Morgan Rielly cross check to the head of Ridley Greig (DOPS UPDATE: In Person Hearing - 6 games or more possible)

[BTO]

Lol what sport do someone of you guys watch? Of course Greig deserved to get hit. He didn't deserve a cross check in the head, but he got one because Lady-Byng candidate Morgan Rielly doesn't actually know how to hit so that's what he did instead. Figure-skating Futures is thataway people -------->

 

[Gregor Samsa]

Tangentially related but what should be the response for these incidents if the offending player refuses to drop the gloves, or should teams look the other way?

-player scores a goal and goes to fist bump the opposing goalie or opposing bench
-player does a spinorama/between the legs shot on an empty net break away
-player taunts opposing player who just had a tragedy with his wife or child about said tragedy
-away player scores a goal and pulls a Terrell Owens on home teams logo at center ice and mimics urinating/defecating/masturbating on the logo

 

[umma gumma]

There was no injury to the player, Rielly/perron too had no history of such play.

If Rielly had shown he targets other pkayers heads before and/or Greig was out for a while then a longer suspension makes sense

Here nothing happend to Greig besides falling down after a cross check. This happens 20 times a game in front of the net.

Of course, Rielly doing this after the play deserves a suspension. But 6-10 or 10+ games is beyond insane.

3 games is probably right amount for first time offender on a play that had no lasting impact to the opponent

Players get cross-checked in the head 20 times during the course of a game? What?

 

[hamzarocks]

I’m obviously in a biased position because both incidents involved Sens players, but my primary problem is that they took place after play was called.

Cross checks are going to happen around the net, shoving etc.

But stick work after the whistle blows is dangerous. In Zub’s case, he was completely unsuspecting because he was not even the player involved and was in the act of actually trying to protect Larkin on the ice and had waved the trainer over.

If you’re teaching players that the whistle ends play, you have to reinforce that by penalizing infractions when play is stopped more severely.

I think there’s a certain acceptance that hockey is a physical game but hitting guys with sticks when guys are presumably more vulnerable after the referee has halted play should also very much be against the “code”.

Rielly losing his cool, and cross checking Greig deserves the suspension

I dont see how its 6, 10, 15, 20 games ling

3 or 4 games is what I think is fair for a 1st time offender like Rielly. In the future if he wants to defend the code, he will drop his gloves and/or wrestle a guy down.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Elliotte Friedman knows who pays the bills.

It was disgusting listening to that, they claim that Sens fans are arguing for a suspension because of biases and people are incapable of seeing it through a different lens. I am not a sens fan ( I live in Ottawa) I m an Oilers fan but I watched Leon Draisaitl drive a kings head into the boards and called him out for it here on Saturday. ITS NOT TRIBALISM.

Dreadful argument from Jeff and Elliotte

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

If he does something stupid, fill your boots.

I like MR - but he was angry that a player "disrespected" his team. OK - if Marner "overcelebrates" a goal, by your standards it's OK for someone to come over and cross-check him in the head?

 

[guyzeur]

6 games
TorontoSN is making a big thing out of this

 

[ToDavid]

Basing suspensions off getting hurt is absurd.

Such a stupid take that I'm not sure if you're serious or not

Dumb or not, it's not a "take". The NHL explicitly considers injuries in their suspensions. It's a part of the CBA.

Department of Player Safety FAQs | NHL.com

 

[hamzarocks]

Players get cross-checked in the head 20 times during the course of a game? What?

Players get cross checked in a game a bunch of times in front of the net

The cross check being to the head + occurring after the play gets 3-4 games.

Greig not getting injured + rielly being first time offender stops it from being 6/7 games

 

[Rob Brown]

It was disgusting listening to that, they claim that Sens fans are arguing for a suspension because of biases and people are incapable of seeing it through a different lens. I am not a sens fan ( I live in Ottawa) I m an Oilers fan but I watched Leon Draisaitl drive a kings head into the boards and called him out for it here on Saturday. ITS NOT TRIBALISM.

Dreadful argument from Jeff and Elliotte

Dude he literally said he thinks Rielly should be suspended. What are you talking about? The whole tribalism thing is that both sides of the argument (in this case Leafs and Sens fans) are being ridiculous because if it was reversed both sides would hold the opposite opinion than the one they are currently holding.

