Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first

[John Mandalorian]

I would guess Monahan value a first plus good prospect. He's top center on market now with 7-8 bidders. He'll return full blown retail.

What’s the market?

 

[HuGort]

In what world is a rental 3rd liner worth a prospect like Perreault who since being drafted was second in points on the WJC team that won gold and leads ALL NCAA freshman in scoring (and 3rd overall). He should have never lasted to 23 to begin with and his value has only gone up since then.

And no Monahan is not worth Laf + a first either.

If it means a cup instead of going out early Monahan worth a fortune. Rangers have more holes now that Chyil gone for season and Lindholm traded. Sellers market now and Monahan top bird available .Stay Tuned, Monahan situation very interesting

 

[Petes2424]

Everyone knew pretty much what Lindholm was going to be traded for. They also had to take a cap dump to get the deal done. So he went for less than the expected return.

None of that changes what team’s will be willing to give up for Monahan.

One major issue people miss is, teams who give up prime assets, almost always do so, with the intention of extending the player acquired.

Teams just aren’t going to make a trade for Monahan with that in mind. Lindholm is getting a multi-year deal from the Canucks. At least that’s their intention.

That effects value. Big time.

 

[MTL Dirty Birdy]

That's 5.5m for a 39 goal scorer though.

I worked out a few trades tonight;

Winnipeg - Monahan, Barron

Montreal - Colby Barlow, 2024 2nd round pick (Montreal’s), 2024 3rd round pick.

If it’s Edmonton:

To Edmonton: Sean Monahan, David Savard (50 percent retained)

To Montreal: Dylan Holloway, reunite from Winconsin days. 2025 2 round pick, 2024 1st round pick

If it’s New York Rangers:

To New York: Sean Monohan

To Montreal: Gabe Perrault

For NY, I would suspect Kakko will be considered long before Perrault

Everyone knew pretty much what Lindholm was going to be traded for. They also had to take a cap dump to get the deal done. So he went for less than the expected return.

None of that changes what team’s will be willing to give up for Monahan.

One major issue people miss is, teams who give up prime assets, almost always do so, with the intention of extending the player acquired.

Teams just aren’t going to make a trade for Monahan with that in mind. Lindholm is getting a multi-year deal from the Canucks. At least that’s their intention.

That effects value. Big time.

That was a bigger haul than people were thinking. Also, the coaching change in Van affected Kuz obviously. But to refer to him as a cap dump after a 39 goal season? Cmon, that’s crazy

 

[Pucklington]

Change to Monahan likely 2nd forward dealt...

 

[Baksfamous112]

Everyone knew pretty much what Lindholm was going to be traded for. They also had to take a cap dump to get the deal done. So he went for less than the expected return.

None of that changes what team’s will be willing to give up for Monahan.

One major issue people miss is, teams who give up prime assets, almost always do so, with the intention of extending the player acquired.

Teams just aren’t going to make a trade for Monahan with that in mind. Lindholm is getting a multi-year deal from the Canucks. At least that’s their intention.

That effects value. Big time.

Give me a 27 years old on a down year who did 70 points last year making 5.5 for another year only as a cap dump on top of a first round pick for Monahan anyyy day of the week. Thank you

 

[John Mandalorian]

Give me a 27 years old on a down year who did 70 points last year making 5.5 for another year only as a cap dump on top of a first round pick for Monahan anyyy day of the week. Thank you

Doesn't this kind of suggest that fit is important?

 

[Baksfamous112]

Doesn't this kind of suggest that fit is important?

Of course it does but on a rebuilding team you have the luxury of giving the guy a real hard look and if it work out (see Monahan) you get another asset on top of what you already acquired and if it doesn’t work out, you ride it until the contract expires - Which is not an issue for a rebuilding team that doesn’t care about cap space and have plenty.

Kuzmenko is (probably) another Monahan in the making. Might fetch a first next year if he can produce at a decent rate. Excellent bet for the Flames imo. It’s a great way to maximize your potential return

 

[Conbon]

Having watched him for years, Monahan just isn't the guy you add for a playoff run. He's a great player when he's on but he just doesn't bring that winning element to put a team over the top. It would be better for Monahan's career and imo Montreal to re sign for a few years on a modest hit and let him to continue to play in a situation that allowed him to bounce back. Great character guy.

 

[HuGort]

I bet ya Habs get more for Monahan than Lindholm returned? Including Flames first we already have in '25 draft. That's a stacked draft and Flames pick likely lottery pick. Then we get a late first in this draft plus a throw in.

Lindholm returned Canucks first in '24 draft but that will be about 30th in a weak draft. Hunter good prospect but doubt worth a first. The 4th is a throw in. We get one in second Monahan trade also. So that's a wash.

 

[Baksfamous112]

I bet ya Habs get more for Monahan than Lindholm returned? Including Flames first we already have in '25 draft. That's a stacked draft and Flames pick likely lottery pick. Then we get a late first in this draft plus a throw in.

Lindholm returned Canucks first in '24 draft but that will be about 30th in a weak draft. Hunter good prospect but doubt worth a first. The 4th is a throw in. We get one in second Monahan trade also. So that's a wash.

Why even bother to say stuff like that. Everyone knows its not true. It’s so aggressive.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Of course it does but on a rebuilding team you have the luxury of giving the guy a real hard look and if it work out (see Monahan) you get another asset on top of what you already acquired and if it doesn’t work out, you ride it until the contract expires - Which is not an issue for a rebuilding team that doesn’t care about cap space and have plenty.

