Morgan Rielly suspended for five games for cross-checking Ridly Greig in the head (Mod note in OP); upd: Rielly appealing his suspension (upheld)

[MCR74]

It was the same action. The consequences were less severe for the victim due to Greig seeing it coming where Turgeon did not. Lucky for Greig. Though, lucky for Rielly too, I suppose, since the DoPS punishes by result and not action, mostly.

Keep making excuses.

 

[brentashton]

This has been a thing for a number of years. Players can be offered an in person hearing but decline to attend it in person and do it via zoom.

Humor.

 

[Korpse]

Humor.

I am humourless.

 

[viper0220]

Should have been more.

 

[v00d00daddy]

They can't appeal 5 games. The 6th game grants the right to appeal from an independent arbitrator. Im sure Batman wants this shit out of the game, so hes not gonna listen to an appeal

Ahh ok. Didn’t know that. Thought it was all in persons were open to appeal

Thanks

 

[Hextallent63]

I'm flyers fan so i can relate, but all you Leafs fans getting on Sens fans for there teams accomplishments and lack of success need to simmer down. Last time they made the finals was when they won.

Team	Years	Start Year	Drought Start
Toronto Maple Leafs	56	1968	Won 1967 Final
Buffalo Sabres	53	1971	Joined NHL
Vancouver Canucks	53	1971	Joined NHL
Philadelphia Flyers	48	1976	Won 1975 Final
Arizona Coyotes	44	1980	Joined NHL
New York Islanders	40	1984	Won 1983 Final
Calgary Flames	34	1990	Won 1989 Final
Edmonton Oilers	33	1991	Won 1990 Final
San Jose Sharks	32	1992	Joined NHL
Ottawa Senators	31	1993	Joined NHL

 

[v00d00daddy]

What would they appeal it over though? It will just be a rehash of Persons's appeal which was denied

They’ve appealed the suspension length as being excessive. Just like they did, and won, when Spezza was dealt 6 and it went down to 4

But maybe they can’t because it was 5 that was dealt out. I’m gonna look for it after the leafs crap the bed in the 3rd and lose a game where they’ve been dominating one of the hottest teams in the league lol

Oh being a leafs fan is fun

 

[Strangle]

I'm flyers fan so i can relate, but all you Leafs fans getting on Sens fans for there teams accomplishments and lack of success need to simmer down. Last time they made the finals was when they won.

Team	Years	Start Year	Drought Start
Toronto Maple Leafs	56	1968	Won 1967 Final
Buffalo Sabres	53	1971	Joined NHL
Vancouver Canucks	53	1971	Joined NHL
Philadelphia Flyers	48	1976	Won 1975 Final
Arizona Coyotes	44	1980	Joined NHL
New York Islanders	40	1984	Won 1983 Final
Calgary Flames	34	1990	Won 1989 Final
Edmonton Oilers	33	1991	Won 1990 Final
San Jose Sharks	32	1992	Joined NHL
Ottawa Senators	31	1993	Joined NHL

It’s pretty hilarious that sens fans somehow think chirping leaf fans over Stanley cups is a flex or something

I don’t think I’ve ever heard a leaf fan chirp another team for not winning a cup recently enough, but all the other teams on that list have fans that would bring that up to a leaf fan

It’s …. Pathetic

 

[SanderSen]

Wow, if this is between Winnipeg and San Jose it is a passing mention on the sports networks, but it is the Leafs so we need a Royal Commision.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

They can't appeal 5 games. The 6th game grants the right to appeal from an independent arbitrator. Im sure Batman wants this shit out of the game, so hes not gonna listen to an appeal

Ability to appeal is a moot point because Bettman will simply avoid responding to the appeal until the suspension has already been served (like he did with Perron). The player can try and claw back some money but Bettman will likely reject that as well.

It's a pretty nice loophole he built for himself to negate appeals.

