Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Didn't we see something similar with Cousins?
it happened against team x and next game a different team went after him?

Wasn't that because they were claiming he was intentionally trying to injure players? Iirc, that would be much more egregious, obviously, but not sure if I'm right on memory.

 

[Edgelord]

Cross-checked to boot.

that how we tell the Canadian homeless people from the american ones lol

 

[Relapsing]

What did you find for 2017 onwards?

1) Washington: 11 (or 12 depending on the exact date Parros took over. 12 if we go by Sept 1st)
2) Boston: 10 | Edmonton: 10
3) Montreal: 9 | San Jose: 9 | Vegas: 9
4) Nashville: 8 | Tampa: 8 | Toronto: 8

all-years NHL Fines & Suspenstions

was used as a collated data source, and I double checked numbers by manually going year by year directly from the NHL stat source.

So at BEST, you could say that, since Sept 2017-now, the leafs are the 7th most suspended team in the league. Quickly moving to 4-6 with an incoming suspension.... lol.

Not exactly the most suspended team in the league since Parros took over.

And so far, not a single person making the argument that they are the most suspended team in the league have acknowledged the actual facts of the matter. Because, well... it's a bad argument to try and make.

Also, feel free to go through my post history today. The 2009 stuff is pretty great too. Especially when you look at the teams around them in # of suspensions and the rate of suspension per year.

 

[BCNate]

I hope every team in the league fires clappers into the Leafs empty net every chance they get just to watch the fake tough Leafs get themselves worked up. Reilly is unbelievably stupid to put himself in a spot to get suspended for a handful of games, when the teams is barely hanging onto a wild card spot. If he gets 6 games like Perron, Leafs could be in trouble.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

actually its perfect!
he is turning it into a team bonding and motivational situation

Yeah I'm sure that's what he's doing and I'm sure it will work out well.

 

[Xirik]

Sent to New York?!

The guillotine has be set and made ready!

 

[Golden_Jet]

Are we supposed to get the verdict today or what?

Hearing is tomorrow

 

[Edgelord]

Yeah I'm sure that's what he's doing and I'm sure it will work out well.

hey, I'm brewing a massive fart, be a shame if it went off in your general direction lol

 

[Micklebot]

The Stars literally dropped a video four days ago hyping up their Toronto game, where their players talked about how important games in Toronto are.

It's simply reality.

I'm not seeing the connection here. They care about their own game in Toronto, sure. They don't give two shits about what the big bad meanie Greig did in Ottawa's game against Toronto.

This is getting comical, you guys can't help yourselves...

 

[Rude Dog]

1) Washington: 11 (or 12 depending on the exact date Parros took over. 12 if we go by Sept 1st)
2) Boston: 10 | Edmonton: 10
3) Montreal: 9 | San Jose: 9 | Vegas: 9
4) Nashville: 8 | Tampa: 8 | Toronto: 8

all-years NHL Fines & Suspenstions

was used as a collated data source, and I double checked numbers by manually going year by year directly from the NHL stat source.

So at BEST, you could say that, since Sept 2017-now, the leafs are the 7th most suspended team in the league. Quickly moving to 4-6 with an incoming suspension.... lol.

Not exactly the most suspended team in the league since Parros took over.

And so far, not a single person making the argument that they are the most suspended team in the league have acknowledged the actual facts of the matter. Because, well... it's a bad argument to try and make.

Also, feel free to go through my post history today. The 2009 stuff is pretty great too. Especially when you look at the teams around them in # of suspensions and the rate of suspension per year.

What I would really like to see is how many times the Leafs have had a guy up for a suspension that received less than what was expected or let off completely. Doesn't seem to matter when guys like Spezza, 34 and now Rielly have had zero history, but the league downplays other players when it's their first infraction. Does it not seem at all odd that the "softest team" in the last decade is even in conversation for being one of the most heavily suspended over that time period? That simply doesn't add up.

 

[MCR74]

The Stars literally dropped a video four days ago hyping up their Toronto game, where their players talked about how important games in Toronto are.

It's simply reality.

Didn't they lose that one?

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Video coming

https://x.com/tictactomar/status/1756508343051383252?s=46

https://x.com/tictactomar/status/1756508343051383252?s=46

I watched your videos. Give us a measured answer on why this is "six games or more" without it being an emotional response.

 

[Bradely]

Hearing in NYC tomorrow afternoon.. Would have loved to hear Rielly's defence

Had a Kelce brain fart with no coach around!!!

 

[Golden_Jet]

Im not talking about "that stuff". He will continue to be a rat. He is a rat.

I'm talking about blasting the puck 100MPH into an empty net with 4 seconds left likes he's in the hardest shot competition at the All Star Game. Specifically THAT. He wont do that again. I guarantee it.


If he wanted to play in the All Star game he should play better.

Clocked at 73 mph, a muffin, like a Reilly shot from the point.

 

[Edgelord]

I'm not seeing the connection here. They care about their own game in Toronto, sure. They don't give two shits about what the big bad meanie Greig did in Ottawa's game against Toronto.

This is getting comical, you guys can't help yourselves...

Are you suggesting that a young player showboating doesn't rub players the wrong way?
Just look at all the crap Zegras took.
Obviously if another team does target Greig its not about the Leafs, its about the showboating

 

[yort2010]

Pretty simple. Morgan's was 19 years after the play ended.. where he also targeted the head. Difference was Reilly had time to think about it.

If I was Parros, Edmundson would have got 10 games. Reilly would be getting 15.

