Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[pcruz]

I dunno, I'm not the one inferring criticism here when none was spoken.

"Hey mister savvy veteran of many many years, a very dirty act was enacted on a rookie player on your team tonight. Will you go on the record and state that you don't think it was a good response to whatever he did out there?"


"I think emotions got the better of him out there and....."




What he would have said if he thought it was a nothing play:

"I just don't know what he was doing. It was a dead play after an empty net goal. To attack him in the head is shameful. I wouldn't have thought that from Reilly, but it was a very bad decision to attack a rookie for that".



Hmmm, I don't think there's an parallel to those.

 

[Kegu]

Yes, did you see Ovechkin's EN tonight? He didn't slap it in from 5 meters, did he? Because that is how 99% of EN are scored. Typically is not the most sporting thing to do.

Anyway, I'm defending against anyone who thinks Rielly is a dirty player and intended to hit him above the shoulder. He did get him high, and he'll be missing some games, but the other fan groups milking it are kind of amusing.

You dont have to be a dirty player to make a stupid decision, but you don't hit someone that high without some intent.

 

[pb1300]

Yes, did you see Ovechkin's EN tonight? He didn't slap it in from 5 meters, did he? Because that is how 99% of EN are scored. Typically is not the most sporting thing to do.

Anyway, I'm defending against anyone who thinks Rielly is a dirty player and intended to hit him above the shoulder. He did get him high, and he'll be missing some games, but the other fan groups milking it are kind of amusing.

Ovie had a guy on him and had to fully extend to tap the puck into the empty net, irrelevant to the Greig goal.

Even if Ovie slapped it in, I would have no issue with the opposing player going at him, and starting some shit. NOBODY is denying that here.

What is crazy is Leafs fans here actually defending Rielly's approach. Just imaging the outrage if Matthews slapped the ENer, and then they took a run at him, crosschecking him in the face. I doubt you all would be defending that crosscheck then.

Maybe, just maybe, if the Leafs actually showed some heart, and fight, teams wouldnt feel this comfortable doing things like Greig's EN slapper.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Are there any Leafs fans that don't think it warrants at least a 1 game suspension?

Would love to hear from you.

I think it should result in a fine, but not suspension.

 

[HTFN]

"Hey mister savvy veteran of many many years, a very dirty act was enacted on a rookie player on your team tonight. Will you go on the record and state that you don't think it was a good response to whatever he did out there?"


"I think emotions got the better of him out there and....."




What he would have said if he thought it was a nothing play:

"I just don't know what he was doing. It was a dead play after an empty net goal. To attack him in the head is shameful. I wouldn't have thought that from Reilly, but it was a very bad decision to attack a rookie for that".



Hmmm, I don't think there's an parallel to those.

You're putting a ton of words in peoples' mouths to make an argument that hinges on one guy on the Senators potentially trying to downplay the issue as a leader who has seen this a time or two in Philly.

We all have eyes. We know this wasn't okay. Stop trying to carve this weird space where "true veterans" are cool with Reilly going high after a goal because it "wasn't by the code".

 

[Rare Jewel]

That's not how that works at all.

What exactly? Rielly doesn't usually "see red" and go after people does he?

 

[HTFN]

Ovie had a guy on him and had to fully extend to tap the puck into the empty net, irrelevant to the Greig goal.

Even if Ovie slapped it in, I would have no issue with the opposing player going at him, and starting some shit. NOBODY is denying that here.

What is crazy is Leafs fans here actually defending Rielly's approach. Just imaging the outrage if Matthews slapped the ENer, and then they took a run at him, crosschecking him in the face. I doubt you all would be defending that crosscheck then.

Maybe, just maybe, if the Leafs actually showed some heart, and fight, teams wouldnt feel this comfortable doing things like Greig's EN slapper.

This too.

Go have a chat, get in his face, start some shit that can carry over for next time.

You absolutely don't get to just go try and end a guy's night like that.

 

[notsocommonsense]

Are there any Leafs fans that don't think it warrants at least a 1 game suspension?

Would love to hear from you.

It would be pretty hard to justify less than 2 given Zadorov got 2 on the same day for a hit to the head when he was at least attempting a hockey play. Reilly isn’t attempting a hockey play at all. Add to that Zadorov missed most of today’s game while Reilly missed nothing. 3 games seems appropriate.

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

"Hey mister savvy veteran of many many years, a very dirty act was enacted on a rookie player on your team tonight. Will you go on the record and state that you don't think it was a good response to whatever he did out there?"


"I think emotions got the better of him out there and....."




What he would have said if he thought it was a nothing play:

"I just don't know what he was doing. It was a dead play after an empty net goal. To attack him in the head is shameful. I wouldn't have thought that from Reilly, but it was a very bad decision to attack a rookie for that".



Hmmm, I don't think there's an parallel to those.

Yes I'm sure you know what exactly what G would say. The game is over, they won. Greig wasn't injured, and they don't even play again this season. Why would a "savvy veteran of many many years" stir shit up again in the media? Why are we making up fanfic now?

 

[Kegu]

What exactly? Rielly doesn't usually "see red" and go after people does he?

How many times does it need to be repeated that no matter what kind of show boating or unsportsmanlike behavior happens. A CROSSCHECK TO THE HEAD IS NOT WARRANTED.

 

[pcruz]

You're putting a ton of words in peoples' mouths to make an argument that hinges on one guy on the Senators potentially trying to downplay the issue as a leader who has seen this a time or two in Philly.

We all have eyes. We know this wasn't okay. Stop trying to carve this weird space where "true veterans" are cool with Reilly going high after a goal because it "wasn't by the code".

When given the chance to condone the action of Morgan Reilly - a player from an opponent - he refused to, and partially blamed his own teammate.

