Allen has an additional year of term. Pretty cheap too considering how he has been playing this year.
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Allen has an additional year of term. Pretty cheap too considering how he has been playing this year.
TheImpatientPanther
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So if traded now, he'd have 1.66 years to go VS one year of term when traded from STL?
Has he played well enough to bump his value from a 3rd + 7th just a year ago to a 1st rounder of value for an extra 40 regular season games + playoff games of term?
4.35 (81.5 cap) vs 2.875 (82.5 cap) is a pretty big difference. As with all goalies, value is highly dependent on the receiving team current goaltending situation.
TheImpatientPanther
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Fair enough, we shall see but it seems rich for EDM to unload two 1sts of value in one deal and it'd not be a piece that is more suited to the core age.
ChaoticOrange
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If a first gets Chiarot - and that’s an overpayment - on what planet does Allen cost Koskinen and Holloway
ChaoticOrange
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the prospect would need to be downgraded to a guy like Lavoie . Bourgault is also not available in this type of deal. (Also no on Broberg/Petrov/Savoie)
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HabsAddict
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So you want Allen for a gojng-nowhere player with 3 assists in the AHL. You give nothing you get nothing....
Counter with 1 1st or hang up..and move on.
ChaoticOrange
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I don’t want Allen at all. We’ve already got two goalies under contract for next year. I think a 1st for Chiarot is an overpayment and more than covers the bet. Asking for Holloway for Jake f***ing Allen is just idiotic.
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Oilers would he on crack for giving up a 1st and Holloway for 2 overrated veteran bums.
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Oilers fans better get ready for Habs high pressure used car salesmen selling a rust bucket sales tactics. You NEED to take this deal to win the SC!
This is offensive.
Edmonton gives: A back-up goalie who is UFA at the end of the year, a bluechip prospect and a 1st round pick
Edmonton gives: A back-up goalie who is UFA at the end of the year and a stay at home d-man who won't be re-signed next year.
Seriously, get real.
Edmonton gives: A back-up goalie who is UFA at the end of the year, a bluechip prospect and a 1st round pick
Edmonton gives: A back-up goalie who is UFA at the end of the year and a stay at home d-man who won't be re-signed next year.
Seriously, get real.
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I remember a time when Fleishmann and Weise returned us Danault who was a recent late 1st pick and a 2nd which became Romanov.
so i don’t think it is far fetched Habs receive 1st and good prospect for Allen and Chiarot considering we would take a cap dump and retain 50% on Chiarot.
That being said, the hard negociation point would be around the prospect. Holloway and Broberg are out of this equation off course. Bourgault probably also is but would surely be a prospect Gorton would target.
the other thing is I don’t know if Edmonton would be interested in any of Allen or Chiarot. I’m pretty sure Allen is better than Koskinen but I don’t know if the small upgrade worth it for Edmonton who should really target an solid/elite goalie to push them to the contenders group.
so i don’t think it is far fetched Habs receive 1st and good prospect for Allen and Chiarot considering we would take a cap dump and retain 50% on Chiarot.
That being said, the hard negociation point would be around the prospect. Holloway and Broberg are out of this equation off course. Bourgault probably also is but would surely be a prospect Gorton would target.
the other thing is I don’t know if Edmonton would be interested in any of Allen or Chiarot. I’m pretty sure Allen is better than Koskinen but I don’t know if the small upgrade worth it for Edmonton who should really target an solid/elite goalie to push them to the contenders group.
Habs Halifax
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Allen is solid as a fringe starter type but not much of an upgrade on Koskinen. And I don't think the Habs move Allen if they are rebuilding. Price will want out and we should retain Allen for the rebuild years to pair up with Primeau. Lets say we trade Allen this year and maybe Price later, then we try to sign someone like Allen in UFA. What is Allen's value? It's not horrible but hard to nail down. Someone might offer a 2nd and B prospect (maybe)
I don't see the Oilers in on this one
Habs Halifax
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I agree for the most part. I do think the Oilers are looking at Chiarot though. But not Allen. He's not a big upgrade on Koskinen.
Habs Halifax
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I don't think the Habs are after more smaller types at this stage. I don't hate Yamamoto but not the type of target for youth we are after. Habs will be after players not turned pro yet IMO.
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Take out Holloway and I still wouldn't do it.
Chiarot isn't worth a 1st and Allen is just as bad as Koski(with the added bonus of being stuck with him for another season).
Chiarot isn't worth a 1st and Allen is just as bad as Koski(with the added bonus of being stuck with him for another season).
Ben Chiarot
Jake Allen
Mikko Koskinen
Dylan Holloway
1st round pick
Allen has been good this year just the team has been a tire fire in front of him. He's often bombarded with shots. I believe Koskinen would help the tank more than Allen. Allen tends to keep the team afloat and hanging around games which the Habs don't need at this point. Allen would help shore up that crease. Give the Oilers some reliable and consistent goaltending.
Chiarot well he would bring what the Oilers want. A physical dman who can skate and get chippy. The guy is great in the playoffs and can play top minutes if in a bind.
Montreal just needs a goalie between the pipes right now who won't steal games for them or keep them in it like Allen. Also needing more skill up front which Holloway could add to that part of the future. Plus familiar with Caufield. The first well it's a first and will be nice to have multiple with the draft being in Montreal this year. Gorton is likely looking to make a homerun to start of his tenure with the team and start the rebuild day 1 from the draft.
That is one of the worst lopsided deals I've seen between Montreal and Edmonton. And that is saying something.
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