Not worth a first hence why Boston is strongly interested. Probably a mid pick + decent prospect. That being said he would a welcomed addition to the Bruins.
Speculation: Monahan forward most likely dealt first
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samsagat
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The Habs have been using him in all situations. PP, PK, key done faceoffs. He's roughly 50/50 for ozone vs dzone starts.
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A 2nd and an ok prospect is the minimum, I guess.
And we've seen weirder things than a very late 1st being paid for that kind of guy in past TD too.
We'll see.
P.S.: a 2nd from a contending team is close to a 3rd rd pick. Statistically, such late picks doesn't fetch a lot of NHL players.
About what? 20-25 % of the picks?
And we're talking NHL players here, not star players...
HuGort
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He's worth more to Habs than that. But we have to trade him where he wants to go
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I have one of those available.
It has a chance of blowing the motor in the next few weeks, but that has only happened once a year or so. Otherwise, there isn't a better looking vehicle you will find in your price range.
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He has been Mtl's swiss army knife all year. A bit over 18 Min of ice time again. Averaging 3:26 on PP and a bit over a min on PK. He is on Mtl's 1st PPay unit. On the PK he is out there for a lot of the D zone faceoffs and will swap out if mtl clears the puck. By far their best FO guy. Has 2 SH goals I think.
Given all the injuries in Mtl his 5-5 wingers have varied. Its a mixed bag of has been's, might be's and never will be's. Played a lot with Gallagher and Pearson early. Anderson after that. Recently he has been with the kids a lot either Ylonen or Roy and Armia. Far from premium wingers. The one thing that can be said is that after Dach went down to injury, whatever line Monahan has been on has been the 2nd best after Suzuki/Caulfield.
I think he makes a great add to any team with playoff aspirations. He can play either special team, great on Face-offs. good at centre or on the wing Not a guy who will complain if he is on 3rd line or with marginal wingers. Can step in on top 2 lines if you have a significant injury. Makes everyone he plays with better.
After watching Jets Sens game on the weekend with Jets missing scheilfle, I think he would be a great fit with the jets to shore up their centre position and be a great insurance policy for injury.
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As I stated before, I think Monahan is going to be someone's B or C plan for a 2C and/or someone's A or B plan for a 3C or middle six winger depth. As far as the Jets go, all reports are they want someone better then Monahan as their 2C. If they land that high level 2C, they won't be spending assets Monahan to fill the role as a depth winger. Jets needs/wants are high level 2C and top 4 RHD upgrades, Monahan doesn't fill either role so I don't see any Jets fit barring all other options don't work out and Monahan becomes the Jets "plan C" target for 2C (possible, but doubtful) assuming he comes comparatively cheaply.
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There's a lot of talk of "depth winger" to belittle his value, yet he'd be the 4th highest scoring forward on Winnipeg's current roster, and that's without getting any kind of quality linemates in Montreal...
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Belittling his value? Why would anyone of a fictional board do that? Makes no sense to say that, we have no effect on any outcome. I didn't even comment on his actual value, I only talked about the Jets reported needs are and what Monahan would fill on the Jets team based on knowing the team and listening to actual insiders reports on the Jets wants.
As stated, Jets by all reports are aiming higher then Monahan at 2C and a top 4RHD. Monahan doesn't fill any of those needs and your comments don't either.
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Agreed. I think the Habs are looking for a team that is looking to use him as a 2C, or possibly a second line winger because that return price could be higher. I just don't see a lot of contenders who don't likely have those spots filled (and that's why they're contenders) with better players.
For the Jets (when everyone is healthy), he isn't a top 6 winger by miles. At 2C, Namestnikov has played well there and has chemistry (and has 20 ESP to Monahans 16 so it's not a point production issue).
For the Jets he could fill a RW role on the 3rd line and replace Appleton (but Appleton has 20 ESP himself and brings speed to his game). He's not replacing Lowry as the 3C.
He would be good depth, and another centre would not be a bad thing for sure. For the Jets IMO they would look at him as "depth" and the Habs want a team to look at him as a need most likely.
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Agreed
Jets could use him as a depth pick up (as I stated), but as I stated above someone will want him for a higher role on their team and Habs will get a better return from them not the Jets bc his reduced role on the Jets.
I think he can, you just have to give him a chance that he isn't getting in Montreal
No one is giving a first for Monahan.
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I know reading is hard. But the title of the thread refers to Monahan getting traded first. As in, before most others.
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Every year someone makes a statement like this and then has to eat crow.
Hunter368
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I wouldn't say that with any certainty, GM's do some crazy things at the TDL and in July with FA's.
50 point, two-way centre, good at face offs, can fill in at wing. Great glue guy, responsible, excellent in the bumper position on the PP.
Oh and his contract is dirt cheap. He’s definitely worth a first
Oh and his contract is dirt cheap. He’s definitely worth a first
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That was a very impressive "deep dive"
Yep you just have to hope your GM isn't the dumb one.
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As stated Monahan gets away with a lot more on a rebuilding team then he would with a contender (Jets or otherwise), playing offense with little expectations on playing good D obviously would help anyone's offensive numbers (playoffs is even far tougher then reg season). Being played on a rebuilding teams #1PP isn't something he would get on any contender team likely so again hurts his output offensively (at the very least his PP1 time would be going way down). Counter to that will be he's playing with better line mates, likely is true if he plays a top 6 role but not necessarily true if he's playing a contenders 3rd line.
Monahan is a lesser option/cheaper option compared to some better options being discussed so I'll give you that, but if a team truly wants to contend and put their best foot forward Monahan isn't the guy you go after, he's the guy you settle on when everyone else is gone or unavailable. Can't imagine any Habs fans would even disagree on that point or at least would acknowledge that's likely a fair point.
From a Jets POV, my hope would be as per the rumors is the Jets are aiming higher then Monahan and I hope they get their guy. Plus maybe add a top 4RHD
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What the hell is Seravalli smoking? You gotta understand that he wears a Habs jersey thus anything over a 4th round pick is an overpay.
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