It's comical that Habs fans think because Lindholm went for a lot that Monahan will. My prediction is he goes for less than a pick in the top 50. No one needs a center you have to shelter in the playoffs.
Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first
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lionsDen
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His value is what it is, but I’ve maintained I don’t want no part of that player regardless of cost
A lot of #3
Poitras is better than Monahan right now and he's 19.
The Great Weal
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Well he absolutely isn't but of course the Bruins won't trade him for Monahan+
In terms of all around play he absolutely is. Monahan gives up almost 4 goals per 60 at 5 on 5 and scores 2.8 goals per 60 when he's on the ice. Poitras gives up 2 goals per 60 at 5 on 5 and scores 2.8 goals per 60 at 5 on 5. It's really not remotely close. Monahan is one of the highest GA per 60 in the NHL.
LesCanadiens
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These stupid "analytics" are so fn flawed, they're pretty much useless. Watch Monahan play for at least 10 games and then tell me how good or bad he is defensively or offensively. Sorry, true player analysis isn't dictated by computer programmers with nerd algorithms. IF it was, there would be zero pro scouts at games.
Eddie Munson
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No thanks. I don’t mind Monahan but he’s not better than Coyle or Zacha so giving up your 19 year old center for him to me doesn’t make sense.
That's not analytics. It's how many goals are scored with him on the ice. I've watched most of Monahan's career. Before his injuries he was a below average defensive player. After, he was downright bad. I'll always have a soft spot in my heart for him, but there's a reason we had to trade you a 1st to take him. Every NHL GM wanted more than that to take him.
NeverForget06
Here we go again !
Lindholm and Monahan are both bums who made a career out of being 2nd fiddle to jonny hockey !
LesCanadiens
Hardcore Curmudgeon
most of his career does not dictate how he's playing today, DD. Watch him now if you have a chance and then come back and tell us what you think. That data doesn't take into account a lot of pertinent factors, my friend. Like who his teammates are, what line he's on. What situations he's in. That was the gist of my comment. And again, if all that told the true story, teams would fire their pro scouts yesterday.
WatchfulElm
Former "Domi a favor"
There was actually 2 reasons : a bad contract and a nagging injury. Both are things of the past now.
Monahan is currently a very good player, and a healthy one on a cheap contract.
The stats of almost 4 goals against per game are from this season. Last season he was over 4 goals against per game. He was actually better defensively before.
LesCanadiens
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Shelter? Oh, right....lol. Ok, I missed this post until now. We're obviously talking delusion of the highest degree. Monahan has been playing with every scrap we have both in the NHL AND from AHL call-ups. And he's at nearly a PPG, killing penalties, and killing it in the faceoff circle. Yet HE needs sheltering????? Buwahahahahaha. And he's only going to fetch a late 2nd rounder???? BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA....thanks. I really did need a laugh.
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In every world even in the world where Poitras doesn't exist
He would get marginally more than a 3rd. Late 2nd is fair
LesCanadiens
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You flawed metrics mean diddly to me. I WATCH EVERY SINGLE GAME HE PLAYS. He's excellent defensively and offensively. MY god. If you don't watch the actual games, you're disarmed in this debate. Wave the white flag already. Done like dinner.
Insanity to the power of 10. Hope you don't hideout when you're proven wrong. I suspect you will. That's the norm for HFboards. All hat, no cow.
DavidpauseReinbacher
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I was about to say. What the actual f*** lol
Lollllll he's gonna get a first hahahahhaha. Okay .
Atoyot
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Scouts are paid to not have a biased eye and they still use analytics extensively.
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Your eyes are lying to you. He's not good defensively. It's why no one will trade a top 50 pick for him. Wait and see.
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Hunter368
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Some people need to chill, stop with the cheap shots, passive aggressive comments and just being smartazz …..the list of thread banned here is getting longer. Don’t care what team you cheer for, follow the rules and discuss the thread topic. If you want to talk about Monahan ok, if you want to come here to stir up crap you will be removed. Last warning
If you disagree with a persons point/value of a player, fine debate it, but follow the rules while doing it.
If you disagree with a persons point/value of a player, fine debate it, but follow the rules while doing it.
Fatass
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Yup. Monahan will be traded but the return will be not too much. I agree it’s either a high third or a low second. He’s just not a desirable guy.
Beendair Donedat
You sold a dead bird to a blind kid????
It’s hard to say what the market for Monahan will be, but you’d have to think that the cost has only gone up with the number one center off the board.
The big things that Monahan has going in his favour are:
1 - His cap hit is negligible, which will appeal to any contender. Nobody wants to mess with team chemistry by moving bodies to create cap space.
2 - He’s healthy (finally) and he’s producing. His injury history is well known and beaten to death by a few, but GM’s can look at him and see that he’s holding up and putting up points.
3 - There’s not much else left out there. With Lindholm off the board now, Monahan is the de facto best center left that’s known to be in play. Adam Henrique is another veteran that will likely be moved and will generate interest, but after that it’s pretty slim pickings.
Of course teams will be leery of his injury history and how he’s not a physical/shutdown center that will likely have to slot in on a third line, and those are genuine considerations. I don’t know what the return will be, but I suspect the cost has only gone up after tonight’s trade. Will be interesting to watch it all play out.
The big things that Monahan has going in his favour are:
1 - His cap hit is negligible, which will appeal to any contender. Nobody wants to mess with team chemistry by moving bodies to create cap space.
2 - He’s healthy (finally) and he’s producing. His injury history is well known and beaten to death by a few, but GM’s can look at him and see that he’s holding up and putting up points.
3 - There’s not much else left out there. With Lindholm off the board now, Monahan is the de facto best center left that’s known to be in play. Adam Henrique is another veteran that will likely be moved and will generate interest, but after that it’s pretty slim pickings.
Of course teams will be leery of his injury history and how he’s not a physical/shutdown center that will likely have to slot in on a third line, and those are genuine considerations. I don’t know what the return will be, but I suspect the cost has only gone up after tonight’s trade. Will be interesting to watch it all play out.
Question is if he is actually great great defensively and offensively or if this information is as accurate like one about him being almost PPG.
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