Montreal embarrassed by Tampa and themselves (Lose 6-2)

[Rosso Scuderia]

Be glad when Prust is gone.

Habs missed their opportunities and Tampa Bay took them to town. Look in the mirror you clowns. Nobody to blame 'cept yourselves. Well, not Price. One guy can only do so much.

Prust didn't cost us ****. We won't be better if Prust is off our 4th line and team.

He was a warrior last game but now because he took some penalties that did not have a real impact in the outcome of the game, he's better off the team?

 

[HabsDieHard*]

Well, when someone says the players should have some of the blame...there's excuses so you tell me.

Once again, the whole team including MT weren't good enough.

I honestly have no idea what kind of point you're attempting to make here.

 

[Habsawce]

Well, we do have a 2-0 win, so I'm gonna guess we scored first that game

Whoops, forgot about that one. Did they score first in the 5-1 loss? I thnk they did.

 

[OneSharpMarble]

Where will he sign? Regardless of how you compare the oilers and the habs, we are still top 8 in the league at this point.

The exaggeration is strong that we're some terrible team.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm on board with you that MB needs a splash to really cement his legacy as our GM. There's no debate there.

He will probably sign with Detroit, I have heard it is his hometown. There is no way he is enjoying his stay on this "top 8" team. We havn't been dominant once in the playoffs, calling the habs "top 8" is hilarious seeing as how we probably lose to almost any of the 15 other teams that made the playoffs.

To cement his legacy? What legacy? His legacy of signing Desharnais and giving Subban the runaround? He needs to DO SOMETHING to even be a footnote in the history books. Oh wow amazing acquisition of Gonchar! That is one for the HHOF for sure!

The team was fine 3 years ago when Gauthier left, it's a shame it's the exact same team with a bunch of "hanger ons" pretending to be coaching staff.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

He actually has the most points of his draft year. But he's also the guy who played the most. Let's be honest though....2012 will soon be known as one of the worst year for forwards. So that he is amongst the best....well I guess that won't be hard. Yet, again, as I said before, that's 12 points in his last 31 games including the playoffs. That's not good. That's not what I call a progression.

Some suggest he deserves a promotion based on his play though.

Reality is, I'm confident he'll be a legit top 6 forward. I'm not 100% certain he'll be the center we've been wanting for a long time.

That's why I've posted time and time again I would seek out Joe Thornton and squeeze out the final good years from him as a stop gap.

 

[Aspirine]

Damn. I thought Habs were better than this. Disappointed.

 

[Habaneros]

0 -7 in our last 7 vs Tampa...the coaches got no answer..Trying to win 1-0 and 2-1 don't work vs Tampa....

In five of the 7 games Tampa has scored 4 or more goals.......no fluke

Blame the ref all you like......the Montreal coaches can't adjust

 

[OldCraig71]

As I said earlier in this thread..

"The superior man blames himself. The inferior man blames others." -Don Shula

Why wouldn't he take the chance to build them up in front of the camera instead of shifting the blame from himself right on the players. He is not the type of coach that we need but it seems as though we are stuck with him. If some posters think he will be fired if we get swept then sadly you will be wrong. Next season he will lose the bench and that will be his only undoing.

 

[LyricalLyricist]

I honestly have no idea what kind of point you're attempting to make here.

That's what I originally said and you called it an apologist post...

You can't solely blame the coach or solely blame the players. The reality is our PP structure is comical and predictable and that's on the coach but breakdowns, discipline and other areas which cost us the game tonight are not facets the coach promotes either. There's plenty of blame to pass around in a 6-2 loss.

 

[Kriss E]

Classic Therrien bashing...so easy to critique a coach after a lopsided loss.

Well someone has to do it, Therrien is too busy constantly blaming the guys for not sticking to the gameplan or executing after every loss.
Heck, even for the PP, when Marinaro asked him about it tonight he said ''you can't always score on the PP, I thought we had some good chances last game, but tonight we didn't execute''. As if tonight was the only night they didn't score. It's been a problem for 2 years, and he's blaming execution???
It's pretty freaking clear at this point that he just regurgitates the same crap because he has no better answer.

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

Here's the article again from 2009 when they were calling for MT to be fired as the Pens coach. Sounds pretty familiar.

Penguins Fans: Time to Push the Panic Button and Fire Michel Therrien

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...ush-the-panic-button-and-fire-michel-therrien

And MB decided to hire him and the problems look familiar, don't they?

 

[Andy]

He will probably sign with Detroit, I have heard it is his hometown. There is no way he is enjoying his stay on this "top 8" team. We havn't been dominant once in the playoffs, calling the habs "top 8" is hilarious seeing as how we probably lose to almost any of the 15 other teams that made the playoffs.

To cement his legacy? What legacy? His legacy of signing Desharnais and giving Subban the runaround? He needs to DO SOMETHING to even be a footnote in the history books. Oh wow amazing acquisition of Gonchar! That is one for the HHOF for sure!

