in there, that's on you, not me.

 

[strictlyrandy]

But now two GMs have been made basically the same trade. Sorry, but you can't arbitrarily exempt your team from market valuations just because you don't want to pay the same price.

Sorry. ..those 2 aren't even remotely close to being the same trade. Adam Larsson is a very very good defenseman. Martin Erat was a middle 6 player at best.

The Avs don't have to trade. They're not dealing from a position of weakness. As far as what value they'd return, Sakic has yet to receive poor value in a player for player trade, so I think I'll trust him here.

 

[MardyBum]

Nashville did it. All Central division teams should trade their captains now.

Too late!

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Sorry. ..those 2 aren't even remotely close to being the same trade. Adam Larsson is a very very good defenseman. Martin Erat was a middle 6 player at best.

The Avs don't have to trade. They're not dealing from a position of weakness. As far as what value they'd return, Sakic has yet to receive poor value in a player for player trade, so I think I'll trust him here.

I'm curious to hear how Johansen for Jones and Hall for Larsson is substantially different.

I'll wait.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Sorry. ..those 2 aren't even remotely close to being the same trade. Adam Larsson is a very very good defenseman. Martin Erat was a middle 6 player at best.

The Avs don't have to trade. They're not dealing from a position of weakness. As far as what value they'd return, Sakic has yet to receive poor value in a player for player trade, so I think I'll trust him here.

I don't think he meant the Erat trade. I think he meant that Hall for Larsson is very similar in value to Johanssen for Jones. And he would be right. Hall just had a (in Chiarelli's words) sexier reputation.

 

[HanSolo]

Ducks fans wouldn't trade Lindholm for Taylor Hall ...why the heck would they want Landeskog?

Just because we won't trade Lindholm for anything but an obvious overpayment doesn't mean we wouldn't want Hall or Landeskog

 

[ManofSteel55]

watching these young teams going through makeovers adds a scare to my leaf rebuild dream

Yep, only 5 more years and you guys can trade Marner for an underperforming Juolevi. Canucks fans, start salivating now.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

I feel this is overpaying..We just gave up our heart for a lung.

Ha. You guys have a heart in McDavid. You gave up your lung for a middle finger.

 

[La Bamba]

Ha. You guys have a heart in McDavid. You gave up your lung for a middle finger.

We gave up a really jacked arm for a leg with potential for growth tbh

 

[RockyMtnRedhawk]

We gave up a really jacked arm for a leg with potential for growth tbh

Yeah, but if your leg grows too much, you'll have one leg longer than the other. Then you'll just be limping around in a circle all day...

 

[La Bamba]

Yeah, but if your leg grows too much, you'll have one leg longer than the other. Then you'll just be limping around in a circle all day...

I mean the leg has potential to get more muscle, not longer lol. Besides, 1 leg longer than the other is better than being in a wheelchair with 1 leg.

 

[Lehkonen4Calder]

Rnh for Barrie? The Oilers offence will go from top of the leaugue (on paper) to the bottom

 

[La Bamba]

Rnh for Barrie? The Oilers offence will go from top of the leaugue (on paper) to the bottom

Not all offense has to come from the forwards...

 

[strictlyrandy]

I don't think he meant the Erat trade. I think he meant that Hall for Larsson is very similar in value to Johanssen for Jones. And he would be right. Hall just had a (in Chiarelli's words) sexier reputation.

I never mentioned the Jones for Johansen deal in this thread.

 

[Boxscore]

Rnh for Barrie? The Oilers offence will go from top of the leaugue (on paper) to the bottom

Barrie scores 50 on the Avs and could probably score 60 on a PP that features McDavid. What's RNH going to score, 68? Would be a great trade for Oilers.