Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Nostradumbass]

Less than 10 years ago…. Most teams react in this way

Can you slow down the video a bit? I missed the crosscheck to the face.

 

[The90]

"We worked really hard to accomplish our goal of obtaining respect from around the league, and Grieg just took it away from us"

Best part is only 1 team meets the very low bar of ‘respect’ for being a good team. The other is about to miss the playoffs, again lol

 

[All Mod Cons]

Did you know, since 2009-10 season, the Leafs are not the team with the most suspensions?

Not hard to Find the odd duckling from that group lol

They are with Georgie Porgie pudding and pie in charge.

 

[Cogburn]

Toronto is upset that they're getting more attention for their player being an absolute knob on a national broadcast that is forced down the throats of the rest of the country. Fans, staff and players then proceed to bend over backwards to defend Rielly, making the whole franchise look even worse then Rielly did. Then the mind frame is that the league, or DOPS, or the world, or whoever, has it out for the Leafs to make them look bad or what ever...as someone with no stake in this, it's mind bending.

As a side note, can someone explain to me how a slap shot on an empty net is some how disrespectful, and deserving of a "response" of any kind?

 

[Some Other Flame]

 

[NyQuil]

Some do, yes. Not all.

For example, I've never seen Jacques Martin have a hissy fit because the other team tried too hard.

It's really only a few teams or a few players.

I often see teams put their star player with 2 goals out in the ice looking for a hat trick when it's a blowout. No one seems to care for the most part.

Only a few loose cannon types might have issues. This is the NHL. Players have bonuses. Stars want their cookies. They'll keep playing and putting up numbers even in a blowout.

Sometimes you want your PP to get some looks and practice in, particularly if they’ve been struggling.

The whole “don’t put your units out late” stuff is dumb.

Don’t take penalties if you don’t want PP goals against.

Don’t pull the goalie if you don’t want someone to shoot the puck hard into it.

A lot of these code infractions are self-inflicted.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

someone seems a bit obsessed lol

 

[Petrus]

Again, I cant take the Leafs organization, or it's fans for that matter seriously, talking about "Hockey Code" and this being disrespectful when your team did this

Maple Leafs facing criticism for how they handled blowout win over rival

The Toronto Maple Leafs are facing some criticism for their handling of a 7-1 blowout win over rival Montreal on Saturday night.

www.yardbarker.com

If the intent of the Leafs organization was to show up their opponent you are absolutely right.

In this instance the intent was to allow a kid to realize his dream of playing in the NHL. Keefe made it happen even if it was a brief ~40 seconds. There was no taunting or show boating. The kid just got to live a dream that would not be possible under any other circumstances.

 

[Voight]

CBC should be no longer a thing in the NHL.

It should be outlawed to have announcers from Toronto. So biased.

Reilly getting 3 games. Bookmark this

CBC isn't a thing in the NHL. Rogers licenses HNIC and allows them to air the games but they hire the staff, run the production, approve everything etc.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

They are with Georgie Porgie pudding and pie in charge.

False.

Washington has more since parros became the man

 

[BTO]

Weird take. So your saying that what Rielly did was justified because he is such a soft player as to not even know how to body check an opposing player. Instead having to resort to cross checking him in the head because his feefees were hurt. To top it off you have the nerve to imply the people who don't understand this should start watching figure skating instead.

I really don't think your post had the desired effect you think it does.

No, I'm saying I have no problem with some sort of response, because responses to similar situations happen all the time in sports. It simply does (maybe not in figure skating tho. Well, maybe once). However, I don't think that the guy should've gotten crosschecked in the head though. My point was simply that Rielly *is* soft , "Lady-Byng candidate" and all, so he's not used to actually hitting anyone so when he tried he f***ed-up and caught the guy in the head.

 

[Maple Leaf]

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Don't reach into that popcorn

 

[DustyDangler]

Yea it's certainly possible, but the Wings have a continued tough stretch here up till March. Colorado a couple of times, Vancouver again, Edmonton, so who knows how that is going to play out. And Tampa losing Serg for the season has to catch up to them at some point. Unless Kucherov is going to keep dragging them into the playoffs.

'Tis more about the Islanders (3-5-2) and NJ (3-6-1) and they don't seem to be anxious to grab a spot.

 

[PatrickEaves]

See, Friedman tried to make it about fan biases when it’s actually pretty clear.

