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Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

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HabzSauce said:
We're arguing semantics at this point.

Again there's a distinct difference between acting out of emotion and wanting to make it hurt vs deliberately trying to end someone's career. That's how I see it. Rielly was pissed and wanted to give it back to Grieg. Wether or not he crossed the line is up for debate but that doesn't mean he wanted to break his jaw or give him a concussion. It's heat of the moment - rage and emotion. Make it hurt yes but nobody wants to cross that pain threshold and purposely injure other players.

Only guy I can think of in recent history that could maybe fit that bill is matt Cooke. Rielly ain't that dude
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Sure but in that sense, nobody has ever attempted to injure.

You could argue Bertuzzi just wanted to hurt his face but not hurt his career. He didn't want to break his neck..

Therefore $5,000 fine?

What exactly is your point?

Almost every guy who ever did something extremely dangerous would probably say it was stupid looking back but they were in the moment and upset and the game is fast and blah blah blah.

Doesn't mean there shouldn't be massive suspensions handed down.

Pretend the definition says "attempt an illegal action that has a high chance of creating injury" and it will give you some peace of mind, if that makes any sense.
 
HTFN said:
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god this better be sarcasm

lol so the angle you're taking here is that Rielly is so soft he just didn't know how to hit right and whiffed it so bad he hit Greig in the head? I like how you say "caught" like it was incidental and not the entire intent of the action from start to finish.

You guys need to stop trying to frame any of this as accidental or not what Rielly intended.
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Jesus, man, this is painful. I hate the leafs. My "angle" is a *criticism* of Rielly (that he's soft and has no idea how to be physical, so he couldn't actually hit the guy in the ribs if he tried), not an excuse (that he's soft and doesn't know how to be physical, so please excuse him for it getting a little overzealous). It's not to excuse him, it's to criticize him. My head.
 
jbeck5 said:
They were high fiving him. Alfie was grinning from ear to ear. The players gave Ridley the player of the game helmet.

I think it's safe to say your comment is way wrong.
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Giroux’s post game comments say other wise. Hes a vet and leader so he didn’t bury the kid but it was very obvious
 
The90 said:
Lol, suspensions and penaltys go hand in hand young man. Don’t high brow me and pretend like I didn’t make a good point.

Since Parros has been the head of DOPS the leafs have the most suspensions and among the least powerplay opportunities. It’s unfortunate for you, that those literal facts don’t match up with whatever it is that you’re trying to put out as a ‘cogent’, argument.
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Never knew Parros called infractions on the ice as well
 
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MCR74 said:
Shouldn't it Part 1? Steve hasn't had a summer yet.
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Sure, I was just referring to all the past off-seasons where the Sens were allegedly going to come out and be competitive in the Atlantic and make the playoffs. Summer of Steve sounds good.
 
VainGretzky said:
Never knew Parros called infractions on the ice as well
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Who said he did?

Are suspendible plays not usually also penalties? Let me know.

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I bet the Sens locker room will double down on the EN slapshots and ballerina performances. Absolutely bopping, cised to be rizzin' frfr
 
The90 said:
Lol, suspensions and penaltys go hand in hand young man. Don’t high brow me and pretend like I didn’t make a good point.

Since Parros has been the head of DOPS the leafs have the most suspensions and among the least powerplay opportunities. It’s unfortunate for you, that those literal facts don’t match up with whatever it is that you’re trying to put out as a ‘cogent’, argument.
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I'm sorry, maybe I missed the part where DOPS has a direct hand in levying in-game penalties? I am not making any arguments at this time regarding the penalization of leafs players in-game. We can talk about that if you want, but it is irrelevant, beyond making a point that players have been penalized on a play that warrants a possible suspension, to the actual argument, which you seem to obtusely refuse to acknowledge.

Look, I know I sound like a broken record here, but, let me just reiterate again, in bold, that the leafs are not, in any fathomable way, the most suspended team since Parros has been head of DOPS as of September of 2017.

It is absolutely false to insist otherwise. And it's asinine to "and then" the argument on top of it.

I have the receipts. You can just look it up yourself though since you don't seem to trust me.

Don't young man me. I'm not being high-brow. I'm using actual, legitimate, factual statistics to prove my point. If that's being high-brow, what exactly are you doing?
 
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BTO said:
Jesus, man, this is painful. I hate the leafs. My "angle" is a *criticism* of Rielly (that he's soft and has no idea how to be physical, so he couldn't actually hit the guy in the ribs if he tried), not an excuse (that he's soft and doesn't know how to be physical, so please excuse him for it getting a little overzealous). It's not to excuse him, it's to criticize him. My head.
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so all this was just trying to walk up to a "soft" joke in a thread where he's already doing something worth ripping on? I guess I don't get the timing but I'll take it over having to add to my own headache talking to the "stick rode up" crowd, sarcasm emoji might save you from some crossfire next time
 
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I bet the Sens locker room will double down on the EN slapshots and ballerina performances. Absolutely bopping, cised to be rizzin' frfr
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Lets be reality for a min, to have a shot at an empty net, the sens have to be winning
So I see a situation where every team is going to do it to them TBH
 
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Lol it’s always so funny to me how some fanbases - devoid of actual toughness for so long - claim an unsuspecting cheap shot to the head is “ tough” . Shit anyone could do it it doesn’t involve balls just requires you to be ratty. Remind me when some sens fans ( no offense sens fans ) celebrated as “ tough “when Brady pummeled Tuch defenslessly as he’s tied down by the refs. That’s not tough. It’s what a p*ssy does
 
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MuckOG said:
Even if you don't like what Greig did, it doesn't call for getting cross checked in the head. Better response would be to simply beat them the next time they faced each other....or even, take down his number and get a little physical with him in the next game.

I'm getting really tired of these so-called "unwritten" rules. Baseball and hockey seems to have more of them than any other sport. If you don't like it, outscore your opponent so it doesn't happen.
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Or if these rules are so important, go to the NHLPA and ask that they get officially written in as real rules.
 
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Deadly Dogma said:
I would soo watch the Sens just to see what would happen. The only bummer is they have to be winning to have a chance at an empty net and they don't play the Leafs again this yr
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Yer trying your best out there to come up with something even remotely insulting! You deserve a cookie :)

Funny how everyone else is laughing at what actually happened, while Leafs fans have to manufacture something to point at.
 
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NyQuil said:


Literally happens all the time in basketball.

It’s when a lot of the more spectacular dunks happen.

I guess the video cuts off before the other team beats the crap out of him.

Tangentially, some HFers are constantly wringing their hands about why NHL isn’t cool like the NBA and those same folks would probably want the guy to do a simple layup if they applied the NHL code.
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Different sports have different unwritten rules. There are gatherings and pushing and shoving all the time in basketball if a player gets in an opponent’s face and taunts him

I’m more curious to see where people think a pound of flesh should be taken at all costs. In my hypotheticals I would rank the unnecessary showboating<over the top disrespectful taunting<personal life low blow. I would expect a player to get a stick to the face if he made fun of a player’s dead wife or child, for example. I don’t think what Greig did was egregious but I see how the leafs took offense. Did Reilly overreact? Maybe. I’m more interested in seeing where majority of people would say Reilly’s crosscheck was warranted
 
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