Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Hunter368]

there are a few things I want to see
1. length of suspension
2. Will Greig be targeted?
3. will the Sens or another team try it again
4. if 3 happens, whats going to be the reaction

1) Agreed
2) If he does it to another team I'm sure there would be a appropriate response (yes that was intentional), but a appropriate response would be small slash on the leg, face wash or at most drop the gloves........not a cross check to the head region which was not a appropriate response. If your suggesting other teams just at random target him for what he did vs the Leafs, zero chance of that happening IMO.
3) It would be funny, players like him who try to get under other teams skin will do whatever they can to draw pens, part of the game. Just ignore it, no different then players chirping each other or players taunting apposing fans with their celly after scoring a goal.
4) I think the Leafs will have learnt from this and not be so easily drawn into a suspension type of response. Give him a slash on the leg, take his number, face wash, and at most drop the glove at most when it makes sense based on the score. Not going to lie though it would be funny to watch as a hockey fan.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

or its dismissed because it was up to the Sens to send in the video footage and well the Sens Sens'd lol

We're not on welfare anymore

 

[Edgelord]

Imagine getting amped up and putting an exclamation point on an empty net to secure the win.

Like, if you want to get in his face or something, whatever. But throwing out a crosscheck at a guy's head just for that is insanity.

I don't think he was aiming head, if he just was better at crosschecking this would be a nothing story.
To me it looked like he was going about 3 or so inches below the shoulder but the shaft close to his right hand rode up Greig's arm.

 

[ACC1224]

I want all of the Rielly supporters (mostly Maple Leafs fans) to watch this video of Dale Hunter on Pierre Turgeon.

Watch it and tell me how Rielly on Greig was any different.

Dale Hunter got 21 games for this, in an era when doing this was more acceptable than it is now.

Now Rielly doesn't have the same reputation as Hunter, so 21 games may be too much.

But Rielly should be suspended double-digit amount of games.

So again watch this and tell me how what Rielly did differs from what Hunter did.

This is my challenge to Maple Leafs fans and Rielly supporters.

Turgeon did nothing wrong, Grieg is an idiot.

(I know you won't understand the difference.)

 

[Golden_Jet]

And this similar play got 1 playoff game


So I guess we're setting the range at somewhere between 1-21 games

Imagine comparing a play during the game, vs one, not during game play.

The only “we” in there is you.

 

[jcs0218]

And this similar play got 1 playoff game


So I guess we're setting the range at somewhere between 1-21 games

Playoff suspensions are always significantly less than regular season suspensions.

This may seem unfair, since the punishment should be the same.

But it has never worked that way.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

If Greig is in a position to do it again, would it be more disrespectful/funny to repeat the same play or fake a slapshot before sliding the puck in?

I'd go with the old NFL receiver wait for the guy to almost get there, then tap it in.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Turgeon did nothing wrong, Grieg is an idiot.

(I know you won't understand the difference.)

You must really hate Reilly then, since he took idiot to a new level.

 

[Il Stugotz]

Imagine comparing a play during the game, vs one, not during game play.

The only “we” in there is you.

It wasn’t during play

 

[Sensin5]

Playoff suspensions are always significantly less than regular season suspensions.

This may seem unfair, since the punishment should be the same.

But it has never worked that way.

Also the Makar play was not a blindside crosscheck to the head, so there is that.

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Imagine getting amped up and putting an exclamation point on an empty net to secure the win.

Like, if you want to get in his face or something, whatever. But throwing out a crosscheck at a guy's head just for that is insanity.

Greig sold it and you bought it.

BTW, who is Greig anyway?

 

[Cosmix]

That was a criminal attack and should be facing jail time. Possible felony charges.

Some day it may come to that.

If a player was severely injured or killed by such an attack, then I am pretty sure the police in the jurisdiction where it occurred would be pressing charges.

 

[jcs0218]

Turgeon did nothing wrong, Grieg is an idiot.

(I know you won't understand the difference.)

Don't try to label me as stupid by saying I won't understand the difference between Turgeon and Greig.

What Greig did was a bit of bad sportsmanship.

But in no way, shape, or form does it warrant a cross-check to the head long after the goal was scored.

Rielly was a total punk. He couldn't control his emotions. And he deserves a long suspension.

If you disagree with this, then perhaps you are the one with problems understanding things.