The same dude that said Sens fans don't have souls?

 

[BTO]

Just IMO (and I love old school hockey) - there is a HUGE difference between a hit during the course of a play - and going after someone's head when the play is dead. YMMV.

I didn't say he should have gone after his head. I said he shouldn't have gone after his head. Give him a shot to the ribs or or something. You know, *something*. But no, not a crosscheck to the head. Not once have I suggested that.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Tangentially related but what should be the response for these incidents if the offending player refuses to drop the gloves, or should teams look the other way?

-player scores a goal and goes to fist bump the opposing goalie or opposing bench
-player does a spinorama/between the legs shot on an empty net break away
-player taunts opposing player who just had a tragedy with his wife or child about said tragedy
-away player scores a goal and pulls a Terrell Owens on home teams logo at center ice and mimics urinating/defecating/masturbating on the logo

There's definitely a group that probably believes a player shouldn't have to answer for any of these. They also probably use the word "epic" a lot.

In an age where prank videos get millions of hits, there's a whole lot of people who feel they shouldn't have to face the consequences of pissing people off just for kicks.

 

[Korpse]

The guy's not wrong.

The only thing the Leafs have ever been good at is leading the NHL in suspensions.

They are also the softest.

The irony here is that it’s more the Leafs side keeping the lights on. The insistent need to justify the actions is driving discussion. Keefe calling it appropriate in the post game, Reaves calling it appropriate 2 days later, fans jumping through hoops, these are thing that keep people talking about it.

 

[BTO]

Below is a baseball example. Every sport has an expectation of sportsmanship (though sportsmanship seems to decline each year). You want to hot dog and talk crap as you're rounding the bases...some folks will take issue with that and the response may or may not be proportionate.

It's unsportsmanlike to kick people when they are down, whether you are hot dogging around the bases, doing batflips, doing a windmill slam dunk, or clappers to an open net...have a little humility and act like you've been there before or someone may behave unsportsmanlike in response.

Apparently not in figure skating tho (except once), which is what many here seem to be watching instead of hockey.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

I don’t think I said that at all… it’s a question of intent, not force. Clearly there was quite a bit of force to the head and neck.

There is no question about either.

 

[Maple Leaf]

4,077 posts for a non-story

 

[Relapsing]

Not hard to Find the odd duckling from that group lol

Is that so?

Because San Jose has 21

Buffalo, Edmonton, Montreal and Vancouver have 18

They still looking like an odd duckling to you? Doesn't look like much of a statistical outlier to me when, over the course of 15 seasons, there is less than 1 suspension/season difference between the top 9 suspended teams.

Want to look at teams that have 16 and 15 suspensions during that timeframe? I guarantee it's not gonna make it look any better.

Hey, maybe looking at the most suspended leafs players during that period will tell you they were the odd ducklings:

Kadri: 5
Carter: 2
Clarkson: 2


... Nope.

#NHLsuspensionfacts

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

The guy's not wrong.

The only thing the Leafs have ever been good at is leading the NHL in suspensions.

They are also the softest.

Keefe is practically always whining and deflecting, or smirking insolently when his players make an egregious play such as this.

Earlier in this thread it has been shown clearly Toronto is very hardly leading the NHL is suspensions under Parros.

 

[PunchImlach is Alive]

Doubt Rielly does this if it weren't for the bloodlust of the Toronto fanbase. Nothing will change unless the league does the right thing and starts banning Leaf fans from games and police start bringing charges for their gross behavior.

 

[NyQuil]

Tangentially related but what should be the response for these incidents if the offending player refuses to drop the gloves, or should teams look the other way?

-player scores a goal and goes to fist bump the opposing goalie or opposing bench
-player does a spinorama/between the legs shot on an empty net break away
-player taunts opposing player who just had a tragedy with his wife or child about said tragedy
-away player scores a goal and pulls a Terrell Owens on home teams logo at center ice and mimics urinating/defecating/masturbating on the logo

Literally happens all the time in basketball.

It’s when a lot of the more spectacular dunks happen.

I guess the video cuts off before the other team beats the crap out of him.

Tangentially, some HFers are constantly wringing their hands about why NHL isn’t cool like the NBA and those same folks would probably want the guy to do a simple layup if they applied the NHL code.

 

[RickyLafleur]

The same dude that said Sens fans don't have souls?

Thanks for the laugh, forgot about that gem.