Yes, giant leap from this to thinking he didn't like the slap shot.


Some people are so blinded by hatred for the Leafs they deny reality.

 

[HTFN]

What exactly? Rielly doesn't usually "see red" and go after people does he?

And after all the things Leafs fans talk about having to deal with and how everything is hedged against them, this was the thing that made him see red? Really? We saying that's really worse than all the "Parros bias" hits that Reilly has just ignored and not gotten this type of engaged with?

That's what we're saying here? You guys really think a slapshot into an empty net is worse than the supposed bias against your team in the DOPS and that's why Reilly just lost it here instead of eventually taking one of those dirty hitters to task?

 

[Divine]

I mean he sounds just as much as referring to how Greig scores with "sometimes that just happens, fans involved heat of the game etc"

We're referencing different interviews.

This is the interview I'm referencing. It was Giroux interviewed by the HNIC panel before he went to the dressing room:

 

[HTFN]

When given the chance to condone the action of Morgan Reilly - a player from an opponent - he refused to, and partially blamed his own teammate.

Yes, giant leap from this to thinking he didn't like the slap shot.


Some people are so blinded by hatred for the Leafs they deny reality.

Again, nobody has quoted me the question. Nobody asked Giroux "do you think Greig deserved what he got from Reilly", they asked if he thought Greig should have done what he did. They, to my knowledge, didn't ask (or it hasn't been posted) about what Giroux thinks about what Reilly did at all but I bet it's not glowing and positive.

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

When given the chance to condone the action of Morgan Reilly - a player from an opponent - he refused to, and partially blamed his own teammate.

Yes, giant leap from this to thinking he didn't like the slap shot.


Some people are so blinded by hatred for the Leafs they deny reality.

You talk about reality but you're literally making up words for someone you've never even met in your life

 

[helax]

I think it should result in a fine, but not suspension.

My mind is blown

 

[pcruz]

This too.

Go have a chat, get in his face, start some shit that can carry over for next time.

You absolutely don't get to just go try and end a guy's night like that.

Were you of this same opinion when Gudas yelled in the Leaf's rookie goalie's face after eliminating them last year?

There wasn't a response after that.

Were you out there defending the "soft as baby shit" Leafs for having a sensible response to the obvious mocking of a rookie?

Or were you part of the crowd laughing at Toronto for not having a backbone and responding to these kinds of incidents?


Seems like regardless of what side of the spectrum of responses Toronto is on, it's the wrong one.

 

[Rare Jewel]

Ovie had a guy on him and had to fully extend to tap the puck into the empty net, irrelevant to the Greig goal.

Even if Ovie slapped it in, I would have no issue with the opposing player going at him, and starting some shit. NOBODY is denying that here.

What is crazy is Leafs fans here actually defending Rielly's approach. Just imaging the outrage if Matthews slapped the ENer, and then they took a run at him, crosschecking him in the face. I doubt you all would be defending that crosscheck then.

Maybe, just maybe, if the Leafs actually showed some heart, and fight, teams wouldnt feel this comfortable doing things like Greig's EN slapper.

If Matthews or Marner slapped a puck like that into an empty net I would expect a response similar to what Rielly or even Domi did tonight.

and what does fighting have to do with this. Who's fighting who exactly?

 

[Leaf Fans]

I hope every EN scored on Toronto is like that from now on. The reaction from Leafs fans is comical. They are such victims until they love being a villain. Cognitive dissonance runs deep with those children.

They won't be, hadn't been in the past. Players know better with exception of those that as you say "are such victims until they love being a villain. Cognitive dissonance runs deep with those children" like Greig tonight. Though you erroneously apply the phrase to Leaf fans in general or perhaps just me.

 

[HTFN]

Were you of this same opinion when Gudas yelled in the Leaf's rookie goalie's face after eliminating them last year?

There wasn't a response after that.

Were you out there defending the "soft as baby shit" Leafs for having a sensible response to the obvious mocking of a rookie?

Or were you part of the crowd laughing at Toronto for not having a backbone and responding to these kinds of incidents?


Seems like regardless of what side of the spectrum of responses Toronto is on, it's the wrong one.

Crosschecking a guy in the head isn't showing a backbone, it's literally spineless.

If I was part of the crowd laughing at them for not having a backbone I'd be doubling down on laughing thinking this is how you show it.

 

[Xspyrit]

I know who he is and I can assure you that he is a human.

Ok and? Do you think he is afraid of… Morgan Rielly?

He is just a rookie. He'll mature.

The poster was clearly talking about Reilly lol

Dude, you need to stop, your takes in this thread are ultra embarrassing. Rielly actually looks like Einstein in comparison…

 

[pcruz]

Again, nobody has quoted me the question. Nobody asked Giroux "do you think Greig deserved what he got from Reilly", they asked if he thought Greig should have done what he did. They, to my knowledge, didn't ask (or it hasn't been posted) about what Giroux thinks about what Reilly did at all but I bet it's not glowing and positive.

So...


you're basing an argument on an interview you haven't heard?

 

[Leaf Fans]

My mind is blown

That is an unfortunate thing to happen.

 

[SharksCyclops]

They won't be, hadn't been in the past. Players know better with exception of those that as you say "are such victims until they love being a villain. Cognitive dissonance runs deep with those children" like Greig tonight. Though you erroneously apply the phrase to Leaf fans in general or perhaps just me.

Victim complex confirmed...Please don't crosscheck me in the head for hurting your feelings

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

We're referencing different interviews.

This is the interview I'm referencing. It was Giroux interviewed by the HNIC panel before he went to the dressing room:

?? Okay sure but I'm not here much of a difference? He's still asked about the entire thing, even when offered to talk about one or the other.