Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

What are you talking about? He even referenced that the crowd might have pumped him up. He's clearly talking about Greig, the game was in Ottawa.

He said the "fans were getting into it" and it "was an intense game, the fans were involved", where does he say anything about the crowd pumping up Greig? I'm literally quoting him verbatim.

 

[Karma Police]

Cross-Check to shoulder


It's clearly a cross-check to the shoulder which rides up to the head after the Sens player moves his hands up.

It will be a suspension, but to compare this to Turgeon and Hunter is asinine.

Goal was scored, play is dead.

So now everytime a goal is scored someone is gonna lose their teeths?

 

[SimpleJack]

No, it doesn't, but don't act like Greig is some angel.

How can you possibly be offended by the way in which a breakaway skater puts the puck into an empty net??

 

[jproilfan]

Honestly this should be minimum 10 games

 

[pcruz]

He said the "fans were getting into it" and it "was an intense game, the fans were involved", where does he say anything about the crowd pumping up Greig?

You're delusional if you don't think Giroux was criticizing his teammate in that interview.

There was nothing in his disposition during and after the question was phrased, twice for clarification, that showed he was in favour of the slap shot.

A veteran like Giroux would not be in favour of that kind of act, and he said just as much on live television to the country.

 

[Xspyrit]

Greig would have lay on the ground until one of his teammates cane and got him.

You clearly have no idea who Greig is. He’s a wolf

 

[HTFN]

Cross-Check to shoulder


It's clearly a cross-check to the shoulder which rides up to the head after the Sens player moves his hands up.

It will be a suspension, but to compare this to Turgeon and Hunter is asinine.

You are responsible for your stick at all times. Reilly's right hand is so goddamn high it's ridiculous for "giving somebody notice", that could be done through the waist into the wall with some extra words and gloves thrown for good measure. Would be appropriate and not way the f*** overboard.

He teed off in like the top 15% of the guy's entire mass.

 

[Divine]

He said the "fans were getting into it" and it "was an intense game, the fans were involved", where does he say anything about the crowd pumping up Greig?

What would the Senators fans getting involved have to do with Rielly retaliating on Greig?

 

[Rare Jewel]

So there is an unwritten rule to never slap shot an empty net, in a 1 goal game, against a rival in your home arena....yet there isnt one for crosschecking a defenseless player in the head? Maybe because its a DIRTY F'NG PLAY.

44 pages, and Leafs fans are still the ONLY people defending this. Hmmm, I wonder why.

Yes, did you see Ovechkin's EN tonight? He didn't slap it in from 5 meters, did he? Because that is how 99% of EN are scored. Typically is not the most sporting thing to do.

Anyway, I'm defending against anyone who thinks Rielly is a dirty player and intended to hit him above the shoulder. He did get him high, and he'll be missing some games, but the other fan groups milking it are kind of amusing.

 

[Leaf Fans]

Sore loser. Bad look. Lost a lot of respect for him.

He is just a rookie. He'll mature. Besides, it was an over reaction on Rielly's part.

 

[Korpse]

Obviously the fact the league takes the argument of the main point of contact and then makes a judgement on it seems to imply it is a factor.

That's a play where a crosscheck to the back/neck drives the players head into the ice, as a subsequent result. It was never a consideration of this very different circumstance.

 

[Kegu]

Yeah, so Detroit argued it and failed.

Obviously the fact the league takes the argument of the main point of contact and then makes a judgement on it seems to imply it is a factor.

I wasn't talking about Perron though.

Here's another argument where a player successfully argued his intent was different than what occurred, which the league accepted, resulting in a lower suspension.



I'm simply arguing that whether it hits the head first, if accepted, does play a role.

I think there are a lot of parallels to the Perron hit, Greig also raises his arm out, and Rielly clearly has his stick up at an unacceptable level.

 

[Non Player Canadiens]

just head back to the locker room you lil ****, no need to throw a tantrum there. oh no it was a slap shot!!!