 

[Micklebot]

They’ve appealed the the suspension length as being excessive. Just like they did, and won when Spezza was dealt 6 and it went down to 4

You need to provide a rationale for why it's excessive, the league will point to Perron as an almost identical comparable that got a game more and stood up against appeal. Perron even sat the majority of the game he was ejected from while Rielly didn't miss a shift, you could argue the ejection in the first period is worse than an extra game since it has a bigger impact with your team playing a man short not to mention the power play

An appeal isn't going anywhere,

 

[Natey]

A number of posters in this thread are just embarrassing themselves saying stupid shit like "Rielly should have gotten a 10 game suspension". Newsflash: he has zero history of suspensions or fines prior to this incident. 10 game suspensions are reserved pretty much exclusively for serial offenders who commit egregious infractions, and even then, bans of that length are still uncommon. Even Brad Marchand, who is the most suspended player in NHL history, has never received a 10 game suspension (his longest is 6).

What an embarassing take. Good to know you like a stupid circus rather than a game of hockey. Thankfully, I won't have to see your reply.

 

[ToDavid]

Last time they made the finals was when they won.

Is that part important?

 

[Hivemind]

Should have been at least 10

 

[Czechboy]

They’ve appealed the suspension length as being excessive. Just like they did, and won, when Spezza was dealt 6 and it went down to 4

But maybe they can’t because it was 5 that was dealt out. I’m gonna look for it after the leafs crap the bed in the 3rd and lose a game where they’ve been dominating one of the hottest teams in the league lol

Oh being a leafs fan is fun

Definitely research it

BUT

My understanding (which could be wrong) is that 5 is Bettman and his decision. So he can listen with that smug look and thank you for your time but he is the final call with no reprecussions.

Part of me thinks that is why it was 5 and not 6.

 

[BagHead]

Keep making excuses.

I'm not sure how to respond to this, since I wasn't making any excuses, I was just looking at the videos, posting what I saw, and relaying the results. I thought it was sort of funny that these days everyone talks about the NHL getting softer, and yet these two punishments have such a disparity. I really don't have enough emotional attachment to this to make excuses. A suspension was earned, a suspension was given, and that's fine.

 

[CanadienShark]

Fair. I won't start arguing about how many games is enough, but the rationale for the suspension is totally fair in my opinion.

 

[Alex1234]

Lady Bingless

 

[v00d00daddy]

You need to provide a rationale for why it's excessive, the league will point to Perron as an almost identical comparable that got a game more and stood up against appeal. Perron even sat the majority of the game he was ejected from while Rielly didn't miss a shift, you could argue the ejection in the first period is worse than an extra game since it has a bigger impact with your team playing a man short not to mention the power play

An appeal isn't going anywhere,

An appeal isn’t happening because it had to be 6+

But they can appeal just to argue that the decision is excessive.

 

[Puck Tiss]

Rielly is not that good of a defensemen anyway, 5 games wont affect them too much

 

[v00d00daddy]

Definitely research it

BUT

My understanding (which could be wrong) is that 5 is Bettman and his decision. So he can listen with that smug look and thank you for your time but he is the final call with no reprecussions.

Part of me thinks that is why it was 5 and not 6.

Yeah. He knows what he’s doing. Gives 6 and he knew an appeal would be coming and just extend the justified criticism of the DoPS

Instead he can say gtfo lol

 

[Micklebot]

An appeal isn’t happening because it had to be 6+

But they can appeal just to argue that the decision is excessive.

They can appeal to the commissioner directly, 6+ allows them to go to an arbiter, but they need to justify their position that it's excessive, just Perron tried, and it will go nowhere because it's in line with the most recent comparable which was about as close as it gets contextually.

 

[swiftwin]

You traded the 7th, 39th and a 3rd for 1 season of Debrincat (missing the playoffs), a mid 1st rd pick at best, a cap dump and a 4th

That might as well be a rental

That's.... not a rental.

 

[ElysiumAB]

I mean he did do something. That's not up for debate.

I did nothing against the rules or even in a gray area or the rules.

 

[Incognito]

What an embarassing take. Good to know you like a stupid circus rather than a game of hockey. Thankfully, I won't have to see your reply.

I simply quoted facts. Either refute my points or miss me with your embarrassing takes.