Don't want another year of Johansen at 4M$. So from the start i would say no. But if KH wants a stop gap at C for next year and takes on Johansen's contract, change the 4th round for Ritchie.
t's not coz you disagree that im pumping my player with the intent of dumping him. We are discussing value and I am bringing valid arguments that go beyond eye rolling and "tsk.. another pump and dump oh pleaseee". Derision to discredit arguments is a fallacy; gimme stats instead of condescension.
It's always hard to predict what a player will return at the deadline. I mean Kulak returned a 2nd round pick and Chiarot an unconditional 1st round pick that was one Pens victory against Chicago away to be a middle of first round pick. I know some guys will come in and say big dman etc but really those two guys are cannon fodder at best. It always depends on the market. How many buyers. How many sellers. But one thing is sure if i would be KH and the offers for Monahan would be a 2nd round pick alone i'd hang the phone immediately and would prefer losing him for nothing next summer. At one point you need to make a stand.
It's ok not to repeat the same bad take 50 times in a thread about a player that doesn't play for your team as well
I am not sure what point you are making here.. that he is good or bad at PK?
It does. But Monahan is a career 55 points guy. It's not like his production is abnormal. His career pace in regular season is 26 goals 58 points every 82 games. His career pace in playoffs is 27 goals 57 points every 82 games and his pace in the 2 years he spent with us has been 21 goals 58 points every 82 games.
I like it when people state value, post rationales (with stats especially) and comparables, and brag or own it accordingly when they are proven right or wrong.
im curious.. what do you mean by "mentally fit"? He seems to be solid to me, that way. Mtl media doesnt seem to phase him, at least
So he’s likely to return a second rounder and a b prospect from a good club providing Habs retain is what I’m seeing.
I don't know i'm not a Flames fan and i rarely watch their games. I have no clue what happened to him during the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 season. Did he play injured? Did he have troubles dealing with COVID. Was there a problem with the coach? His production those two seasons was way below his career production including playoffs career production. He can play wing it's not like hey we have too many centers he can't play top 6 he's been very effective on the wing for us when Dach was healthy. He's a great versatile option to have I wish Marc Bergevin would have acquired such a player when we had Prime Price/Subban/Pacioretty.
Imo without retention (or a layer round pick coming along) the return would be a third and B prospect from a good club. Monohan would be more of an insurance policy against an injury than a regular top six.
would have cost a hell of a lot more. I read that injuries were the reason. I forget which Calgary coach it was, but one was saying Monahan was captain material, that he actually chose to play injured. I mean, most players have injuries that they play through, but the sense i got was that Monahan took that to another degree, that it was all heart and putting the team first. Injuries were obvious to fans to the point that when he got traded, i didnt hear many people complain that the habs got a 1st to take him on.
Was playing with chronic pain and hampered mobility due to having bad hips both right and left. Had 2 hip surgeries in the few years before we acquired him. Take those terrible, unusual issues away, and Sean Monahan is and was a star center. Anyone saying different even from the CGY boards is full of crap. All one needs to do is read the threads on that board about him and you'd see how highly thought of he was. And so goes the same around the league. He's a blue-chip player who had some really horrible luck with hip injuries. He says that his hips are now 100% healed. And therefore he's playing at his real potential today. But he's "scraps" and has "big warts" according to some posters here. It's stand-up comedy at its finest.
Kent Hughes said as much in his latest press conference: once Lindholm is gone, suddenly offers will be more attractive and numerous, as GMs see Monahan as the next best option. Some might just not see a fit, but it's a big league, with a lot of teams who could use him in one role or another.
Leverage............Supply.............Demand...............
