Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[Nineteen67]

I have no dog in the fight but this is the gospel right here.

You’re not a hockey fan?

I don’t care if either of those teams wins anything, but as a fan wanting to be entertained I have dog in the fight.

 

[saintunspecified]

one

There were no suspensions over the bat flip. It was a playoff game.

Pitchers throw at people for looking at them wrong after hits, slow trotting home runs, and - of course - as a tactic. I grew up playing baseball, not hockey. But both have these stupid unwritten codes. One thing I can say is, generally speaking, that these codes typically reveal a lack of proper rules and enforcement than anything else. Baseball is starting to address these things, and I think it's going to have to go further. (The endless stepping out/waiving off pitches, etc. caused a ton of simmering frustration, which was addressed. But the penalty for hitting batters is too low, and shouldn't be as dependent at each moment of an umpire's view about intent.)

 

[Puck Tiss]

Umm yes? Thats literally how they determine suspension lengths - based on precedence. Are you new to hockey?

Ok, so there has been no evolution in the game or the rules is what you are saying?

 

[Relapsing]

Think twice, a 6 gamer in person, reduced to 4 games.

If you're referring to Spezza's reduced suspension for his knee-on-head to Pionk, that was reduced on appeal, not during the in-person virtual call.

Players appeal directly to the Commish, so that was Bettman reducing the suspension by 2 games. Spezza had already served 4 games out of 6 once the appeal was heard, so he went on to play the next game.

 

[MCR74]

So first off, I am a Jets fan. Get that out of tue way right now.
All I can say is that if Dillion got 3 games for basically letting a guy skate head first into his shoulder, then Reilly should get 6.
Now do I believe that 6 games is correct??
Hell NO!!
He barely even touches him if we are being honest about it, and it was the dummy who thought it would be a good idea to slap it into the empty net.
I said it before , this league is soft as butter. It hardly resembles NHL hockey now.
We pay big big dollars to go watch these games and I don’t think it’s too much to ask for these guys to go play hard and throw some hits.
Head shots out of tue game? Fine, I’m down with that. But make a hard and fast rule on it.
Hit in tue head? Automatic 1 game. But DOPS can’t even do that right.

So..6 games for Reilly and 3 for Dillion is fair….. I guess.

People take note - this is what a clear, well thought post looks like.

 

[Karma Police]

Once again you’re adding something that didn’t happen. There was no clubbing on the head. Rielly was engaging him, as he should, and his stick caugh him in the neck and jaw.

I have no problem with either player’s actions.

Yes, emotion adds to competition.

No he actually should not once a goal is scored. No matter how it was scored. The sole purpose of this game is to put the puck in the net, no matter what.

Guess the little baby leafs players can't handle it.

There's no reason to act like a child after a goal is scored. Take a number, bodycheck the guy during the play. Act like a child? Get suspended.

 

[koyvoo]

If Rielly does nothing everyone would be preaching about how soft the Leafs are. Every single team buries Grieg in that situation. I’ve never been more certain about something in my life

If anyone has watched closely the part two playoffs, Rielly has proven himself one of the only one on the team, and definitely the only marquee player on the team with any sort of courage at all.

The play on Grieg is neither here nor there in that regard.

 

[NyQuil]

Once again you’re adding something that didn’t happen. There was no clubbing on the head. Rielly was engaging him, as he should, and his stick caugh him in the neck and jaw.

I have no problem with either player’s actions.

Yes, emotion adds to competition.

“Engaging him”…ok.

 

[Natey]

He literally targeted the head of Simmonds, how the in the god damn f*** can you say Morgan's was worse....

Pretty simple. Morgan's was 19 years after the play ended.. where he also targeted the head. Difference was Reilly had time to think about it.

If I was Parros, Edmundson would have got 10 games. Reilly would be getting 15.

Hits to the head should always be punished. But hits 19 hours after the play ends should be really made an example of.

 

[SomeDude]

If Rielly does nothing everyone would be preaching about how soft the Leafs are. Every single team buries Grieg in that situation. I’ve never been more certain about something in my life

You realize there are ways to respond that aren’t cross checks to the face, right?

 

[saintunspecified]

Once again you’re adding something that didn’t happen. There was no clubbing on the head. Rielly was engaging him, as he should, and his stick caugh him in the neck and jaw.

I have no problem with either player’s actions.

Yes, emotion adds to competition.

I'm no longer uncertain whether what you originally said was stupid or condescending. Thanks.