 

[Edgelord]

1) Agreed
2) If he does it to another team I'm sure there would be a appropriate response (yes that was intentional), but a appropriate response would be small slash on the leg, face wash or at most drop the gloves........not a cross check to the head region which was not a appropriate response. If your suggesting other teams just at random target him for what he did vs the Leafs, zero chance of that happening IMO.
3) It would be funny, players like him who try to get under other teams skin will do whatever they can to draw pens, part of the game. Just ignore it, no different then players chirping each other or players taunting apposing fans with their celly after scoring a goal.
4) I think the Leafs will have learnt from this and not be so easily drawn into a suspension type of response. Give him a slash on the leg, take his number, face wash, and at most drop the glove at most when it makes sense based on the score. Not going to lie though it would be funny to watch as a hockey fan.

true, I have noticed that teams that are not considered tough have to learn how to be tough. Usually, they cross lines or end up hitting a guy in the neck when they mean in the shoulder.
Teams that play a gritty tough style are just better at taking shots at players without taking big suspensions.

We're not on welfare anymore

Yup, but its still fun to make memo jokes. Still some meat on the bone

 

[NyQuil]

Greig sold it and you bought it.

BTW, who is Greig anyway?

He’s an NHL player who was drafted in the 1st round by the Ottawa Senators and won Gold with the 2022 iteration of Team Canada at the WJC.

 

[MCR74]

Turgeon did nothing wrong, Grieg is an idiot.

(I know you won't understand the difference.)

This x 100.

 

[Cosmix]

I would love to see him try and see how many beatdowns he receives before he gets the message that people won't stand for that kind of crap.

Then those hockey players who attack and cause serious injuries to others would need to be punished and restrained, and the league would have to act strongly to protect the players better.

 

[yort2010]

How about the OP does if that's his argument? Need me to go back and quote the original point, because you don't seem to want to reference it?

I think it's fair to say I've done enough actual research to invalidate their argument as complete and utter BS. I won't go out of my way to invalidate an argument they didn't even make in the first place.

I'm sensing a theme here in this fanbase of making an argument that is divorced from reality then putting the onus on someone else to prove it wrong.

lol go look at multiple videos posted in here, specifically Simmonds having a stick broken against his face and Knies being choked slammed to the ice and causing a concussion. and there are more. Why is other teams get away with this against the leafs but its never the leafs getting away with it?

 

[Il Stugotz]

Also the Makar play was not a blindside crosscheck to the head, so there is that.

They were both illegal hits that caused injury after the whistle blew to end play

 

[ToDavid]

1) Washington: 11 (or 12 depending on the exact date Parros took over. 12 if we go by Sept 1st)
2) Boston: 10 | Edmonton: 10
3) Montreal: 9 | San Jose: 9 | Vegas: 9
4) Nashville: 8 | Tampa: 8 | Toronto: 8

all-years NHL Fines & Suspenstions

was used as a collated data source, and I double checked numbers by manually going year by year directly from the NHL stat source.

So at BEST, you could say that, since Sept 2017-now, the leafs are the 7th most suspended team in the league. Quickly moving to 4-6 with an incoming suspension.... lol.

Not exactly the most suspended team in the league since Parros took over.

And so far, not a single person making the argument that they are the most suspended team in the league have acknowledged the actual facts of the matter. Because, well... it's a bad argument to try and make.

Also, feel free to go through my post history today. The 2009 stuff is pretty great too. Especially when you look at the teams around them in # of suspensions and the rate of suspension per year.

Because the data you're referencing need to be cleaned.

• Washington's 12 includes two suspensions for Ovechkin skipping the all-star game and one for Kuznetsov's off-ice behaviour. Not related to Parros.
• Boston includes one skipped all-star game.
• Edmonton includes an automatic that wouldn't be ruled on by Parros.

Those data are also just bad. It has Clifford's suspension in the 2022 playoffs attributed to Tampa...

WIth Rielly's suspension, the Leafs are the only team at 10 excluding off-ice suspensions and automatics.

 

[SensFactor]

Lets try and get this thread to 250 pages! Battle of Ontario is back baby!

 

[SpezDispenser]

BTW, who is Greig anyway?

Jfc, do your own research.

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

Beating the 2024 Leafs isn’t even fun, just expected at this point.

Chirping another fan base when your team has been one of the absolute biggest disappointments in the NHL this season is wild to me.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Turgeon did nothing wrong, Grieg is an idiot.

(I know you won't understand the difference.)

Lol, it's not like what Greig did should be considered in the context of the suspension. Complain about code until the cows come home, but no way should the enter the conversation when deciding how many games Rielly gets.

 

[Edgelord]

Chirping another fan base when your team has been one of the absolute biggest disappointments in the NHL this season is wild to me.

To be fair the Sens and Sabers actually look like an NHL team when they play us.
They duped me a cpl times this season. I would see them against the Leafs and think, well shit they look decent, I am going to check them out. Then I watch them against anyone other than the Leafs and they are unwatchable.