Move Players with term, recoup picks

[DarrenBanks56]

Coyle's a strange animal. A #2.5C?

disappeared after game 4.
couldnt get the puck out and didnt pressure montour enough in the final minute of game 7. he had montour on the ropes on his backhand and didnt pressure.
i wouldnt mind him gone he makes too much for a 3rd liner

 

[Tbaybruin]

we dont have a first, second or third……so dont be worried about draft.

I think we get at least a second in a trade. Chicago has lots of cap space and I’m sure would like to have a few players to mentor and play with the next Connor.

 

[Tbaybruin]

McAvoy had 29 in 5 games banged up his shoulder in game 5 our end - ask Jess if he remembers a specific hit because he called it out as happened

McAvoy said he was good after series because all those hardos on Twitter and social media will question his manhood

Or risk Felger & Mazz’ Jim Murray going off



Charlie McAvoy had 8 hits game one & 29 basically thru game 4+ games

He was at about 7 hits thru game 4

But last half of game 5, 6, and 7 he has ZILCH

Class discuss

Ron raises hand ‘well, Charlie DNA kicked in and decided he didn’t want to hit anymore’

Hermoine who had hand raised first opines ‘I noticed Charlie get smoked into boards I believe second period and seemed to be in a bit of distress and watching go back to bench was bent over. We watched to see if he would come back out and he did but he played cautiously ’

Lou, your boy Jess on our text group called it out - even saying there goes his shoulder’

After that zero hits

I am not ready to join the Bruins mob who amazingly can’t figure out 29 hits thru 13 periods and 0 thru final 8 periods

Hmmmmm

Yeh ‘Felgy, I doh knowz ‘bout Mcvoy. He’s noh got da DNA’

Idiots

Great hitter but at 9.5 mil stop circling the net in the O zone with no results We needed some offence from him.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Ullmark to Chicago for 52 and 56. Sweeney does well in round 2.

 

[EvilDead]

disappeared after game 4.
couldnt get the puck out and didnt pressure montour enough in the final minute of game 7. he had montour on the ropes on his backhand and didnt pressure.
i wouldnt mind him gone he makes too much for a 3rd liner

Who's going to take the contract besides a bottom of the league team that Coyle probably has a no move clause to?

 

[Tbaybruin]

Wait ? We are getting rid of CC for Monahan ?

Coyle has a per TOI Is up there in Take Aways , blocked shots, puck possession - one of lowest GA in PK TOI and a 52% FO all done well the Bruins usually had the puck (often him)

Come on guys lol

Actually a drunk Bruins fan when pressed said the reason they hate Coyle is he has perfect hair

It’s really the only thing I’ve agreed with here

I like Coyle but puck possession for him means he holds on to the puck for to long and we end up with nothing.

 

[DKH]

Great hitter but at 9.5 mil stop circling the net in the O zone with no results We needed some offence from him.

I sit in back of net I never saw him circle net

I have all games on tape give me specific verifiable example I don’t recall

 

[Tbaybruin]

Easily solved with Bergeron being 38 next season and likely getting games off

Coyle becomes an underpaid first line center for 15 or so games

Those 2 games he played in Florida he was very good centering the top line in a playoff game is a bargain at $5.2 M

Was awesome but in the end 1 goal 1 apple in 7 games

 

[The don godfather]

Ullmark to Chicago for 52 and 56. Sweeney does well in round 2.

No way. Ullmark and sway give us a chance for a run in the playoffs.

 

[Tbaybruin]

No way. Ullmark and sway give us a chance for a run in the playoffs.

Well I do agree but we need space. Bussi seem ready

 

[Tbaybruin]

I sit in back of net I never saw him circle net

I have all games on tape give me specific verifiable example I don’t recall

at least 3 times he circled the net in the O zone with nothing. Sorry I deleted the games. I really like Chuck but he is not a PP guy. He just can’t put the puck in the net. His D game is the best in hockey I thought after last years point a game playoff he would dominate or at least be very good in the O zone.