The team was fine 3 years ago when Gauthier left, it's a shame it's the exact same team with a bunch of "hanger ons" pretending to be coaching staff.

MB has done a pretty good job I think. His replacements for offensive guys have gotten progressively worse though. Cole->Ryder->Briere->PAP. Then the team let go Gionta, replaced him with Sekac, and then traded him for DSP. They never replaced Vanek's offense.

Add in the fact that Gallagher, Eller, Galchenyuk haven't really progressed in their development and it hurts.

 

[punk255]

What the hell has happened to Galchenyuk guys? I'm getting concerned about his development under this coaching staff that will likely all be back again next year.

MT brainwashing system
Da system kill offensive player potential and confidence

MT want to make Galchenyuk a dump and chase player
Shot from any impossible angles and forget creativity

 

[AnotherHabsFan]

Can't bash him when we win coz we won/da record

Can't bash him when we lose a close game because a few bounces our way would have given us the W.

Can't bash him we get thrashed because it's was too lopsided to be the coach's fault.

Do you notice a trend here? When can we bash him?

His system is designed to prevent too much criticism on himself. He is actually super smart and found a way to get himself a well paying job the requires little work and contains job security with the only downside being us fans hating him.

 

[NobleSix]

 

[Andy]

I still think Nilan said it best when he said MT coaches like someone who doesn't want to lose his job.

 

[swimmer77]

Prust didn't cost us ****. We won't be better if Prust is off our 4th line and team.

He was a warrior last game but now because he took some penalties that did not have a real impact in the outcome of the game, he's better off the team?

His penalties shifted momentum.

 

[hockeyfan2k11]

Add in the fact that Gallagher, Eller, Galchenyuk haven't really progressed in their development and it hurts.

I blame him mostly for that.

 

[HabsDieHard*]

That's what I originally said and you called it an apologist post...

You can't solely blame the coach or solely blame the players. The reality is our PP structure is comical and predictable and that's on the coach but breakdowns, discipline and other areas which cost us the game tonight are not facets the coach promotes either. There's plenty of blame to pass around in a 6-2 loss.

So all a coach is responsible for is the power play.

The power play is awful.

But of course the players desreve blame as well.

Once again, I have no idea what kind of point you're trying to make here.

Everyone has to be better?

Yeah, that's pretty obvious.

The coaches' strategy is not suited for the players he has, and they are not producing nearly enough offence or creating any real sustained pressure either.

Blame the players if you'd like.

I see a team that doesn't look like it knows how to match up against Tampa Bay. At all.

Should the players make the in game adjustments they need to?

Or...is that...what the coach is there for?

 

[LyricalLyricist]

He will probably sign with Detroit, I have heard it is his hometown. There is no way he is enjoying his stay on this "top 8" team. We havn't been dominant once in the playoffs, calling the habs "top 8" is hilarious seeing as how we probably lose to almost any of the 15 other teams that made the playoffs.

To cement his legacy? What legacy? His legacy of signing Desharnais and giving Subban the runaround? He needs to DO SOMETHING to even be a footnote in the history books. Oh wow amazing acquisition of Gonchar! That is one for the HHOF for sure!

The team was fine 3 years ago when Gauthier left, it's a shame it's the exact same team with a bunch of "hanger ons" pretending to be coaching staff.

How could he not be enjoying it? He's 27 years old and this is the first playoff action he ever got in the NHL. Do you really think beggars can be choosers?

Legacy doesn't necessarily mean greatness. The reality is MB has been patient, calculated but lacking the splash we need to push the team over the top. I never said HHOF or anything like that, you misunderstood.

As for Gauthier, so fine we finished 3rd last. Listen, I know you still love Gauthier and if you think he's awesome, I sincerely wish the oilers got him over Chiarelli just so they can be a laughing stock of the league for another 3-5 years.

 

[Habsawce]

It's amazing how one person can make something you love so much, so painful.

 

[Richiebottles]

0:32

 

[Habsawce]

Probably just asking for a good guac recipe.

 

[Habaneros]

We've been out scored 28-10 by Tampa in last 7 games(0 wins -7 loss)....the SYSTEM is broke...

 

[HabsDieHard*]

MB has done a pretty good job I think. His replacements for offensive guys have gotten progressively worse though. Cole->Ryder->Briere->PAP. Then the team let go Gionta, replaced him with Sekac, and then traded him for DSP. They never replaced Vanek's offense.

Add in the fact that Gallagher, Eller, Galchenyuk haven't really progressed in their development and it hurts.

How has Bergevin done a good job?

What positive moves has he made?

the nonsense about him clearing cap space for next year by wasting 6.5 million in cap space this season?

He's had one good UFA signing.

He's had a couple of decent trades, but none of them have done anything to address the glaring weaknesses this team has.

Bergevin inherited a great core and hasn't improved upon it at all.

Somehow this teams' forward depth is worse than it was when he was hired.

Prime years of their core ar ebeing pissed away.

And he sits there and trades for 4th liners?

Its' a joke.