Hits to the head should always be punished. But hits 19 hours after the play ends should be really made an example of.

what a stupid narrative, Simmonds didn't even have the puck so what the hell are you even talking about. Simmonds was just standing there. They are both egregious, but i find it amusing that i can find a number of instances where Leafs players were hit with dirty shit and no suspension or even a fine.

The reverse it seems the leafs never get away with those types of things.

 

[jcs0218]

I want all of the Rielly supporters (mostly Maple Leafs fans) to watch this video of Dale Hunter on Pierre Turgeon.

Watch it and tell me how Rielly on Greig was any different.

Dale Hunter got 21 games for this, in an era when doing this was more acceptable than it is now.

Now Rielly doesn't have the same reputation as Hunter, so 21 games may be too much.

But Rielly should be suspended double-digit amount of games.

So again watch this and tell me how what Rielly did differs from what Hunter did.

This is my challenge to Maple Leafs fans and Rielly supporters.

 

[cowboy82nd]

What I would really like to see is how many times the Leafs have had a guy up for a suspension that received less than what was expected or let off completely. Doesn't seem to matter when guys like Spezza, 34 and now Rielly have had zero history, but the league downplays other players when it's their first infraction. Does it not seem at all odd that the "softest team" in the last decade is even in conversation for being one of the most heavily suspended over that time period? That simply doesn't add up.

Soft and stupid are two totally different things.

 

[Il Stugotz]

I want all of the Rielly supporters (mostly Maple Leafs fans) to watch this video of Dale Hunter on Pierre Turgeon.

Watch it and tell me how Rielly on Greig was any different.

Dale Hunter got 21 games for this, in an era when doing this was more acceptable than it is now.

Now Rielly doesn't have the same reputation as Hunter, so 21 games may be too much.

But Rielly should be suspended double-digit amount of games.

So again watch this and tell me how what Rielly did differs from what Hunter did.

And this similar play got 1 playoff game


So I guess we're setting the range at somewhere between 1-21 games

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Imagine getting amped up and putting an exclamation point on an empty net to secure the win.

Like, if you want to get in his face or something, whatever. But throwing out a crosscheck at a guy's head just for that is insanity.

 

[Edgelord]

And this similar play got 1 playoff game


So I guess we're setting the range at somewhere between 1-21 games

when 1 to 21 is a plausible range it just screams functional DOPS lol

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

The conversation is getting to be something else.
The shot on the EN was a way to mock the Leafs. You get punched for that every time in this league. Same as shooting after a whistle, nothing against official rules, but something that it's not accepted within the hockey players culture. It's disrespectful and the code is to not do that. Every player knows it, every player knows the code. It was brought in by the players and they continue to preserve it. Not the fan's place to decide what players should accept.
If you disagree with the code, convince the players to end it. Good luck!!!
We, the fans don't get to decide what the players want to have in their unwritten rules.
We live by many unwritten rules in public lives too, you don't make fun of large people or disabled people, it's legal, but it's generally known to be a duchy thing to do. You let a pregnant woman take a seat. Not a law, just part of living in a society. Respect goes a long way and it's sad to see it being ignored by younger generations. Selfish behaviour.
Those that don't get that will live sad and isolated lives, no-one likes disrespectful d-bags.r

As for Reilly. He had the right idea, punish the disrespectful punk. He just went too far and deserves a suspension for that. Should have just punched him with his hand. But not with glove on as that's another no-no in the hockey community.

Players break the code all the time. Like, constantly. They're more like guidelines than rules. Especially in 2024 with all the showboating we see now. Bunch of Jerks down in Carolina wasn't too long ago pissing all the old school off. But this is not some egregious offence like some want to scream about. It's like celebrating too hard in a 6-0 game, or laughing in a guys face. Pretty minor. Obvious distinction that nobody got hurt. You deal with it like normal hockey players and it gets buried as a non story. At worst, this was a small code break that draws a scrum and end of the game hostilities. Reilly made this a story all by himself by losing his composure and thus cost himself and his team. If anything, it shows the advantage a team can get by walking the line on the code, like so many others do too.

 

[All Mod Cons]

1) Washington: 11 (or 12 depending on the exact date Parros took over. 12 if we go by Sept 1st)
2) Boston: 10 | Edmonton: 10
3) Montreal: 9 | San Jose: 9 | Vegas: 9
4) Nashville: 8 | Tampa: 8 | Toronto: 8

all-years NHL Fines & Suspenstions

was used as a collated data source, and I double checked numbers by manually going year by year directly from the NHL stat source.

So at BEST, you could say that, since Sept 2017-now, the leafs are the 7th most suspended team in the league. Quickly moving to 4-6 with an incoming suspension.... lol.

Not exactly the most suspended team in the league since Parros took over.

And so far, not a single person making the argument that they are the most suspended team in the league have acknowledged the actual facts of the matter. Because, well... it's a bad argument to try and make.

Also, feel free to go through my post history today. The 2009 stuff is pretty great too. Especially when you look at the teams around them in # of suspensions and the rate of suspension per year.

Some very interesting stuff there. Especially having Kyle Clifford on the Lightning for some bizarre reason? To my knowledge, Kyle has never played for the Lightning.

 

[Korpse]

And this similar play got 1 playoff game

Did you intentionally pick a play that wasn't similar?

 

[MCR74]

what a stupid narrative, Simmonds didn't even have the puck so what the hell are you even talking about. Simmonds was just standing there. They are both egregious, but i find it amusing that i can find a number of instances where Leafs players were hit with dirty shit and no suspension or even a fine.

The reverse it seems the leafs never get away with those types of things.

Neither did Turgeon, and Hunter got 21 games.