 

[The don godfather]

Well I do agree but we need space. Bussi seem ready

We still have a decent enough team to make a serious run and sway and ullmark are the pillars . No way I move them.

 

[BlackFrancis]

I feel it should be said regarding Ullmark - the last time the Bruins had a Vezina winner under contract for $5m was Timmy over a decade ago. That's rewinding a lot of time and a lot of cap increases.

While his value compared to Ullmark is tough to peg, it's indisputable that Swayman would have more suitors if shopped. Theoretically, he'd get them the Schneider return, a top 10 pick. Trading Ullmark won't save them appreciably more, as Swayman's getting ~$4m on a bridge deal and Bussi likely fills the backup spot with an ELC (less savings if they don't think Bussi's ready).

Ullmark was so good this past season, I'm inclined to ignore playoff failure and keep him. They might get a killer return on Swayman. The team really isn't expected to be overly successful going forward, especially after their latest enormity vs the Panthers. And we've got ample evidence of the odd goalie going nuts in the spring and dragging his team along. And there's really nothing about Ullmark that would make you certain he's incapable, aside from a small sample of playoff games.

Plus, he's a pretty cool dude.

 

[Absurdity]

I feel it should be said regarding Ullmark - the last time the Bruins had a Vezina winner under contract for $5m was Timmy over a decade ago. That's rewinding a lot of time and a lot of cap increases.

While his value compared to Ullmark is tough to peg, it's indisputable that Swayman would have more suitors if shopped. Theoretically, he'd get them the Schneider return, a top 10 pick. Trading Ullmark won't save them appreciably more, as Swayman's getting ~$4m on a bridge deal and Bussi likely fills the backup spot with an ELC (less savings if they don't think Bussi's ready).

Ullmark was so good this past season, I'm inclined to ignore playoff failure and keep him. They might get a killer return on Swayman. The team really isn't expected to be overly successful going forward, especially after their latest enormity vs the Panthers. And we've got ample evidence of the odd goalie going nuts in the spring and dragging his team along. And there's really nothing about Ullmark that would make you certain he's incapable, aside from a small sample of playoff games.

Plus, he's a pretty cool dude.

I think the big question is, does Bussi project to be a #1 goaltender at some point?

Pros of moving Swayman: Potentially has more value than Ullmark to bring back a player that helps now or a better pick, cap percentage allocated to goalies doesn't change much, frees up a spot for Bussi to take over in the future
Cons of moving Swayman: He fits the next core's window

Pros of moving Ullmark: Might save a few million in cap space after signing Swayman, will get a decent return
Cons of moving Ullmark: The Bruins may be better suited to keep him if they go with a younger defense

 

[BlackFrancis]

I think the big question is, does Bussi project to be a #1 goaltender at some point?

The guy went from being the ECHL designee to a regular in the goalie rotation to being the lead dog of that rotation and eventually, Providence's primary playoff starter.

Dude had nothing handed to him. He just went and took it on his own. It was a remarkable progression, if you've watched Providence and Mougenel the past couple years.

Goalies are always a wildcard, but this group has proven success identifying and developing them, and they appear to believe that they've got something in Bussi.

 

[LouJersey]

I feel it should be said regarding Ullmark - the last time the Bruins had a Vezina winner under contract for $5m was Timmy over a decade ago. That's rewinding a lot of time and a lot of cap increases.

While his value compared to Ullmark is tough to peg, it's indisputable that Swayman would have more suitors if shopped. Theoretically, he'd get them the Schneider return, a top 10 pick. Trading Ullmark won't save them appreciably more, as Swayman's getting ~$4m on a bridge deal and Bussi likely fills the backup spot with an ELC (less savings if they don't think Bussi's ready).

Ullmark was so good this past season, I'm inclined to ignore playoff failure and keep him. They might get a killer return on Swayman. The team really isn't expected to be overly successful going forward, especially after their latest enormity vs the Panthers. And we've got ample evidence of the odd goalie going nuts in the spring and dragging his team along. And there's really nothing about Ullmark that would make you certain he's incapable, aside from a small sample of playoff games.

