A contract that no other team will take on without the Leafs eating some of it.
You’re right. The goalie was bad on that shot but Rielly showed no hustle to get back to get his stick in the way of the shot. What about the third goal. What’s the excuse for Rielly’s ineptness on that one ?
Very interesting. There has to be more to this than the excuse that he is much lower because he's been on the ice for empty net goals or shorthanded goals, particularly when you compare him to our other dmen. Tanev and McCabe are on against the other team's first units and they have a combined +30. They're not lighting it up offensively yet their goal differential when they're on the ice is exceptional. It boils down to the fact that Rielly has not been a very good defenceman this season. There is no justification other than he's got his head up his arse.
I’m not sure the Leafs are taking direction from their fans.
No, they're not. Thankfully, considering some of the misguided venom spewed towards Rielly in this thread.
Justified criticism is hardly venom. Thankfully Leafs management actually wants to win and doesn't have the low expectations some Leafs fans have grown accustomed to. Unfortunately there are fans who care more about individual players than team success.
Nobody cares about individual players over team success. Very few of the criticisms thrown around in this thread have been justified. Leafs management does want to win. That's why they're going to keep Rielly.
If they make the right trade for a RD. McCabe can play LD with Tanev and Rielly might be in the press box.
I have. Your turn.
We have shown to be a better defensive team when he’s not in the line up it isn’t a coincidence
Not sure how you think that's been shown. Reilly has been a big part of our defense in our best defensive years. There's also more to hockey than just defense.
As a defender wouldn’t you say you should be able to atleast defend ? There is more to it which he also can’t seem to do if he isn’t playing as a rover
If what you say is true that management wants to win. The record of 1 single round win in the last 9 years can only led to the conclusion that they are simply incompetent and the one common denominator is Shanny………he must go.
Reilly can and does defend. He takes on the most minutes on the team, takes on the worst partners on the team, and is putting up better defensive results this year than half our regular defensemen. Now, that's not to say that defending is Rielly's relative strength. It's not. But that's not all defensemen do. They have offensive and transition responsibilities too, and Rielly is quite good at those aspects.
It mainly says that people don't understand how +/- works and they should stop jumping to conclusions based on such a bad stat.
Everyone understands +/-. It means you are on for either more goals against then for or the reverse.
I am not making excuses for Rielly he clearly is da weak link in our defense this year .. I don't think he will last more than 2 years in league with his skating drop off .. he has no defensive skills to fall back on to maintain his spot in league .. my guess we are gonna get stuck and/or buy him out in next 2 years
Considering that a lot of people around here still think of it as a defensive stat, no, they don't understand it. It also doesn't include every goal, and gets skewed by the situations you play. He's -14 from playing PP and goalie pulled situations, which says very little about him. He's -2 otherwise, for pretty much the complete opposite reason than a bunch of people are claiming.