 

[red devil]

 

[Natey]

His point was that fans of any team will have different opinions on the same situation depending on which side of it they are on, and if it was reversed they would probably also flip their opinions. It's really not that complicated.

Of course people would have different opinions. But not everyone will fall in line one way or the other.

I hate both teams involved in this.

It's a slap shot into an empty net. Who cares? Not worth risking a suspension.

Should Zegras have been cross checked in the face after the Michigan? That's far more showboaty than a half assed slapper into an empty net. The same kind of slapper we all take at home on empty nets lol

 

[umma gumma]

Players get cross checked in a game a bunch of times in front of the net

The cross check being to the head + occurring after the play gets 3-4 games.

Greig not getting injured + rielly being first time offender stops it from being 6/7 games

In the head??

 

[thefutures]

Should be 2 games max

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Lol what sport do someone of you guys watch? Of course Greig deserved to get hit. He didn't deserve a cross check in the head, but he got one because Lady-Byng candidate Morgan Rielly doesn't actually know how to hit so that's what he did instead. Figure-skating Futures is thataway people -------->

Just IMO (and I love old school hockey) - there is a HUGE difference between a hit during the course of a play - and going after someone's head when the play is dead. YMMV.

 

[Frosty415]

That makes him look worse and like a straight moron

 

[hamzarocks]

In the head??

The head doesnt matter here b/c it didnt have the lasting/severe damages your pretending it did

Injuries on a suspendable play matter and increase suspension time.

If Greig is out a month, a 10 game suspension would be on the cards

 

[NyQuil]

David Perron went out of his way to lift his stick over Zub's outstretched hand to cross check him clean in the side of the temple. Rielly's stick rode up Greig's shoulder into his neck.

We've seen the latter a million times and the punishment ranges from nothing, fines, to 1-2 games. Rielly probably fits at the high end of that because he went after him after the whistle.

But DoPS is ultimately a PR department, so we all know they're going to throw the book at him because they don't like the amount of media attention this sort of thing gets when it involves the Leafs.

It doesn’t hit him in the neck, it hits him in the face.

 

[Natey]

Dumb or not, it's not a "take". The NHL explicitly considers injuries in their suspensions. It's a part of the CBA.

Department of Player Safety FAQs | NHL.com

I know they've used it plenty of times. I was just firing back to a stupid comment with an equally stupid comment.

But it is stupid that is taken into consideration. Someone can fall down 70 steps and get up and walk away. Someone else could fall down 10 and die.

 

[inthewings]

Imagine trying to explain hockey 'code' to a person who doesn't watch hockey.

See this guy shot a slapshot into an empty net instead of a normal shot. That is highly disrespectful! Therefore he deserves to get assaulted.

Hockey is absurd. Trying to imagine a 3B baseball get upset that a homerun trot is taking too long and clocking the guy in the mouth as he's rounding third, which is about equivalent to this situation.

Maybe 40 years ago.

 

[umma gumma]

The head doesnt matter here b/c it didnt have the lasting/severe damages your pretending it did

Injuries on a suspendable play matter and increase suspension time

I'm not disputing the suspension lengths, I'm taking issue with 20 cross-checks to the head we see in every game comment.

 

[MCR74]

Dumb or not, it's not a "take". The NHL explicitly considers injuries in their suspensions. It's a part of the CBA.

Department of Player Safety FAQs | NHL.com

Mind you, this is Parros we're talking about, so who knows?

 

[Puck Tiss]

David Perron cross checked a guy in the head after the play was over. He had no suspension history. He got 6 games.

Morgan Rielly cross checked a guy in the head after the play was over. He has no suspension history. He gets __ games?

In reality, what Perron did was very reactionary. He say his teammate unconscious on the ice, attacks the closed opponent. Rielly was predatory in the fact that he had to skate towards Greig.

 

[Rob Brown]

Hockey is absurd. Trying to imagine a 3B baseball get upset that a homerun trot is taking too long and clocking the guy in the mouth as he's rounding third, which is about equivalent to this situation.

Maybe 40 years ago.

Baseball might be the one sport with more of a 'code', to be fair.

 

[Danarqhy]

Ryan Reaves earning that $1.125 million salary in the PR department for the Leafs, since he's barely playing on the ice.