Kuzmenko is (probably) another Monahan in the making. Might fetch a first next year if he can produce at a decent rate. Excellent bet for the Flames imo. It’s a great way to maximize your potential return

Some guys also wilt in environments where there is an expectation of winning. Then some guys are the opposite. They're not made with the same cookie cutter.

 

[Danarqhy]

Even if you half the Lindholm return you're still looking at least at a 1st (or equivalent prospect) and maybe a small +. I still can't believe the Habs were paid a first just to take him and he was replaced by Kadri, who is arguably not better, and carries an infinitely higher cap hit. Crazy.

 

[Michoulicious]

I think it's fair to expect a late 1st first for Monahan given what Lindholm got, if he stays healthy of course.

People saying he's worth a 3rd are just ridiculous.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Even if you half the Lindholm return you're still looking at least at a 1st (or equivalent prospect) and maybe a small +. I still can't believe the Habs were paid a first just to take him and he was replaced by Kadri, who is arguably not better, and carries an infinitely higher cap hit. Crazy.

And the dumbass GM that did that now is the GM of my team (Leafs)

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Not a Rangers fan but this is beyond delusional.

Rangers owe us for the McDonnaugh for Gomez fiasco.

 

[Superlative Soup]

Some Habs fans expecting recently drafted 1st round prospects are gonna be disappointed. Perrault or McGroarty? Lmao

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Having watched him for years, Monahan just isn't the guy you add for a playoff run. He's a great player when he's on but he just doesn't bring that winning element to put a team over the top. It would be better for Monahan's career and imo Montreal to re sign for a few years on a modest hit and let him to continue to play in a situation that allowed him to bounce back. Great character guy.

He’s a solid depth player who offers secondary scoring and good faceoff numbers at a dirt cheap price. He’s exactly the kind of asset a playoff team would want to add.

Does that mean he gets a kings ransom? Absolutely not. His health issues prevent any team from being certain about his long term future. But even as a pure rental he’s a fantastic add.

I’d be surprised if he doesn’t land at least a first or solid prospect.

 

[dustybreaks]

I bet ya Habs get more for Monahan than Lindholm returned? Including Flames first we already have in '25 draft. That's a stacked draft and Flames pick likely lottery pick. Then we get a late first in this draft plus a throw in.

Lindholm returned Canucks first in '24 draft but that will be about 30th in a weak draft. Hunter good prospect but doubt worth a first. The 4th is a throw in. We get one in second Monahan trade also. So that's a wash.

I’ll take that bet and when he doesn’t you get permanently banned from HFBoards.

Deal?

 

[Junohockeyfan]

The 2 week break will reinvigorate Sean Monahan for a stretch rum to TDL. He should be well rested to pump up his value more.

Love how such a non play driving oft injured false C can potentially garner a good return! He already returned a 1st when the Habs took him. lol

 

[AslanRH]

Hopefully the Habs jump on this opportunity now. Monahan is probably in the top 3 on the available fwd list.
Once some of the fringe teams decide they are not making a run, or if the market is showing inflated returns, the floodgates of available players can open up. The closer the deadline comes, the larger the likely seller pool will get.

Previously, Monahan's cap hit returned a first, not the quality of the player. This time it might be the actual player who returns a 1st. Should be fun.

 

[Hunter368]

Why even bother to say stuff like that. Everyone knows its not true. It’s so aggressive.

In the end, we all see posters on the main boards/team boards with very high expectations to very low expectations on the Monahan return (or for that matter any TDL on any player on any team), in the end it will be some where in between. IMO I'm not so sure the Lindholm trade changes any return for Monahan, albeit its one less center available which helps all centers returns a bit. I've said for a long time Monahan return likely is around the 2nd to 2nd+ from someone, a late 1st isn't impossible depending how the center market shakes down and my opinion has changed yet. Assuming Monahan doesn't get hurt again of course.

 

[Moose Head]

Everyone knew pretty much what Lindholm was going to be traded for. They also had to take a cap dump to get the deal done. So he went for less than the expected return.

None of that changes what team’s will be willing to give up for Monahan.

One major issue people miss is, teams who give up prime assets, almost always do so, with the intention of extending the player acquired.

Teams just aren’t going to make a trade for Monahan with that in mind. Lindholm is getting a multi-year deal from the Canucks. At least that’s their intention.

That effects value. Big time.

You thing the Panthers were thinking of extending Chiarot when they dealt a 1st and prospect for him? Probably not, but habs got premium value because of supply/demand. The same type of opportunity is there with Monahan.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Some Habs fans expecting recently drafted 1st round prospects are gonna be disappointed. Perrault or McGroarty? Lmao

I mean the habs fans who are gonna be disappointed are the ones that think everybody on the team can get a first back so who cares about them.

Any decent return for Monahan is just gravy for us whether its a late first or a second pick and a body or some prospects.

Some are hoping for the moon I guess but they do this with every single player on the team.


That said I'm sure some dumb GM will bite! Fingers crossed

 

[John Mandalorian]

You thing the Panthers were thinking of extending Chiarot when they dealt a 1st and prospect for him? Probably not, but habs got premium value because of supply/demand. The same type of opportunity is there with Monahan.

Florida felt pressured to match Tampa who had been overpaying.