 

[dirtydanglez]

Elliotte Friedman knows who pays the bills.

flat earth, moon is made of cheese, leafs deep state. got it.

 

[SmoggyTwinkles]

He's so bad he needs to use his stick instead of his hands.

He's one of the classiest players in the league about to get a Kadri like suspension. I find it hilarious. They should make it 20 games.

 

[PatrickEaves]

Longest suspension served this season!

He almost served the same total number of suspended games served last season - 41 to 47. If you remove Pre and Post Season suspensions, he wins 41 - 35

#NHLsuspensionfacts

Turns out Parros actually hates the sens. Which means he is biased against them, thus Rielly's suspension amount is going to be too low.

 

[hamzarocks]

Pretty simple. Morgan's was 19 years after the play ended.. where he also targeted the head. Difference was Reilly had time to think about it.

If I was Parros, Edmundson would have got 10 games. Reilly would be getting 15.

Hits to the head should always be punished. But hits 19 hours after the play ends should be really made an example of.

Crazy take so far from reality that i dont know if your serious or joking

a full charging head shot hit might get 10 games if the players injured hard

A cross check shouldnt get more than 3 or 4 games

 

[TheDoldrums]

Reilly had time to walk his dog, make a coffee, and take a pee in the time between the goal and him deciding to hit someone unsuspecting in the head with his stick.

Oh that's the standard now? How much time did Chiasson have here before he decided to cross check a guy in the head after the game was over?

1 game

 

[Peasy]

Pretty simple. Morgan's was 19 years after the play ended.. where he also targeted the head. Difference was Reilly had time to think about it.

If I was Parros, Edmundson would have got 10 games. Reilly would be getting 15.

Hits to the head should always be punished. But hits 19 hours after the play ends should be really made an example of.

What about this one? Was after the game as well!

 

[hamzarocks]

Oh that's the standard now? How much time did Chiasson have here before he decided to cross check a guy in the head after the game was over?

1 game

Like.

The fact that the media+fans on here have made it seem like 6-10 games is a justified and good call is insane.

Its a 1-3 game suspension tops.

 

[Natey]

I find it more likely Reilly did it because he was expected to rather than he couldn't control his emotions.

I personally like Reilly as a player. Don't think he's a dirty player at all. But this play was out of character and he made a mistake. The problem for me is that it's a terrible mistake because of it being long after a goal, with no time left in the game, and to the head.

It should be a lengthy suspension, but I don't think Reilly is a dirty player. We all make mistakes every single day.

These types of plays need to go away. Or it would be no different if you "broke the code", but I wasn't on the ice at the time and 5 minutes later when we're both on the ice, I come and crosscheck you in the head before a face-off.

 

[nturn06]

The problem is there's zero consistency so you can pick and choose whatever play you want to serve as a benchmark.

Gallagher's five games make six for Rielly absurd. He didn't even get an in-person hearing for the most blatant elbow I've seen in years. Then you've got shit like Trouba taking a fine for baseball swinging his stick into a guy's head. Or other crosschecks to the neck (and many other dangerous plays) that they simply ignore all-together. Hell there was that weekend earlier this year where I think three guys were injured being boarded from behind, and not all of them were even penalties.

There's no point in even bringing up previous suspensions because the league will always find a way to surprise you.

Really????

One player had a vicious elbow during a play. Another one atatcked with the stick a player long after the play was over. And you think that the first one is worse?

 

[Snubbed4Vezina]

You’re not a hockey fan?

I don’t care if either of those teams wins anything, but as a fan wanting to be entertained I have dog in the fight.

What's hockey? I'm just here for the free swag.

 

[Rob Brown]

But they said in their piece it's hard to be neutral.. so isn't that a contradiction?

It's hard for fans to be neutral.

 

[Tom Polakis]

Has a thread ever gotten this large?

I know how I could make the thread longer still. I call you a child for asking such a stupid question, and then we trade insults back and forth.

 

[PatrickEaves]

Like.

The fact that the media+fans on here have made it seem like 6-10 games is a justified and good call is insane.

Its a 1-3 game suspension tops.

David Perron cross checked a guy in the head after the play was over. He had no suspension history. He got 6 games.

Morgan Rielly cross checked a guy in the head after the play was over. He has no suspension history. He gets __ games?

 

[Natey]

Oh that's the standard now? How much time did Chiasson have here before he decided to cross check a guy in the head after the game was over?

1 game

It's also 4 years ago. Can you find one more recent? They've been cracking down more lately. And I think they should start cracking down even more.