Plus, he's a pretty cool dude.

I like them both enough, but I would like to see swayman as a lead dog and not a guy who has had to come in two play-offs in a row to try to bail out Ullmark. The sample size is small but there is nothing about his performance that makes having Ullmark as my play-off goalie. Swayman does have two game 7 losses (thanks McAvoy, great tip, should put you in front of the Bruins PP) but he was only in there because Linus spit the bit. I do agree about trade values, and looking around the league at teams still in the play-offs is anyone even going to spend alot of assets on one? Goalies may be going the RB route now.

 

[DKH]

Was awesome but in the end 1 goal 1 apple in 7 games

Dom the stat guy NHL from Athletic with eye chart for last name said best third line center in NHL

It’s his full time job and he’s supposedly the best so I lay down my wooden Northland

With Marchand and DeBrusk games 3 & 4 it was like watching 1970’s Red Army puck possession

 

[capecodder]

Any idea what will happen with Frederic. Wasn't impressed at all. Brought almost no physical play and I don't think he had any points. Bring Looch back at team friendly rate if Bergy comes back. Need some physicality on the fourth line

 

[Bodit9]

I like them both enough, but I would like to see swayman as a lead dog and not a guy who has had to come in two play-offs in a row to try to bail out Ullmark. The sample size is small but there is nothing about his performance that makes having Ullmark as my play-off goalie. Swayman does have two game 7 losses (thanks McAvoy, great tip, should put you in front of the Bruins PP) but he was only in there because Linus spit the bit. I do agree about trade values, and looking around the league at teams still in the play-offs is anyone even going to spend alot of assets on one? Goalies may be going the RB route now.

Totally agreed about Ullmark in playoffs, doesn't seem to have the "it" factor for it. Plus with our cap issues and Bussi looking ready, it makes sense to trade Ullmark for assets and go with the two young guys.

 

[BruinDust]

I think the big question is, does Bussi project to be a #1 goaltender at some point?

Pros of moving Swayman: Potentially has more value than Ullmark to bring back a player that helps now or a better pick, cap percentage allocated to goalies doesn't change much, frees up a spot for Bussi to take over in the future
Cons of moving Swayman: He fits the next core's window

Pros of moving Ullmark: Might save a few million in cap space after signing Swayman, will get a decent return
Cons of moving Ullmark: The Bruins may be better suited to keep him if they go with a younger defense

I think it's time to stop looking at labeling goaltenders.

The days of one guy playing 50-60 games and 4 rounds of playoffs to win a cup are basically over. Heck, it's getting to the point where you really want 3 guys who you have some trust in.

 

[TSBruins13]

Hate to say it but we need some straight up enforcers on this team. Grab Kurtis MacDermid for 3rd pairing. We have youth in the d core who can log the minutes

 

[capecodder]

Hate to say it but we need some straight up enforcers on this team. Grab Kurtis MacDermid for 3rd pairing. We have youth in the d core who can log the minutes

Him and Looch will do nicely thank you

 

[TCB]

We still have a decent enough team to make a serious run and sway and Ullmark are the pillars . No way I move them.

 

[BruinDust]

Hate to say it but we need some straight up enforcers on this team. Grab Kurtis MacDermid for 3rd pairing. We have youth in the d core who can log the minutes

21 skaters had between 7 and 14 fights in the NHL this season.

Not a single one of them is playing in the 2nd round of the Stanley Cup playoffs.

Most didn't even make the playoffs.

TB had 3 of the Top 7, and they are golfing. 32 fights between Perry, Jeannot, and Maroon. And still couldn't get past the Leafs who people here claim are too soft and skilled on a daily basis.

Of the 53 players who had 4 fights or more, ONLY SIX remain standing in the playoffs. Including Givano Smith who can't even get into Florida's line-up.

Seems like employing Enforcer-types doesn't have much correlation to playoff success.

 

[UncleRico]

They will get him signed hes a bruin fan favorite now.

I sure hope so, Don!