 

[Leaf Fans]

You clearly have no idea who Greig is. He’s a wolf

I know who he is and I can assure you that he is a human.

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

What would the Senators fans getting involved have to do with Rielly retaliating on Greig?

Who said he's talking about Senators fans? He said the fans were involved inferring it was emotional, you know with all the Leafs fans you guys like pointing out in the building. Crosschecking someone is a heat of the moment emotional play.

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

This is worse than Zadorov's play which got 2 games...

So he's get a fine.

 

[pcruz]

You are responsible for your stick at all times. Reilly's right hand is so goddamn high it's ridiculous for "giving somebody notice", that could be done through the waist into the wall with some extra words and gloves thrown for good measure. Would be appropriate and not way the f*** overboard.

He teed off in like the top 15% of the guy's entire mass.

That's what is at stake here, really.

The question should be whether Reilly is responsible for a lesser infraction being exacerbated into a more egregious one, or whether he intended to commit the more serious infraction.


From video evidence, it seems likely that the former is correct.

If deemed that way, the punishment will be meted out based on the fact that he is responsible for controlling his stick at all times.

A cross-check to the shoulder wouldn't warrant any supplemental discipline at all, but when it rides to the head, intentional or not, it will be.



So, yes, this is precisely what is at stake.

 

[eojsmada]

This should be exactly in the Perron category....6 games minimum. Could be more, because at least Perron was "defending" (VERY loose quotes here) a teammate who was unconscious on the ice.

 

[Leaf Fans]

just head back to the locker room you lil ****, no need to throw a tantrum there. oh no it was a slap shot!!!

Why would they head to the locker room? There were 5 seconds left.

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

You're delusional if you don't think Giroux was criticizing his teammate in that interview.

There was nothing in his disposition during and after the question was phrased, twice for clarification, that showed he was in favour of the slap shot.

A veteran like Giroux would not be in favour of that kind of act, and he said just as much on live television to the country.

I dunno, I'm not the one inferring criticism here when none was spoken.

 

[Divine]

Who said he's talking about Senators fans? He said the fans were involved inferring it was emotional, you know with all the Leafs fans you guys like pointing out in the building. Crosschecking someone is a heat of the moment emotional play.

Can you post the interview you're referencing?

 

[WORLDSTARHIPHOP]

Can you post the interview you're referencing?

I mean he sounds just as much as referring to how Greig scores with "sometimes that just happens, fans involved heat of the game etc"

 

[T REX]

Are there any Leafs fans that don't think it warrants at least a 1 game suspension?

Would love to hear from you.

 

[Rare Jewel]

How can you possibly be offended by the way in which a breakaway skater puts the puck into an empty net??

I'm not personally. But it was enough to get the attention of a guy who had 4 pims prior to that incident, so there must be some conduct or sportsmanlike issue with it.

 

[HTFN]

That's what is at stake here, really.

The question should be whether Reilly is responsible for a lesser infraction being exacerbated into a more egregious one, or whether he intended to commit the more serious infraction.


From video evidence, it seems likely that the former is correct.

If deemed that way, the punishment will be meted out based on the fact that he is responsible for controlling his stick at all times.

A cross-check to the shoulder wouldn't warrant any supplemental discipline at all, but when it rides to the head, intentional or not, it will be.



So, yes, this is precisely what is at stake.

A strong enough crosscheck to ride into the face being delivered well after a goal was scored is not much of a "lesser infraction", it's pretty much exactly the same thing with one additional half-important label on it.

It's also not really very important if you still hit him in the face anyway, so this idea that Reilly only hit him so hard in the face because Greig responded physically to Reilly's very illegal and inappropriate cross-checking of him after a goal is kind of... not at all the point? It doesn't exactly make it worse, but it makes it no better either.

I'm not personally. But it was enough to get the attention of a guy who had 4 pims prior to that incident, so there must be some conduct or sportsmanlike issue with it.

That's not how that works at all. One would expect someone so sportsmanlike to not go immediately for retribution instead of chattering and making his opinion heard without using his stick to do it.